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(NPR)   Do you think of Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 as amazing, must-see spectacles that "ground viewers in the realm of human emotion"? No? Well, I've got some bad news for you about Denis Villeneuve's Dune. And the length of this review of it   (npr.org) divider line
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2021-10-18 9:14:02 AM  
Arrival was great. Blade Runner 2049 was, at best, not bad.

They were both directed pretty well, though.
 
2021-10-18 9:36:24 AM  
Everything I've seen so far about Dune make me excited to see it.  I just hate we're going to have to wait for part 2
 
2021-10-18 9:46:00 AM  

nmrsnr: Arrival was great. Blade Runner 2049 was, at best, not bad.

They were both directed pretty well, though.


I loved BR2049 and Arrival.  I am actually going to an IMAX theater to see Dune - first movie in a theater in 2 years.

I have my seat reserved..at the time I was the only  reservation.  I hope it stays that way.
 
2021-10-18 10:13:51 AM  
Yes subby, that is what makes those movies great.
 
2021-10-18 10:17:32 AM  
Subby, I'm sorry that Jackass and Ow My Balls are more to your taste.
 
2021-10-18 10:20:58 AM  
As long as it doesn't make me cry as much as Arrival did, I'm good.
 
2021-10-18 10:22:58 AM  

plecos: nmrsnr: Arrival was great. Blade Runner 2049 was, at best, not bad.

They were both directed pretty well, though.

I loved BR2049 and Arrival.  I am actually going to an IMAX theater to see Dune - first movie in a theater in 2 years.

I have my seat reserved..at the time I was the only  reservation.  I hope it stays that way.


I'm gonna be that guy behind you sneaking in pungent Indian food and rolling empty beer bottles down the aisle. Hold on, I have to take this call...
 
2021-10-18 10:26:54 AM  
Please don't suck
Please don't suck
Please don't suck

/please make part two
//please make part two
///please make part two
 
2021-10-18 10:31:31 AM  
I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.
 
2021-10-18 10:35:47 AM  

OldRod: Everything I've seen so far about Dune make me excited to see it.  I just hate we're going to have to wait for part 2


I love Dune, but I think I'mma wait until the sequel is out before watching them together.
 
2021-10-18 10:37:57 AM  

Subtonic: plecos: nmrsnr: Arrival was great. Blade Runner 2049 was, at best, not bad.

They were both directed pretty well, though.

I loved BR2049 and Arrival.  I am actually going to an IMAX theater to see Dune - first movie in a theater in 2 years.

I have my seat reserved..at the time I was the only  reservation.  I hope it stays that way.

I'm gonna be that guy behind you sneaking in pungent Indian food and rolling empty beer bottles down the aisle. Hold on, I have to take this call...


Wait, Indian Food and beer?  Can you get the seat two to the right of me?
 
2021-10-18 10:39:18 AM  
Dune has a tough needle to thread here. On the one hand, there's dense source material that will be difficult to make complete enough for true fans, yet still light enough to make sense to the casual moviegoer (think of someone who didn't read Lord of the Rings yet still immensely enjoyed the films). On the other, he's only made half a story which will be unsatisfying to everyone, particularly with so much length. And with the conclusion anything but a foregone conclusion in Hollywood, we may never get a satisfying story. Will that keep people away? Will the buzz of it just ending halfway through keep people away? Will the density of the lore keep people away? Who knows?

The only thing that's sure is that this movie has to make a shiat-ton of money for there to be any hope of a second/conclusion. That, my friends, would be one hell of a feat given that it's been ham-strung right out of the gate. This is why Peter Jackson made all three movies simultaneously--the studio had to commit and commit big or else it wasn't going to happen.

If past Hollywood accounting and decision-making is any indicator, I suspect Dune will be immensely dissatisfying for all. I want to be wrong and I'm very much looking forward to it, but man, that's a tough path to walk.
 
2021-10-18 10:39:31 AM  
Spoiler alert: The worms are the spice, the spice is the worms.

Suck it.
 
2021-10-18 10:42:16 AM  
I really like the new Blade Runner. Jared Leto chewed scenery with comic book villainy, but the rest of the movie was subdued and felt like a natural fit to the myths.

I read the novel sequel that was released years ago. It wasn't great. I was moved by the poignant deterioration of JS Sebastian.
 
2021-10-18 10:51:42 AM  
IDGAF about its reviews, I'm seeing that motherf*cking film in a motherf*cking theater.
 
2021-10-18 10:52:37 AM  

JerkStore: If past Hollywood accounting and decision-making is any indicator, I suspect Dune will be immensely dissatisfying for all. I want to be wrong and I'm very much looking forward to it, but man, that's a tough path to walk.


