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(C|Net)   Comcast wants to put a cool cheap camera in your living room. What? You didn't really think you were going to cut the cord and slip away from them that easily, did you?   (cnet.com) divider line
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1007 clicks; posted to Business » on 19 Oct 2021 at 2:16 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-10-19 1:48:46 PM  
fark no.
 
2021-10-19 2:20:14 PM  
You know, if you turn off your TV, it kinda looks like a black mirror.

Hey there's a TV show called Black Mirror!

Wait....
 
2021-10-19 2:20:17 PM  
Cuck Fomcast.
 
2021-10-19 2:21:13 PM  
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2021-10-19 2:23:10 PM  
God I can't imagine how much this thing would scream at you if it wasn't connected to the internet.
 
2021-10-19 2:23:36 PM  
Who do they think they are! Amazon? Google?

The NERVE!
 
2021-10-19 2:29:31 PM  
It gets better.  You know that WiFi router they give you?  The WiFi radio can actually see your movement.  It can identify different members of your household and it can see when you're home and moving around.  This will be used as a part of a security offering or for aging in place.

They might even reduce the price if you'll agree to let it identify you and your habits and sell that information to 3rd parties.  You say "I'd never do that" and I believe you, but millions of people let Facebook and Google do that in exchange for a free service.
 
2021-10-19 2:29:32 PM  
All smart devices collect data if connect to the internet. If you HAVE to get a smart TV, make sure get one that can be set to floor model mode.
 
2021-10-19 2:29:51 PM  
I bought a 55" Smart HD TV a couple of years ago. I have never connected it to the internet.
 
2021-10-19 2:37:54 PM  
Smith! W!
 
2021-10-19 2:48:56 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It gets better.  You know that WiFi router they give you?  The WiFi radio can actually see your movement.  It can identify different members of your household and it can see when you're home and moving around.  This will be used as a part of a security offering or for aging in place.

They might even reduce the price if you'll agree to let it identify you and your habits and sell that information to 3rd parties.  You say "I'd never do that" and I believe you, but millions of people let Facebook and Google do that in exchange for a free service.


It gets even better than that. You know that WiFi router they give you? They also carve out part of the bandwidth you're paying for and assign it to a separate, publicly accessible hotspot so randos can "use their Xfinity services anywhere". Now your neighbors don't need to use a cantenna anymore to leech your WiFi and torrent "Backdoor Sluts 16" from a totally legit Russian site.
 
2021-10-19 2:49:18 PM  
Hisense is crap, I own one.  Only reason I use it is because I won it in a lottery drawing.  Picture quality is ok, on occasion it locks up and I have to unplug it from the wall to get it going again
 
2021-10-19 2:49:52 PM  
Oh, and Comcast can EABOD...
 
2021-10-19 2:56:15 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It gets better.  You know that WiFi router they give you?  The WiFi radio can actually see your movement.  It can identify different members of your household and it can see when you're home and moving around.  This will be used as a part of a security offering or for aging in place.

They might even reduce the price if you'll agree to let it identify you and your habits and sell that information to 3rd parties.  You say "I'd never do that" and I believe you, but millions of people let Facebook and Google do that in exchange for a free service.


That the vast majority of humanity are gibbering chimp brains, is the 2nd harsh truth of reality there is to have to face, right after your own mortality.
This is merely one specific example of that bigger reality of the dumb.
 
2021-10-19 2:58:47 PM  

Dick Gozinya: Rapmaster2000: It gets better.  You know that WiFi router they give you?  The WiFi radio can actually see your movement.  It can identify different members of your household and it can see when you're home and moving around.  This will be used as a part of a security offering or for aging in place.

They might even reduce the price if you'll agree to let it identify you and your habits and sell that information to 3rd parties.  You say "I'd never do that" and I believe you, but millions of people let Facebook and Google do that in exchange for a free service.

It gets even better than that. You know that WiFi router they give you? They also carve out part of the bandwidth you're paying for and assign it to a separate, publicly accessible hotspot so randos can "use their Xfinity services anywhere". Now your neighbors don't need to use a cantenna anymore to leech your WiFi and torrent "Backdoor Sluts 16" from a totally legit Russian site.


Oh, I know.  I worked on the project 10 years ago.  I know exactly how it works.

You can opt out, but that means you can't use those hotspots everywhere else.

Technically they're not carving out part of the bandwidth.  It's unused bandwidth in both the WiFi radio and the DOCSIS upstream/downstream.
 
2021-10-19 3:03:12 PM  
Gee, I wonder where this is headed. Use our TV and get a discount on your cable service. Meanwhile, enjoy these coupons for Ben & Jerry's. How did we know you gorge while binge-watching TV? Lucky guess.
 
2021-10-19 3:09:11 PM  
yeah - that's a hard, hard pass there.

plus those cheap Hisense TV's are junk. one of my weird hobbies is fixing LCD TV's. most brand name TV's are fairly easy to take apart and work on, and when those do stop working, 90 percent of the time it's the backlights that go bad. Samsung's are notorious for this - the LED's on the backlight strip burn out and if enough of them do that, there's a voltage drop and it stops working.  If one or two LED's burn out the set will usually keep working but eventually it's going to fail.

but Hisense TV's are built so cheaply that there's no tolerance if anything goes wrong. if one LED burns out - the entire set shuts down. A friend bought one of those TV's as a Black Friday special and it already stopped working so he asked if I could look at it.  I got the LCD screen and diffuser panels off, but there's a reflective sheet over the backlights. most TV's this sheet is held down by a few plastic clips and will lift right out, but Hisense glues and tapes them down to the back of the casing.  took about an hour peeling it out just to get this off without ripping it, and when I checked the backlight strips - there was only one LED that was out. I think it was wired in series, and if one light goes out they all stop working like old fashioned Christmas lights. I got the hot air gun out, melted the LED off the strip, soldered a new one on there and everything started working again. getting the reflective sheet back on however was just as bad as taking it off - just had to use a ton of double-sided tape under it.  maybe some of these other TV's are made a little better, but that one was just junk

/also - if you want your TV to last longer, never run the brightness at 100 percent. turn it down to about 80 to keep the backlights alive longer
 
2021-10-19 3:09:32 PM  

SpaceMonkey-66: Hisense is crap, I own one.  Only reason I use it is because I won it in a lottery drawing.  Picture quality is ok, on occasion it locks up and I have to unplug it from the wall to get it going again


Isn't Hisense a ChiCom company?
 
