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(Wikipedia)   Happy 87th birthday to Bill Anders who was one of the first three men to see the Far Side of the Moon. He will be forever known for taking the "Earthrise" photo of a small blue marble rising over the lunar surface. Spiffy: He is still alive   (en.wikipedia.org) divider line
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2021-10-17 1:24:10 PM  
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2021-10-17 1:35:16 PM  
ooh

(turns out the lights)
 
2021-10-17 2:19:47 PM  
"We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders
 
2021-10-17 2:20:57 PM  
Oh
So hes the one who faked that photo!!

😄
 
2021-10-17 2:21:29 PM  
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2021-10-17 2:22:19 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders


You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that
 
2021-10-17 2:23:17 PM  

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2021-10-17 2:24:16 PM  
Well, the entity currently identified as Bill Anders is still active. It remains to be seen what the status is of the Bill Anders who went to the dark side of the moon.
 
2021-10-17 2:26:02 PM  
Extra spiffy:  His crewmates are also alive. Apollo 8 and 9 are the only of the 15  crewed Apollo missions for which this is true. (I counted Skylab and the ASTP as Apollo missions)
 
2021-10-17 2:30:28 PM  
Also:  "First to the Moon" (2019) is well worth the buying or renting on Amazon
 
2021-10-17 2:41:36 PM  

Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that


As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.
 
2021-10-17 2:59:51 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that

As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.


They also know that it will take a shiat ton of tax money and some ballsey glory seekers to do it.


Nothing on mars.  Some science, sure, but will u be the sucker to die for science??

Robots can do it for a tenth of the cost but that wont give attention whore nations the rush to blow their horns with.

We went to the moon to beat the russians not for science.

Then again its always more fun to waste public money than private
 
2021-10-17 3:00:50 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that

As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.


Youre welcome
 
2021-10-17 3:05:28 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Also:  "First to the Moon" (2019) is well worth the buying or renting on Amazon


First to kick soviet union ass during the cold war
 
2021-10-17 3:13:13 PM  
He's also well known for returning share holder value at General Dynamics before cashing out by selling Fort Worth to Lockheed in 1993.
 
2021-10-17 3:13:26 PM  

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2021-10-17 3:16:58 PM  
MFW you look at the wiki page of an Apollo era astronaut and see that he's not dead.

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2021-10-17 3:42:25 PM  

Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that

As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.

Youre welcome


You lied. It is as simple as that.  What you say the Mars people think and what they really think are as different as night and day.

The reason that I don't think Mars colonization will work is they don't have viable exports to Earth. They will need money or it won't work for long? If they had a viable way to make a profit, Mars could be a dozen times the Hellhole that it is and it would not stop the effort.
 
2021-10-17 3:45:39 PM  
Earthrise - Mannheim Steamroller
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2021-10-17 4:04:11 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that

As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.

Youre welcome

You lied. It is as simple as that.  What you say the Mars people think and what they really think are as different as night and day.

The reason that I don't think Mars colonization will work is they don't have viable exports to Earth. They will need money or it won't work for long? If they had a viable way to make a profit, Mars could be a dozen times the Hellhole that it is and it would not stop the effort.


My issue is costs.  There are more than enough problems on earth to focus on.

Mars can wait until we get things semi settled on earth.

Im not against science or exploration. I am against misallocation of public money for private stock owner gain
 
2021-10-17 4:04:28 PM  
Anders stated that the Earthrise photograph "really undercut my religious beliefs. The idea that things rotate around the pope and up there is a big supercomputer wondering whether Billy was a good boy yesterday? It doesn't make any sense. I became a big buddy of Richard Dawkins."
 
2021-10-17 4:06:32 PM  

scanman61: Anders stated that the Earthrise photograph "really undercut my religious beliefs. The idea that things rotate around the pope and up there is a big supercomputer wondering whether Billy was a good boy yesterday? It doesn't make any sense. I became a big buddy of Richard Dawkins."


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2021-10-17 4:55:19 PM  
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2021-10-17 6:00:37 PM  
I still don't understand his "cow tools" comic :/
 
2021-10-17 7:05:23 PM  

Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that

As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.

Youre welcome

You lied. It is as simple as that.  What you say the Mars people think and what they really think are as different as night and day.

The reason that I don't think Mars colonization will work is they don't have viable exports to Earth. They will need money or it won't work for long? If they had a viable way to make a profit, Mars could be a dozen times the Hellhole that it is and it would not stop the effort.

My issue is costs.  There are more than enough problems on earth to focus on.


