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2021-10-17 9:47:09 AM  
"Do you think this committee will ultimately get access to the documents and testimony they want and if so, by the time the next election rolls around?" Acosta asked. "Every cynic in Washington is just shaking their heads and saying no."

This country's so farking broken.
 
2021-10-17 10:15:08 AM  
If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They've been playing Calvinball with laws and rules and norms since at least Newt's ascension, and there's no indication that they're going to stop.
 
2021-10-17 10:27:21 AM  
I don't care if they both hang.

He had better get his ass in there
 
2021-10-17 11:13:42 AM  

vudukungfu: I don't care if they both hang.

He had better get his ass in there


I hope Trump is hung but I have it on good authority that he isn't.
 
2021-10-17 11:29:45 AM  
It is essential that Bannon either testifies or is jailed for the duration.

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2021-10-17 11:29:57 AM  
He's never going to testify.
 
2021-10-17 11:31:13 AM  
Sundays are lame in here.
Even the shills are phoning it in.
 
2021-10-17 11:36:57 AM  
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2021-10-17 11:37:12 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?


They'll remind him that the Fifth Amendment only applies to him and his spouse.
 
2021-10-17 11:39:33 AM  

IlGreven: Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They'll remind him that the Fifth Amendment only applies to him and his spouse.


And obstruction of congress/obstructing a federal investigation is a real charge with real jail time.
 
2021-10-17 11:41:22 AM  
Bannon's trying to avoid the subpoena just to be an obstinate prick, not because he's afraid of implicating Big Dummy. If he ever does appear, there is absolutely no chance he does anything but stonewall.
 
2021-10-17 11:42:42 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They've been playing Calvinball with laws and rules and norms since at least Newt's ascension, and there's no indication that they're going to stop.


I have a vision in my head of Bannon sitting in court and with every question asked he does a Dave Chappelle and holds up a hand-lettered sign that says 'FIF'.
 
2021-10-17 11:43:48 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They've been playing Calvinball with laws and rules and norms since at least Newt's ascension, and there's no indication that they're going to stop.


This exactly. In past depositions, Bannon is reported to have just laughed maniacally, like the Joker. He will never actually answer questions. Neither will Trump, if they manage to depose him.
 
2021-10-17 11:47:28 AM  
I think... I think... I think...

Whole lot of that in article. Drag his ass hobo looking ass in and make him testify in the open.
 
2021-10-17 11:48:25 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: I think... I think... I think...

Whole lot of that in article. Drag his ass hobo looking ass in and make him testify in the open.


I said ass twice

Oh well. Still applies
 
2021-10-17 11:49:14 AM  

Evil Twin Skippy: IlGreven: Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They'll remind him that the Fifth Amendment only applies to him and his spouse.

And obstruction of congress/obstructing a federal investigation is a real charge with real jail time.


Oh...Democrats in Congress  got a spine? When did this happen?

/Democrat
 
2021-10-17 11:50:33 AM  
LAW AND ORDER! *poops diaper*
 
2021-10-17 11:54:12 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They've been playing Calvinball with laws and rules and norms since at least Newt's ascension, and there's no indication that they're going to stop.


Once they have him on stage Bannon won't pass up the opportunity to perform

I don't recall...5 minutes of random conspiracy bullshiat
 
2021-10-17 11:54:49 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: Officer Barrelroll: I think... I think... I think...

Whole lot of that in article. Drag his ass hobo looking ass in and make him testify in the open.

I said ass twice

Oh well. Still applies


"Ass hobo" has a nice schoolyard-taunt ring to it.
 
2021-10-17 11:55:04 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: Officer Barrelroll: I think... I think... I think...

Whole lot of that in article. Drag his ass hobo looking ass in and make him testify in the open.

I said ass twice

Oh well. Still applies


judges also would have accepted: "hobo-ass ass-looking ass-hobo ass"
 
2021-10-17 11:55:53 AM  
Raid him.
Cuff him.
Stick him in a cell.

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2021-10-17 11:56:03 AM  
I figured he would just lie under oath and then... nothing.
 
2021-10-17 11:57:04 AM  
All he's going to say is "I don't recall" to every question. It's going to be a shiatshow.
 
2021-10-17 11:57:05 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They've been playing Calvinball with laws and rules and norms since at least Newt's ascension, and there's no indication that they're going to stop.


There's also the question of all of his electronic devices and if he attempted to destroy any evidence.
 
2021-10-17 12:04:00 PM  
Flip to care about himself?

Have you seen the results of Bannon's "self care"?
 
2021-10-17 12:06:45 PM  
"...[in 1934]put him in the Willard [Hotel] for ten days until he agreed to cooperate."

Fascinating -- most of them might feel right at home if history were to repeat itself. All those insurrectionists and seditionist worms like to hang out there in contemporary times.

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2021-10-17 12:07:40 PM  

eagles95: Evil Twin Skippy: IlGreven: Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They'll remind him that the Fifth Amendment only applies to him and his spouse.

And obstruction of congress/obstructing a federal investigation is a real charge with real jail time.

Oh...Democrats in Congress  got a spine? When did this happen?

/Democrat


When they found themselves barricading themselves and their staff in their offices against an armed mob.

Tends to change your outlook on life
 
2021-10-17 12:07:43 PM  
why are we even bothering to ask him questions? just seize all his electronic devices and search them. guarantee everything everyone wants to see is there if we dig a little.  these people are not tech savvy.  the guy he's trying to protect, the former president of the goddamn united states, used MAGA2020 as his twitter password.
 
2021-10-17 12:09:27 PM  
The most embarrassing thing is how many people got played by don trump.