2021-10-19 3:11:52 PM  
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2021-10-19 3:13:51 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: All smart devices collect data if connect to the internet. If you HAVE to get a smart TV, make sure get one that can be set to floor model mode.


Or just don't connect it to Wifi / router. Smart TV apps are generally slower, get updated less frequently, and often lose support more than apps on a roku / firestick / apple tv, so I wouldn't recommend using them anyway.

Also lol at the people who thought cutting the cord would disconnect them from likely one of their 2-3 options as an ISP.
 
2021-10-19 3:14:47 PM  

BeotchPudding: I bought a 55" Smart HD TV a couple of years ago. I have never connected it to the internet.


My Samsung TV required I set up a connection before it would work, which I couldn't do because PiHole throw all the DNS traffic into the garbage.  Disabled for 15 minutes, made my account, and it hasn't been able to call home since.

The TiVo/Roku/Chromecast on the other hand....
 
2021-10-19 3:21:05 PM  

vonster: SpaceMonkey-66: Hisense is crap, I own one.  Only reason I use it is because I won it in a lottery drawing.  Picture quality is ok, on occasion it locks up and I have to unplug it from the wall to get it going again

Isn't Hisense a ChiCom company?


Probably, never bothered to look.  I won mine at a retirement party where the lottery was for the dude retiring.  Was ten bucks well spent, been three years and my old plasma was failing.  And it's 55 inch.
 
2021-10-19 3:26:06 PM  
I just have a Roku and block *.logs.roku.com with my pihole. It tries to call home every 30 seconds even when it isn't being used.
 
2021-10-19 3:56:12 PM  

standardeviation: God I can't imagine how much this thing would scream at you if it wasn't connected to the internet.


It's a smart TV.

w/o internet it doesn't really have a purpose.
 
2021-10-19 4:10:50 PM  

GardenWeasel: standardeviation: God I can't imagine how much this thing would scream at you if it wasn't connected to the internet.

It's a smart TV.

w/o internet it doesn't really have a purpose.


If it's got video inputs you can still use it as a normal TV.

/Good luck getting a "dumb" TV with a mid to high end panel these days.  It's hard to find even a low end screen without "smarts" built in.  You have to go real bargain basement or cludge something together with an old PC monitor.
//CSB - First "TV" at my last apartment was an old 24" HP monitor with HDMI inputs and speakers.
 
2021-10-19 4:12:15 PM  

Rapmaster2000: You can opt out, but that means you can't use those hotspots everywhere else.


I'm pretty sure using my own modem with separate router instead of renting the Comcast modem/wifi combo has me opted out of offering a hotspot too.
 
2021-10-19 4:24:13 PM  

freakdiablo: GardenWeasel: standardeviation: God I can't imagine how much this thing would scream at you if it wasn't connected to the internet.

It's a smart TV.

w/o internet it doesn't really have a purpose.

If it's got video inputs you can still use it as a normal TV.

/Good luck getting a "dumb" TV with a mid to high end panel these days.  It's hard to find even a low end screen without "smarts" built in.  You have to go real bargain basement or cludge something together with an old PC monitor.
//CSB - First "TV" at my last apartment was an old 24" HP monitor with HDMI inputs and speakers.


Yeah, kind of limited to 24" - 43" "bedroom class" 1080p options
 
2021-10-19 4:59:28 PM  
I have a nice Sony TV with android TV built in. Yeah, Sony has a history of evil and Google is there too but it is still better than Samsung or LG or the others. The YouTube app works well and shares a history with the app on my phone.
 
2021-10-19 5:20:31 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It gets better.  You know that WiFi router they give you?  The WiFi radio can actually see your movement.  It can identify different members of your household and it can see when you're home and moving around.  This will be used as a part of a security offering or for aging in place.

They might even reduce the price if you'll agree to let it identify you and your habits and sell that information to 3rd parties.  You say "I'd never do that" and I believe you, but millions of people let Facebook and Google do that in exchange for a free service.


No, it cannot.
 
2021-10-19 5:53:42 PM  
The price of the Roku is well worth it to know that my TV isn't spying on me every chance that it gets.  Yeah, Roku sends data back too but  way less now that I have a Pi Hole set up.
 
2021-10-19 11:27:13 PM  
I have seen the quality of Comcast technology.  It goes to xfinity and beyond
 
2021-10-20 1:57:26 PM  

enry: BeotchPudding: I bought a 55" Smart HD TV a couple of years ago. I have never connected it to the internet.

My Samsung TV required I set up a connection before it would work, which I couldn't do because PiHole throw all the DNS traffic into the garbage.  Disabled for 15 minutes, made my account, and it hasn't been able to call home since.

The TiVo/Roku/Chromecast on the other hand....


Interesting because my TV is a Samsung and I was never required to connect it directly to the internet.
 
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