Wow. There will always be enough problems on Earth. Space exploration will not prevent a single dollar from being spent on those problems. In fact, that space exploration is good for the economy will mean there will be more tax dollars to spend on those problems, not to mention new technology to use, and better scientific understanding.

Mars can wait until we get things semi settled on earth.

That will never happen. There will always be problems.

Im not against science or exploration.

It is pretty clear that you are against space exploration or at least anything involving humans. You certainly are using the decades old talking points of space exploration opponents.

I am against misallocation of public money for private stock owner gain

So am I.  What does have have to do with anything space? Oh yes. You are misrepresenting your opponents again.

I'd be shocked if you even knew the name of a Mars colonization advocate not named Musk so lets look at him. He is into the libertarian Kool aid. He just wants to do it even without government help. He imagines that SpaceX can give loans to people to get them there which I think is fantastical. He is in favor of fark the government, lets just go. Everything he has done with SpaceX has been to facilitate Mars colonization.  He is directly responsible for space companies getting vastly less money from the government. You see, any desire to send loads of people to Mars will require vastly cheaper access to space.  The American rocket companies had not done squat to make rockets cheaper for decades as with their cost-plus contracts it would just cost them money. That someone with only a few hundred million bucks of his own money and at best token help resulted in the cheapest, most reliable way to space is telling.  For a typical SpaceX launch for the DoD, they launch for a quarter of cost.  Part of the reason his competition still gets contracts is a government desire to keep them in business.  "New space" who Elon is the poster child for has the idea that companies should bid x dollars for a space project and get paid on delivery and/or accomplishing pre-specified criteria. Boeing will have to pay a few hundred million of their own money to fix the problems and redo the test of their Starliner because they farked it up the first time. It was not that long ago when the would have been paid all expenses plus a profit margin for the redo. Meanwhile SpaceX won the lunar lander contract by bidding under its actual expected costs. This possible because  SpaceX was going to build starships even without the government.  So far the government money that SpaceX has gotten is overwhelmingly for doing what they promised to do. Someone recently added up all the government payments to SpaceX. It was ten billion less than what the government would have spent to have someone else to launch the payloads. This did not count extra taxes for returning most of the world's commercial launches from foreign entities to America. Nor does it count that the competition has been forced to charge the government less when they get a contract.  If you like the government having more money to spend then you should adore Elon Musk. His habit of saying asinine things is a small price for the good he has done. Don't want the government to pay for an attempted Mars colony attempt? You are in luck. He is going to try anyways. I think it will not obtain self sufficiency, but if SpaceX wants to spend its billions, I won't cry over the side effect of vastly cheaper access to space which we do need for those who will remain living on Earth.
 
2021-10-17 8:18:25 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: Linux_Yes: TheMysteriousStranger: "We came all this way to explore the Moon, and the most important thing is that we discovered the Earth.". -- Bill Anders

You discovered how great living on earth is compared to space.

The mars fetish fans have yet to learn that

As someone who doubts that Mars colonization will work, I will say you are pulling a "fact" out of your ass. Every significant figure in the movement to colonize Mars knows EXACTLY what the planet is like as you will find out if you actually read what they say.

Youre welcome

You lied. It is as simple as that.  What you say the Mars people think and what they really think are as different as night and day.

The reason that I don't think Mars colonization will work is they don't have viable exports to Earth. They will need money or it won't work for long? If they had a viable way to make a profit, Mars could be a dozen times the Hellhole that it is and it would not stop the effort.

My issue is costs.  There are more than enough problems on earth to focus on.

Wow. There will always be enough problems on Earth. Space exploration will not prevent a single dollar from being spent on those problems. In fact, that space exploration is good for the economy will mean there will be more tax dollars to spend on those problems, not to mention new technology to use, and better scientific understanding.

Mars can wait until we get things semi settled on earth.

That will never happen. There will always be problems.

Im not against science or exploration.

It is pretty clear that you are against space exploration or at least anything involving humans. You certainly are using the decades old talking points of space exploration opponents.

I am against misallocation of public money for private stock owner gain

So am I.  What does have have to do with anything space? Oh yes. You are misrepresenting your opponents again.

