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2021-10-17 7:09:16 PM  
Supernatural won the CW tournament. At least there's some sense in the world.

Mods....if the Formatting button is preferable and are going to replace the HTML button, why isn't it the default? Just sayin'.
 
2021-10-17 7:42:33 PM  
Readers chose 32 shows to send into a bracket tournament, and Smallville beat One Tree Hill to get into the Final Four-
Thank God.


Now, now, now, while I do 100% agree, One Tree Hill did provide one of the greatest moments in network TV drama history:

Dog ate Dan's new heart
Youtube WzPDEirVTZk
 
2021-10-17 8:31:29 PM  
I watched Smallville because someone suggested it. It was fun, but having to keep Clark's secret for years stretched credibility far more than x-ray vision or bending steel bars. IRL after about three weeks Lana should have either said "Look Clark, you obviously have superpowers" or "Leave me alone you weirdo".

And one episode had Clark and a girl with superpowers and Clarke thought she could be The One, someone he could spend the rest of his life with and be himself. But he didn't trust her and his lack of faith ended up with her getting murdered by the baddie. Clark found her body hanging in his barn.

And the next episode opened with him excited about going to college and getting a football scholarship.

WTF? She was never mentioned again.

And Kristin Kreuk was the hot one:

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2021-10-17 9:20:42 PM  

Mugato: Supernatural won the CW tournament. At least there's some sense in the world.

Mods....if the Formatting button is preferable and are going to replace the HTML button, why isn't it the default? Just sayin'.


You'd have more luck with that using Feedback/Farkback.
 
2021-10-17 9:24:43 PM  

lindalouwho: You'd have more luck with that using Feedback/Farkback.


Using what now?

/new here
 
2021-10-17 10:17:55 PM  

Mugato: lindalouwho: You'd have more luck with that using Feedback/Farkback.

Using what now?

/new here


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2021-10-17 10:58:21 PM  
I guess questions about his crazy cultist co-star (accidental alliteration, y'all) were off limits.
 
2021-10-17 11:00:28 PM  

Mugato: Supernatural won the CW tournament. At least there's some sense in the world.


Supernatural had the talent to keep it at least entertaining well past its logical end date - the chemistry between the leads, the world building it had done and the various co-stars elevated some otherwise sub-part storytelling.
 
2021-10-17 11:11:09 PM  

Snapper Carr: Mugato: Supernatural won the CW tournament. At least there's some sense in the world.

Supernatural had the talent to keep it at least entertaining well past its logical end date - the chemistry between the leads, the world building it had done and the various co-stars elevated some otherwise sub-part storytelling.


Exactly. Even when the whole thing went really off the rails in the Jack-era (seasons 13-15) it was still pretty decent. Jared and Jensen are f*cking hilarious together.

/The gag reels are the best
 
2021-10-17 11:18:07 PM  
I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.
 
2021-10-17 11:31:30 PM  
Given the number of times Lana got knocked unconscious on Smallville, she'd have to be showing signs of CTE by this point.
 
2021-10-17 11:37:28 PM  

JolobinSmokin: I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.


I don't appreciate it, because it sucked. It was a bullshiat teen drama, bad acting, bad writing, too low budget, and was terrible tv. I could see a 12 episode mini series on Superman's upbringing, but that crap went on for years. The mere premise of who was all introduced, like Luther suddenly being there in Smallville was a perfect example of pandering through nonsense writing. I think of you looked at it without your nostalgia glasses, your understand why we all hated it.

The arrowverse is another dark spot on DCs terrible live action track record.
 
2021-10-17 11:39:26 PM  

Snapper Carr: I guess questions about his crazy cultist co-star (accidental alliteration, y'all) were off limits.


Just as well.
 
2021-10-17 11:49:02 PM  
Thankfully he never ended up in a cult.
 
2021-10-17 11:52:26 PM  

somedude210: Even when the whole thing went really off the rails in the Jack-era (seasons 13-15)


Yeah, I didn't really like Jack at all but even when it was bad it was a better show than anything else on at the time.
 
2021-10-18 12:02:17 AM  

Mugato: somedude210: Even when the whole thing went really off the rails in the Jack-era (seasons 13-15)

Yeah, I didn't really like Jack at all but even when it was bad it was a better show than anything else on at the time.


Yeah, the Jack-era was the pits. I mean, it was still "Supernatural", and so it was still watchable, but it was obvious they had *finally* run out of gas.