I honestly don't know how you can do a "faithful" adaptation and have people be happy with it. And I mean that not just for Dune, but for pretty much any beloved work of literature.

I think it's best to just say "inspired by" and do your own thing with it. Lynch's Dune was so gonzo weird it has a special place in my heart, and Hitchhiker's Guide morphed with each telling, be it book or radio or movie. And I think that's right. Pick the version you like best, but don't compare them as adaptations, but as variations on a theme. Otherwise any necessary omission or change becomes a betrayal, rather than a reimagining.
 
2021-10-18 11:03:15 AM  
I haven't seen "2049," but I loved "Arrival."  This is just making me more eager to see "Dune."
 
2021-10-18 11:03:27 AM  
Somewhere in one of the many boxes of books, I have a first edition, first print hard cover copy. Must have read it three or four times (slow learner). The previous movie didn't match the images in my head much at all. The trailers thus far also disappoint.

Imagination: Do it work how so, yes?
 
2021-10-18 11:03:30 AM  

DecemberNitro: IDGAF about its reviews, I'm seeing that motherf*cking film in a motherf*cking theater.


*another empty rolls down the aisle noisily*
 
2021-10-18 11:09:36 AM  
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2021-10-18 11:10:33 AM  
haven't seen Arrival, Loved Blade Runner 2049 and will be seeing Dune because I farking well want to
 
2021-10-18 11:12:51 AM  

JerkStore: The only thing that's sure is that this movie has to make a shiat-ton of money for there to be any hope of a second/conclusion. That, my friends, would be one hell of a feat given that it's been ham-strung right out of the gate. This is why Peter Jackson made all three movies simultaneously--the studio had to commit and commit big or else it wasn't going to happen.


And credit to New Line for betting big on "Lord of the Rings."  The way Peter Jackson tells the story, he was pitching a 2 movie adaptation because he didn't think anyone would finance 3, and New Line was smart enough to ask him about the feasibility of doing 3 movies once they realized all the material that would need to be covered.  I wish more production companies would have learned from that.  If you're going to adapt a widely beloved door-stopper of a novel, don't half-ass it, the smarter bet is to go all in on it.
 
2021-10-18 11:16:40 AM  
It was great. Looking forward to part 2
 
2021-10-18 11:16:54 AM  

JerkStore: The only thing that's sure is that this movie has to make a shiat-ton of money for there to be any hope of a second/conclusion. That, my friends, would be one hell of a feat given that it's been ham-strung right out of the gate. This is why Peter Jackson made all three movies simultaneously--the studio had to commit and commit big or else it wasn't going to happen.


I thought I saw that the 2nd half script is already done and shooting had started?  Or maybe that was the 2nd season of Wheel of Time, not sure...
 
2021-10-18 11:17:16 AM  
Dune plus points: impressive visuals with great music. Most plot beats seem to fit with what I remember from the books (not to sure about Paul's dreams of Arakkis).

Dune minus points: for people who have been trained in great self control, there is an awful lot of sniveling and whining on screen. The combat style has also been gutted. They say the whole thing about the slow blade piercing the shield, but at the same time when you see people fighting it looks more like "the red shield is vulnerable" rather than blades going any kind of slow. A great example of this is when Paul needs to fight one if the fremen. Rather than his fighting style being weird because he is used to fighting shielded people (no reason to go slow against the fremen), they say it is because he has never killed anyone (again, weird that this affects someone trained in absolute self control) so they don't have to deal with the nature of fast paced combat being affected by shields. They also use a suspicious amount of energy beams when shooting at shielded people.

The little killer drones used for stealthy assassination also make a suspicious amount of noise.
 
2021-10-18 11:20:19 AM  
Huge Blade Runner fan.

I liked Blade Runner 2049

...it was just too long

I also liked the three short in-between films

Soundtrack was good

Hope someday we get the original pre-Zimmer soundtrack

Zimmer is overexposed
 
2021-10-18 11:24:39 AM  
I am not now nor have I ever been optimistic about this upcoming movie
 
2021-10-18 11:26:58 AM  

zepillin: I am not now nor have I ever been optimistic about this upcoming movie


k.
 
2021-10-18 11:30:20 AM  

lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.


Edgy.
 
2021-10-18 11:30:49 AM  
2049 was a beautiful but slow movie.

Seen about the first hour of Dune so far: it's beautifully shot and so far has been clear enough that I think people who haven't read the books can get by.

I'm not sure if Dune the story has aged particularly well or not, but so far it's faithful to it.
 
