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(Politico)   "'Brown recovery' wipes out hopes that pandemic stimulus would drive climate spending" - really could've used 'Enterprise' in headline, butt a solid 4 out of 5 - wonder what his fark handle is   (politico.com) divider line
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2021-10-19 7:25:50 PM  
But the dumbest kids from h.s. who never paid attention in class keep insisting that there's no climate emergency. Also they have big trucks, wraparound mirrored sunglasses, and backwards fitted caps. How am I to ignore that kind of driver expertise along with such excellent attire?
 
2021-10-19 8:59:20 PM  
So much for a green note
 
2021-10-19 9:01:23 PM  
Just couldn't wipe things clean?
 
2021-10-19 9:05:26 PM  
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2021-10-19 9:08:18 PM  
In fact, much of the stimulus spending was directed toward a "brown" recovery that pumped money into polluting industries and energy sources like coal, oil and natural gas.

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2021-10-19 9:17:14 PM  

BMFPitt: In fact, much of the stimulus spending was directed toward a "brown" recovery that pumped money into polluting industries and energy sources like coal, oil and natural gas.

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Can't confirm "much" or "half" or anything like that, but...

https://www.latimes.com/california/st​o​ry/2021-10-18/oil-company-orange-count​y-spill-received-millions-federal-reli​ef
 
2021-10-19 9:27:09 PM  

Trocadero: Can't confirm "much" or "half" or anything like that, but...

https://www.latimes.com/california/sto​ry/2021-10-18/oil-company-orange-count​y-spill-received-millions-federal-reli​ef


But what?  If the argument was, "This program that was available to every company in America didn't explicitly exclude industries we don't like" then I wouldn't have asked for a citation.  But instead they made a clownshoes statement.
 
2021-10-19 9:34:25 PM  
Think I had that after recovering from a blood poisoning.

My poop looked just like guacamole for a good week
 
2021-10-19 9:40:21 PM  
Brown recovery is what I call the 3 days of 'roids after I eat a big steak.
 
2021-10-19 9:42:45 PM  
"The world missed an opportunity to have a green recovery," said Obama climate official Alice Hill. "We hoped it would. But it didn't."

So, the idea was 'never let a crisis go to waste', but those pesky pharma companies developed vaccines too quickly, the economy is not in a shambles now, and voters aren't idiots with their eyes glazed over, so they cant understand the non-logic and cult-like devotion to using any excuse to tossing hundreds of billions of dollars at renewable energy, when the technology is steadily improving on its own.

This sort of stupid idea, based on telling lies to the public, is just another albatross you can carry into  November 2022, Democrats.
 
2021-10-19 9:47:48 PM  

Animatronik: "The world missed an opportunity to have a green recovery," said Obama climate official Alice Hill. "We hoped it would. But it didn't."

So, the idea was 'never let a crisis go to waste', but those pesky pharma companies developed vaccines too quickly, the economy is not in a shambles now, and voters aren't idiots with their eyes glazed over, so they cant understand the non-logic and cult-like devotion to using any excuse to tossing hundreds of billions of dollars at renewable energy, when the technology is steadily improving on its own.

This sort of stupid idea, based on telling lies to the public, is just another albatross you can carry into  November 2022, Democrats.


Of course, that we permit right wingers to taint humanity with their plague ratting and general corruption is the real albatross around Americas neck.

Right wingers: dead farking weight
 
2021-10-19 9:50:34 PM  
republicans will see this as "See? Giving money to the not-rich is a bad idea! We should give them nothing but a boot to their necks from now on and let only the Rich Masters touch any money."
 
2021-10-19 9:53:38 PM  
That gave me a migraine.
 
2021-10-19 10:05:54 PM  
Nobody from the Obama administration has any room to talk. They pushed fracking like a junkie trying to tie down a source of the "good shiat".

As for the "brown recovery", last I looked the average person has no say short of going off grid, and going off grid is not cheap (unless you go off grid hippy style). The government is still controlled by fossil fuel interests. The utilities make more money by having existing plants run than building new renewables, and can pass any costs onto their customers.

You want a green recovery? Industry ain't gonna lead the way. They might get there eventually.So you need government programs like the ones that built the dams here in Eastern Washington or the Tennessee Valley Authority or what have you.
 
2021-10-19 10:32:28 PM  

Animatronik: "The world missed an opportunity to have a green recovery," said Obama climate official Alice Hill. "We hoped it would. But it didn't."