The show really suffered from the "increasing stakes" problem that also screws up comic-books. For, like, the last 5 seasons of the show (at least), they were regularly fighting and *defeating* gods. Where do you go from there? They obviously didn't know, and just kinda spun their wheels for a while. It worked, because the lead actors were all so charming.
 
2021-10-18 12:51:48 AM  

Snapper Carr: I guess questions about his crazy cultist co-star (accidental alliteration, y'all) were off limits.


Michael Rosenbaum has covered that topic very well on his podcast.
 
2021-10-18 12:57:54 AM  
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2021-10-18 6:05:20 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Readers chose 32 shows to send into a bracket tournament, and Smallville beat One Tree Hill to get into the Final Four-
Thank God.

Now, now, now, while I do 100% agree, One Tree Hill did provide one of the greatest moments in network TV drama history:

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Directed by Crazy Joe Davola!
 
2021-10-18 7:42:35 AM  

Quantumbunny: JolobinSmokin: I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.

I don't appreciate it, because it sucked. It was a bullshiat teen drama, bad acting, bad writing, too low budget, and was terrible tv. I could see a 12 episode mini series on Superman's upbringing, but that crap went on for years. The mere premise of who was all introduced, like Luther suddenly being there in Smallville was a perfect example of pandering through nonsense writing. I think of you looked at it without your nostalgia glasses, your understand why we all hated it.

The arrowverse is another dark spot on DCs terrible live action track record.


I know. And the pandering for fans by having the Joker in The Dark Knight? Yawn. Gimme some generic Italian gangsters with no decernable characteristics. DC really needs to up their game if they want to impress REAL fans.
 
2021-10-18 7:53:42 AM  

Quantumbunny: JolobinSmokin: I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.

I don't appreciate it, because it sucked. It was a bullshiat teen drama, bad acting, bad writing, too low budget, and was terrible tv. I could see a 12 episode mini series on Superman's upbringing, but that crap went on for years. The mere premise of who was all introduced, like Luther suddenly being there in Smallville was a perfect example of pandering through nonsense writing. I think of you looked at it without your nostalgia glasses, your understand why we all hated it.

The arrowverse is another dark spot on DCs terrible live action track record.


Lex being from Smallville as well was established in the comics back in like the 60's. Granted it was kind of stupidly coincidental even back then, but the CW didn't just pull that out of their ass. And the show did a great job of fitting a man like Lex Luthor into a small farm town and having it make sense.

That actually is one reason I loved the show despite the constant teen melodrama. I'm a huge Superman fan and could tell the writers were too. They knew the lore well enough to change it and break the rules while still acknowledging it, as opposed to just working off cliff notes and doing whatever the fark they wanted to like most writers would. There were a lot of deep cut references to obscure Superman lore throughout that show that they adapted to fit into their own universe.

Really the only thing holding Smallville back from being my favorite live action Superman property is that they drug out the "no flights no tights" ethos well past the point in made any sense. I mean they had Superboy and Supergirl running around even though Superman didn't exist yet, and Clark even starts wearing what are basically costumes in the last few seasons while refusing to use the actual name or put on a more recognizable costume. It got silly. But I hear that was mostly Tom Wellings doing.
 
2021-10-18 8:09:38 AM  

Quantumbunny: JolobinSmokin: I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.

I don't appreciate it, because it sucked. It was a bullshiat teen drama, bad acting, bad writing, too low budget, and was terrible tv. I could see a 12 episode mini series on Superman's upbringing, but that crap went on for years. The mere premise of who was all introduced, like Luther suddenly being there in Smallville was a perfect example of pandering through nonsense writing. I think of you looked at it without your nostalgia glasses, your understand why we all hated it.

The arrowverse is another dark spot on DCs terrible live action track record.


Oh so edgy.

Look, just because you hated it doesn't mean your friends secretly hated it too. Nor does it mean that fellow Farkers hated it or hate the Arrowverse. It just means that you didn't have taste back then either.

Arrowverse Superman is the best Superman with the exception of Christopher Reeves.  Let's just shorten the list by saying that the Arrowverse crossovers have made for a much better JLA than anything Snyder did. All the characters are better.  Sure they have some moments that are as badly written as "Martha!" but not too many for the hundreds of hours of screentime they cover.
 
2021-10-18 8:26:05 AM  
Speaking of Welling as Clark and Lex being from Smallville.  This is from the Crisis crossover.