2021-10-18 11:31:09 AM  

nmrsnr: I honestly don't know how you can do a "faithful" adaptation and have people be happy with it. And I mean that not just for Dune, but for pretty much any beloved work of literature.


They did a pretty good job, it's reasonably faithful to the source material.  They didn't play up the Baron being a predatory homosexual pedophile, but that was always a bit cringey anyway.  Also they made liet-kynes a black woman to troll the maga trash so that was fun.
 
2021-10-18 11:31:58 AM  

NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.

Edgy.


Nothing edgier than piracy, that's for sure.   But seriously, fark him for his pompous "You must go into a theater during a pandemic to appreciate my brillance" auteur bullshiat.
 
2021-10-18 11:33:13 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: 2049 was a beautiful but slow movie.

Seen about the first hour of Dune so far: it's beautifully shot and so far has been clear enough that I think people who haven't read the books can get by.

I'm not sure if Dune the story has aged particularly well or not, but so far it's faithful to it.


It is a timeless white savior orientalist tale with drugs, whats not to like.
 
2021-10-18 11:33:34 AM  

lilplatinum: NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.

Edgy.

Nothing edgier than piracy, that's for sure.   But seriously, fark him for his pompous "You must go into a theater during a pandemic to appreciate my brillance" auteur bullshiat.


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2021-10-18 11:39:39 AM  

Polish Hussar: JerkStore: The only thing that's sure is that this movie has to make a shiat-ton of money for there to be any hope of a second/conclusion. That, my friends, would be one hell of a feat given that it's been ham-strung right out of the gate. This is why Peter Jackson made all three movies simultaneously--the studio had to commit and commit big or else it wasn't going to happen.

And credit to New Line for betting big on "Lord of the Rings."  The way Peter Jackson tells the story, he was pitching a 2 movie adaptation because he didn't think anyone would finance 3, and New Line was smart enough to ask him about the feasibility of doing 3 movies once they realized all the material that would need to be covered.  I wish more production companies would have learned from that.  If you're going to adapt a widely beloved door-stopper of a novel, don't half-ass it, the smarter bet is to go all in on it.


There's a lot of whining about the Jackson LOTR but it absolutely was an achievement that SHOULD have changed everything.
Because 99% of the problem with book series being adapted is "well all the actors aged out because we negotiated and created each movie individually and also when the first one was a success half the cast asked for more money and an important one died on us, so fark it, what's Uwe Boll up to anyway?"
 
2021-10-18 11:40:32 AM  

lilplatinum: NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.

Edgy.

Nothing edgier than piracy, that's for sure.   But seriously, fark him for his pompous "You must go into a theater during a pandemic to appreciate my brillance" auteur bullshiat.


HBO Max isn't a theater, and it's legal.
 
2021-10-18 11:42:48 AM  

NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.

Edgy.

Nothing edgier than piracy, that's for sure.   But seriously, fark him for his pompous "You must go into a theater during a pandemic to appreciate my brillance" auteur bullshiat.

HBO Max isn't a theater, and it's legal.


Denis was whining about people watching it on HBO Max too.
 
2021-10-18 11:45:43 AM  
"Timothée Chalamet, who spends much of the first hour or so of the film brooding Byronically in long frock coats on windswept promontories overlooking the sea"

That's when the committee voted NO on this dissertation.
 
2021-10-18 12:12:58 PM  

plecos: nmrsnr: Arrival was great. Blade Runner 2049 was, at best, not bad.

They were both directed pretty well, though.

I loved BR2049 and Arrival.


Yep. Two of the best modern SF films out there, both thoughtful, beautifully shot, well-acted, and full of big questions (as good SF should be).

I'm not a big Dune fan, but I'll be seeing this simply because he directed it.
 
2021-10-18 12:15:40 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: OldRod: Everything I've seen so far about Dune make me excited to see it.  I just hate we're going to have to wait for part 2

I love Dune, but I think I'mma wait until the sequel is out before watching them together.


I figure if Part 2 doesn't happen, there's no point in seeing Part 1.
 
2021-10-18 12:18:01 PM  
Ha, spice opera
 
2021-10-18 12:20:13 PM  
Well subby, that's pretty much what Dune should be.

Did love Arrival, but couldn't stand Blade Runner 2049 - never even bothered making it to the end.
 
2021-10-18 12:21:20 PM  
Does it have an epic sand-storm-inducing fart joke?
A missed opportunity if it doesn't.
 