So, the idea was 'never let a crisis go to waste', but those pesky pharma companies developed vaccines too quickly, the economy is not in a shambles now, and voters aren't idiots with their eyes glazed over, so they cant understand the non-logic and cult-like devotion to using any excuse to tossing hundreds of billions of dollars at renewable energy, when the technology is steadily improving on its own.

This sort of stupid idea, based on telling lies to the public, is just another albatross you can carry into  November 2022, Democrats.


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2021-10-19 11:27:19 PM  
"'Brown recovery' wipes out hopes that pandemic stimulus would drive climate spending" - really could've used 'Enterprise' in headline, butt a solid 4 out of 5 - wonder what his fark handle is

This headline made me get tested for early onset dementia.
 
2021-10-19 11:34:11 PM  
huh huh huh, you said taint
 
2021-10-19 11:51:07 PM  

adamatari: Nobody from the Obama administration has any room to talk. They pushed fracking like a junkie trying to tie down a source of the "good shiat".

As for the "brown recovery", last I looked the average person has no say short of going off grid, and going off grid is not cheap (unless you go off grid hippy style). The government is still controlled by fossil fuel interests. The utilities make more money by having existing plants run than building new renewables, and can pass any costs onto their customers.

You want a green recovery? Industry ain't gonna lead the way. They might get there eventually.So you need government programs like the ones that built the dams here in Eastern Washington or the Tennessee Valley Authority or what have you.


This is probably what it is going to come down to, with all obvious corollaries.

The US might be screwed because government will probably screw it up. The rest of the OECD will have government being proactive just to keep their economies from collapsing while they try to wean themselves off of fossil fuels. China and command economies, or command capitalism, or whatever people will call it, will more or less force industry to use less fossil fuels and figure out how to adapt, while keeping Nimbyism to a dull roar and stealing and developing technologies where necessary.

And then what?

What to do? The only way to beat the clock will be to build far more renewables than we need. We know how to do that. It is cheap. It scales. Just do what we know how to do as fast as we can. Even the cost is not that bad compared to the alternative... destruction and chaos.

We can*t just force people to change their consumerist ways. We can't force industries to lose money. We can't even do a more or less egalitarian carbon tax. What we have to do is hitch green initiatives to the engine of industry and a taxing and spending government and create the equivalent of a transcontinental highway system for everyone to use and profit from.
 
2021-10-20 12:08:38 AM  
How do you manage a "green new deal?" Where did it fail?

Well. It became a laundry list without a champion first of all. Whose heart was in it? Who staked their political capital on it? Not Biden, or Pelosi, or Schumer... and so you have the big champions being the AOCs and Buttigeigs and Yangs, who are not heavyweights.

Industry champions? Ford and GM are anemic, distracted, co-opted. Texla is also fat and distracted. It has been to the trough so many times that it certainly is not going to risk anything, and why give everyone else all the milk it has been suckling? What does it gain by creating more rivals? I don't even think they are so much in favor of more chargers nationwide. Let everyone build their own networks, right Texla?

Environmentalists? Also fat and co-opted. After Michael Moore went after eco-capitalists, they are also aware of their vulnerability to public scrutiny of subsidies.

Manchin and Sinema just pretty well drove in the coffin nails. West Virginia coal and Arizona anti-solarism came together to gum things up just enough to get people wondering if a trillion to spend against climate change is over-doing things.

And indirectly, failure to prosecute the Jan 6 insurrectionists. If that had been done expeditiously and decisively, there would be plenty of political capital to move ahead.

Is that it? Nah. Let's put a big crown on apathy and distraction. International pressure on the US has waned. People are making more money on bitcoin and Texla stock to invest in risky alternative energy projects. Third world countries are taking what they can get after the Trump years. Greta is silent. Various countries have bit off far more they can chew, China, Germany, Japan, and even the UK and Australia.

The world has come a long way since the Kyoto accords. China, Germany, the US, Australia, and almost all of Europe, took two steps forward, now they and others will take a step back. Progress will be spotty at best for the next couple of years.
 
2021-10-20 7:42:18 AM  

trappedspirit: "'Brown recovery' wipes out hopes that pandemic stimulus would drive climate spending" - really could've used 'Enterprise' in headline, butt a solid 4 out of 5 - wonder what his fark handle is

This headline made me get tested for early onset dementia.


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