DCTV Crisis on Infinite Earths Crossover - Smallville's Clark Kent (HD) Tom Welling Scenes
Youtube MPDt_yUZuIY



Rosenbaum was a bit of a dick about the crossover. When the studio was contacting all the past DC universe actors they were asking if they wanted to do a cameo appearance. Rosenbaum demanded to know how much it would pay. They told him they didn't even have the parts written yet, it was just an idea to find out who might be willing to do it.  Rosenbaum answered "No, unless you tell me how much you are paying and make it worth my while."
 
2021-10-18 8:34:28 AM  
This is all the crossover bits including the one just above.  But it includes Knox from the Keaton Batman movies. Hawk and Robin from the Titans tv series, and Robin the boy wonder from the old Batman series, Brandon Routh as Superman, A couple Birds of Prey (the series) members.  All that plus Kevin freaking Conroy as Bruce Wayne.

Crisis on Infinite Earths: All cameos/references
Youtube TeHeqja87MY
 
2021-10-18 9:18:45 AM  
I'd argue the only Arrowverse show (that I've watched regularly) that is dragging the shared universe down is The Flash.  You can tell they're really reaching for storylines now, and I actually hope that Season 8 is the last one.

Haven't watched Legends, so no idea if they're still good or bad or otherwise.
 
2021-10-18 9:46:20 AM  

Noah_Tall: Quantumbunny: JolobinSmokin: I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.

I don't appreciate it, because it sucked. It was a bullshiat teen drama, bad acting, bad writing, too low budget, and was terrible tv. I could see a 12 episode mini series on Superman's upbringing, but that crap went on for years. The mere premise of who was all introduced, like Luther suddenly being there in Smallville was a perfect example of pandering through nonsense writing. I think of you looked at it without your nostalgia glasses, your understand why we all hated it.

The arrowverse is another dark spot on DCs terrible live action track record.

Oh so edgy.

Look, just because you hated it doesn't mean your friends secretly hated it too. Nor does it mean that fellow Farkers hated it or hate the Arrowverse. It just means that you didn't have taste back then either.

Arrowverse Superman is the best Superman with the exception of Christopher Reeves.  Let's just shorten the list by saying that the Arrowverse crossovers have made for a much better JLA than anything Snyder did. All the characters are better.  Sure they have some moments that are as badly written as "Martha!" but not too many for the hundreds of hours of screentime they cover.


Reeve, but Reeves.
 
2021-10-18 9:47:09 AM  

mjbok: Noah_Tall: Quantumbunny: JolobinSmokin: I liked this show. I remember a young Dean Winchester playing a football coach on the smallville's and mini Justice League at the very end.

At the time there wasn't much in superherodum on television.  I remember the 90's Flash and not much else. Old Batman reruns, that terrible Superboy Tv show from the early 90's, although I watched it too.

It was a good place holder for what we have now and people don't appreciate that.

I don't appreciate it, because it sucked. It was a bullshiat teen drama, bad acting, bad writing, too low budget, and was terrible tv. I could see a 12 episode mini series on Superman's upbringing, but that crap went on for years. The mere premise of who was all introduced, like Luther suddenly being there in Smallville was a perfect example of pandering through nonsense writing. I think of you looked at it without your nostalgia glasses, your understand why we all hated it.

The arrowverse is another dark spot on DCs terrible live action track record.

Oh so edgy.

Look, just because you hated it doesn't mean your friends secretly hated it too. Nor does it mean that fellow Farkers hated it or hate the Arrowverse. It just means that you didn't have taste back then either.

Arrowverse Superman is the best Superman with the exception of Christopher Reeves.  Let's just shorten the list by saying that the Arrowverse crossovers have made for a much better JLA than anything Snyder did. All the characters are better.  Sure they have some moments that are as badly written as "Martha!" but not too many for the hundreds of hours of screentime they cover.

Reeve, but Reeves.


Not, not but...
 
2021-10-18 11:00:36 AM  
Good to see the unapologetically masculine Supernaturaleasily won the tournament. Smallvilleis still a much better show than the current Arrowverse crap they have been putting out.
 
2021-10-18 11:34:36 AM  

Unknown Subject: Good to see the unapologetically masculine Supernaturaleasily won the tournament. Smallvilleis still a much better show than the current Arrowverse crap they have been putting out.


But Smallville indirectly led to branding of women and borderline sexual slavery
 
2021-10-18 12:39:09 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: I watched Smallville because someone suggested it. It was fun, but having to keep Clark's secret for years stretched credibility far more than x-ray vision or bending steel bars. IRL after about three weeks Lana should have either said "Look Clark, you obviously have superpowers" or "Leave me alone you weirdo".