I'd be shocked if you even knew the name of a Mars colonization advocate not named Musk so lets look at him. He is into the libertarian Kool aid. He just wants to do it even without government help. He imagines that SpaceX can give loans to people to get them there which I think is fantastical. He is in favor of fark the government, lets just go. Everything he has done with SpaceX has been to facilitate Mars colonization.  He is directly responsible for space companies getting vastly less money from the government. You see, any desire to send loads of people to Mars will require vastly cheaper access to space.  The American rocket companies had not done squat to make rockets cheaper for decades as with their cost-plus contracts it would just cost them money. That someone with only a few hundred million bucks of his own money and at best token help resulted in the cheapest, most reliable way to space is telling.  For a typical SpaceX launch for the DoD, they launch for a quarter of cost.  Part of the reason his competition still gets contracts is a government desire to keep them in business.  "New space" who Elon is the poster child for has the idea that companies should bid x dollars for a space project and get paid on delivery and/or accomplishing pre-specified criteria. Boeing will have to pay a few hundred million of their own money to fix the problems and redo the test of their Starliner because they farked it up the first time. It was not that long ago when the would have been paid all expenses plus a profit margin for the redo. Meanwhile SpaceX won the lunar lander contract by bidding under its actual expected costs. This possible because  SpaceX was going to build starships even without the government.  So far the government money that SpaceX has gotten is overwhelmingly for doing what they promised to do. Someone recently added up all the government payments to SpaceX. It was ten billion less than what the government would have spent to have someone else to launch the payloads. This did not count extra taxes for returning most of the world's commercial launches from foreign entities to America. Nor does it count that the competition has been forced to charge the government less when they get a contract.  If you like the government having more money to spend then you should adore Elon Musk. His habit of saying asinine things is a small price for the good he has done. Don't want the government to pay for an attempted Mars colony attempt? You are in luck. He is going to try anyways. I think it will not obtain self sufficiency, but if SpaceX wants to spend its billions, I won't cry over the side effect of vastly cheaper access to space which we do need for those who will remain living on Earth.


yes but did you consider how the "weird nerds" Simpsons meme will devastate your argument while you were making your post?
 
2021-10-17 8:19:00 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: There will always be enough problems on Earth.


A rat done bit my sister, Nell.
 
2021-10-17 8:22:34 PM  
Bill Anders is also unique as the only known astronaut to go all the way to the moon and back without pooping even once while away. He didn't want to do the "hold a baggie to your butt" technique while elbow to elbow with the other two guys given that that was the only way to do it at the time in the cramped Apollo capsule.
 
2021-10-17 8:39:10 PM  

Linux_Yes: My issue is costs. There are more than enough problems on earth to focus on.

Mars can wait until we get things semi settled on earth.

Im not against science or exploration. I am against misallocation of public money for private stock owner gain


What we spend on space exploration is a pittance compared to everything else.  When GW Bush left office, one of the last bills passed was the TARP bailout.  It was a $787 Billion bailout bill that pales in comparison to some of the larger infrastructure and green bills being proposed today.  Yet at that time that one bill was more money than every NASA budget combined since the agency had been created back in 1953.  Every space and science mission.  Every rocket, satellite, rover, space telescope - all of it was less than the price tag of that one year's bailout package.

There's a lot of government waste, but the space programs doesn't even constitute a rounding error on what gets spent every year.

One thing space exploration does do that is difficult to put a price tag on is inspire people. How many kids got excited about science and space and went into STEM fields to become the scientists, engineers and astronauts of today?  How much do they improve everyone's lives?  It's a powerful thing to make people want to aspire to be more than we are today. They're the ones who will find the solutions to the problems we face today.
 
2021-10-17 8:41:15 PM  
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2021-10-17 9:28:14 PM  
"Risk is Our Business" - speech explaining what Star Trek is about
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2021-10-18 6:45:55 AM  

Saturn5: Linux_Yes: My issue is costs. There are more than enough problems on earth to focus on.

Mars can wait until we get things semi settled on earth.

Im not against science or exploration. I am against misallocation of public money for private stock owner gain

What we spend on space exploration is a pittance compared to everything else.  When GW Bush left office, one of the last bills passed was the TARP bailout.  It was a $787 Billion bailout bill that pales in comparison to some of the larger infrastructure and green bills being proposed today.  Yet at that time that one bill was more money than every NASA budget combined since the agency had been created back in 1953.  Every space and science mission.  Every rocket, satellite, rover, space telescope - all of it was less than the price tag of that one year's bailout package.

There's a lot of government waste, but the space programs doesn't even constitute a rounding error on what gets spent every year.

One thing space exploration does do that is difficult to put a price tag on is inspire people. How many kids got excited about science and space and went into STEM fields to become the scientists, engineers and astronauts of today?  How much do they improve everyone's lives?  It's a powerful thing to make people want to aspire to be more than we are today. They're the ones who will find the solutions to the problems we face today.


If itll keep em from going into finance on wall street it might be worth it.
 
2021-10-18 8:00:50 AM  
There is no far side of the moon. As a matter of fact it's all far.
 
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