2021-10-18 12:22:08 PM  

JerkStore: Dune has a tough needle to thread here. On the one hand, there's dense source material that will be difficult to make complete enough for true fans, yet still light enough to make sense to the casual moviegoer (think of someone who didn't read Lord of the Rings yet still immensely enjoyed the films). On the other, he's only made half a story which will be unsatisfying to everyone, particularly with so much length. And with the conclusion anything but a foregone conclusion in Hollywood, we may never get a satisfying story. Will that keep people away? Will the buzz of it just ending halfway through keep people away? Will the density of the lore keep people away? Who knows?

The only thing that's sure is that this movie has to make a shiat-ton of money for there to be any hope of a second/conclusion. That, my friends, would be one hell of a feat given that it's been ham-strung right out of the gate. This is why Peter Jackson made all three movies simultaneously--the studio had to commit and commit big or else it wasn't going to happen.

If past Hollywood accounting and decision-making is any indicator, I suspect Dune will be immensely dissatisfying for all. I want to be wrong and I'm very much looking forward to it, but man, that's a tough path to walk.


The fact that it was only partially greenlit show that Hollywood producers suck. Even in two parts, it should have been filmed like Lord of the Rings, where all three movies were shot simultaneously.
 
2021-10-18 12:26:16 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: 2049 was a beautiful but slow movie.

Seen about the first hour of Dune so far: it's beautifully shot and so far has been clear enough that I think people who haven't read the books can get by.

I'm not sure if Dune the story has aged particularly well or not, but so far it's faithful to it.


As long as people destroy the environment for profit, and people commit murder for their leaders, Dune will be relevant.
 
2021-10-18 12:30:52 PM  

BafflerMeal: lilplatinum: NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.

Edgy.

Nothing edgier than piracy, that's for sure.   But seriously, fark him for his pompous "You must go into a theater during a pandemic to appreciate my brillance" auteur bullshiat.

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2021-10-18 12:41:05 PM  
Didn't like The Arrival that much and Blade Runner 2049 dragged.

Too much of The Arrival was the gimmick of showing scenes out of chronological order. It is fun to mislead the audience a bit, but there need to be more than that. Without it the movie was weak which is why additional viewings are disappointing.

I actually liked Lynch's Dune. The final directors cut really fixes everything except the 'reimagining' of the Weirding Way into a sonic weapon. I don't hate what Lynch did. It was an easy way to make the Fremen more formidable that audiences understood. It also let them delete existence of Lasguns and how they interact with shields. The Chani romance is pretty lame in the book, so cutting it down to almost nothing was a smart thing for Lynch to do. The Paul/Chani romance is really all that important and Denis' movie seems to be all about it (despite Chani hardly being in the movie at all).
 
2021-10-18 12:45:09 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: BafflerMeal: lilplatinum: NuclearPenguins: lilplatinum: I watched the torrent (fark you Denis), it was good.

Edgy.

Nothing edgier than piracy, that's for sure.   But seriously, fark him for his pompous "You must go into a theater during a pandemic to appreciate my brillance" auteur bullshiat.

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*does not apply to Ben Shapiro and his Wife's vagina.
 
2021-10-18 12:46:07 PM  
My beef on modern movies is they tend to tell too little story while spending too much "idle time" just soaking in the world.
Like they do not how to put both world building and story/character plot advancement on the screen at the same time.
So modern films feel like they suffer from a lot start/stop. Where the story is going, until suddenly the story has stopped being progressed, and we're just going to spend some time panning the camera around the cgi world to fill screen time for a while.

A 2 hour flick should have had more time on the specific story it existed to tell, and i find many modern films can easily go from 2-3 hours down to 1.5-2, without losing anything except run time.
The idea of "letting a scene breath" is now more like the idea of "how long can we stretch this out?"

I think a lot of great films can only exist if we allow for longer run times, while a lot of great films cease to be if we do not actually make the attempt to keep our run times as short as possible(tight efficient story telling).


And in some cases like this, i find the very medium of the art, is intrinsic to what ti is.
We may be able to  make great ___ genre film "inspired by ____" book.
But in plenty of cases, the very nature of the what makes the story what it is, is in the medium it was created in in the first place. And when we attempt to "translate" it to another medium, there may be some aspects of what we expecrince i the reading of it, that there will be no 1:1 translation to the screen to get.
Some things you either get the original medium version of, or you never really understand what that thing really is.

like masturbation and sex.
If you only ever done one, you really do not understand the other.
 
2021-10-18 12:46:10 PM  

madgonad: The Chani romance is pretty lame in the book, so cutting it down to almost nothing was a smart thing for Lynch to do. The Paul/Chani romance is really all that important and Denis' movie seems to be all about it (despite Chani hardly being in the movie at all).


I mean it is kinda relevant if you go through Dune Messiah which Denis ideally wanted to do.
 
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