And one episode had Clark and a girl with superpowers and Clarke thought she could be The One, someone he could spend the rest of his life with and be himself. But he didn't trust her and his lack of faith ended up with her getting murdered by the baddie. Clark found her body hanging in his barn.

And the next episode opened with him excited about going to college and getting a football scholarship.

WTF? She was never mentioned again.

And Kristin Kreuk was the hot one:

[Fark user image image 600x450]


Please.

i.pinimg.comView Full Size


In a show with Erica Durance, who by the way is the best version of Lois Lane to grace any screen ever, you think Kruek is "the hot one?"
 
2021-10-18 12:41:48 PM  

Boudyro: Carter Pewterschmidt: I watched Smallville because someone suggested it. It was fun, but having to keep Clark's secret for years stretched credibility far more than x-ray vision or bending steel bars. IRL after about three weeks Lana should have either said "Look Clark, you obviously have superpowers" or "Leave me alone you weirdo".

And one episode had Clark and a girl with superpowers and Clarke thought she could be The One, someone he could spend the rest of his life with and be himself. But he didn't trust her and his lack of faith ended up with her getting murdered by the baddie. Clark found her body hanging in his barn.

And the next episode opened with him excited about going to college and getting a football scholarship.

WTF? She was never mentioned again.

And Kristin Kreuk was the hot one:

[Fark user image image 600x450]

Please.

[i.pinimg.com image 850x566]

In a show with Erica Durance, who by the way is the best version of Lois Lane to grace any screen ever


No.
 
2021-10-18 12:47:38 PM  

Boudyro: In a show with Erica Durance, who by the way is the best version of Lois Lane to grace any screen ever, you think Kruek is "the hot one?"


"Excuse me?"

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-10-18 12:53:25 PM  
here's an idea stories about young superman in smallville

And we'll have all the same people in ti he knows latter in lfie as an adult.
Lex Luthor and all that.

So right off the start we're hit with the amazing amount of, not being creative up front when we could make up whole new charters involved in this whole other era of sup's life.

And to top it all of we'll prove we know we made this show, specifically for not so bright people.


here's young lex luthor, but no worrris, we made sure he's as blad as adult lex so you won't be confused, dumb ass.
 
2021-10-18 1:08:09 PM  

Boudyro: Carter Pewterschmidt: I watched Smallville because someone suggested it. It was fun, but having to keep Clark's secret for years stretched credibility far more than x-ray vision or bending steel bars. IRL after about three weeks Lana should have either said "Look Clark, you obviously have superpowers" or "Leave me alone you weirdo".

And one episode had Clark and a girl with superpowers and Clarke thought she could be The One, someone he could spend the rest of his life with and be himself. But he didn't trust her and his lack of faith ended up with her getting murdered by the baddie. Clark found her body hanging in his barn.

And the next episode opened with him excited about going to college and getting a football scholarship.

WTF? She was never mentioned again.

And Kristin Kreuk was the hot one:

[Fark user image image 600x450]

Please.

[i.pinimg.com image 850x566]

In a show with Erica Durance, who by the way is the best version of Lois Lane to grace any screen ever, you think Kruek is "the hot one?"


Yes.

Don't get me wrong, I'd do Erica.

But I'd be thinking of Kristin....

/Also probably down to characters, where Lois was clearly written to be a a bit of an unguided missile.
 
2021-10-18 5:15:08 PM  
Somewhat relevant.

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2021-10-19 12:06:16 AM  

Noah_Tall: Speaking of Welling as Clark and Lex being from Smallville.  This is from the Crisis crossover.


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/MPDt_yUZ​uIY]


Rosenbaum was a bit of a dick about the crossover. When the studio was contacting all the past DC universe actors they were asking if they wanted to do a cameo appearance. Rosenbaum demanded to know how much it would pay. They told him they didn't even have the parts written yet, it was just an idea to find out who might be willing to do it.  Rosenbaum answered "No, unless you tell me how much you are paying and make it worth my while."


Well maybe he's being a bit of a dick because TPTB were a bit of a dick to him during his Smallville days. it's not a big secret that both Rosenbaum and Welling are, at best, ambivalent about their time on Smallville. And I read somewhere that Welling would only agree to do the Crisis crossover segment if it showed that Clark Kent had given up his powers.

Tom Welling just did not ever want to be Superman.
 
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