They cannot accept the reality of this.

You are don trumps political and / or business cuckhold.
 
2021-10-17 12:09:34 PM  
Steveie right now.

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2021-10-17 12:12:33 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Flip to care about himself?

Have you seen the results of Bannon's "self care"?


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So much to do, so little time!
He only ever does #2, and doing that every day doesn't make up for neglecting the other items on the list.
 
2021-10-17 12:13:35 PM  
Bannon seems to have a little bit of a G Gordon Liddy mentality, or at least he wants us to believe that he does.   He wants us to think he's that brave soldier who will go to the enemy's prison camp resolutely, never wavering in his loyalty.  Brassy fanfares and tragic music in a minor key, lots of weeping women, noble patriots swelling with determination and confidence in their rightness - it's a real big dramatic, historic event Steve Bannon is doing.  He thinks, or he wants us to think.

Liddy actually went to prison, then spent the rest of his life on a speaking tour bragging about his prison cred and his moral and physical toughness.   I don't know if Bannon has more than a weekend of lockup in him, and I don't believe he's a Tru-Believer in Trumpism.  I think he's always just been in it for the easy money.  Isn't that the kind of person who'll roll over on his accomplices when he's run out of appeals and is facing real incarceration?
 
2021-10-17 12:15:38 PM  
I imagine Bannon's avoiding because A) he believes he'll get away with it and B) it's part of the general delaying tactic to assist with the mid-terms and from there to take the presidency via non-democratic means.

What's amazing is that everyone on both sides knows this, yet everyone plays along even knowing that playing along is helping the seditionists.
 
2021-10-17 12:17:02 PM  

Aquapope: I don't believe he's a Tru-Believer in Trumpism.


Believe it.

Trump Believers could be anyone. It's an amazing phenomenon. Don't underestimate it.
 
2021-10-17 12:18:56 PM  

red230: All he's going to say is "I don't recall" to every question. It's going to be a shiatshow.


And that's when the Contempt Hammer comes down.*

*In a more sane America where Justice still matters
 
2021-10-17 12:21:34 PM  
Should we call John Dean "Mr. Obvious" for telling us stuff we already knew?
 
2021-10-17 12:24:25 PM  
He assumes all actions taken against him are toothless and he can run out the clock.
Just chain his hobo ass to a granite block in Gitmo and waterboard him already
You don't get needed information by asking for it expecting compliance. You take it
 
2021-10-17 12:24:32 PM  
John Dean? I guess it takes one treasonous shiat weasel to know one.
 
2021-10-17 12:25:17 PM  
I dunno why Bannon would care about Trump.  Trump fired him years ago.

Bannon's just into his White Power causes.
 
2021-10-17 12:25:28 PM  

IlGreven: Garza and the Supermutants: If they get him in, what's to stop him from answering "I do not recall" to every question?

They'll remind him that the Fifth Amendment only applies to him and his spouse.


"I do not recall" is not invoking the 5th
 
2021-10-17 12:25:39 PM  

berylman: He assumes all actions taken against him are toothless and he can run out the clock.
Just chain his hobo ass to a granite block in Gitmo and waterboard him already
You don't get needed information by asking for it expecting compliance. You take it


That's a fast way to get wrong information.
 
2021-10-17 12:26:50 PM  

berylman: He assumes all actions taken against him are toothless and he can run out the clock.
Just chain his hobo ass to a granite block in Gitmo and waterboard him already
You don't get needed information by asking for it expecting compliance. You take it


You have to be careful with torture, because the tortured rapidly become experts at guessing what you want to hear in order to get the torture to let up for a moment.  I'm not completely against torture when the need is great enough, but it's pointless for extracting information you can't quickly verify very quickly... and usually if it's that easy to verify, you already know it via other means.
 
2021-10-17 12:27:36 PM  
It depends. Is he willing to risk a perjury charge? Will he have to report to jail before 2025?
 
2021-10-17 12:28:27 PM  

Unsung_Hero: berylman: He assumes all actions taken against him are toothless and he can run out the clock.
Just chain his hobo ass to a granite block in Gitmo and waterboard him already
You don't get needed information by asking for it expecting compliance. You take it

You have to be careful with torture, because the tortured rapidly become experts at guessing what you want to hear in order to get the torture to let up for a moment.  I'm not completely against torture when the need is great enough, but it's pointless for extracting information you can't quickly verify very quickly... and usually if it's that easy to verify, you already know it via other means.


Also torturing someone TEACHES them how to torture others.
 
2021-10-17 12:28:57 PM  
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2021-10-17 12:29:26 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Officer Barrelroll: I think... I think... I think...

Whole lot of that in article. Drag his ass hobo looking ass in and make him testify in the open.

I said ass twice

Oh well. Still applies


He does indeed look like an ass hobo.
 
2021-10-17 12:30:09 PM  

Aquapope: Liddy actually went to prison, then spent the rest of his life on a speaking tour bragging about his prison cred and his moral and physical toughness.   I don't know if Bannon has more than a weekend of lockup in him, and I don't believe he's a Tru-Believer in Trumpism.  I think he's always just been in it for the easy money.  Isn't that the kind of person who'll roll over on his accomplices when he's run out of appeals and is facing real incarceration?


Liddy also reportedly stuck his finger into a candle flame and held it there to demonstrate his strength of will.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59jjk​5​/g-gordon-liddy-conquered-pain

I don't see Bannon attempting anything like that.
 
2021-10-17 12:33:23 PM  

berylman: Just chain his hobo ass to a granite block in Gitmo and waterboard him already


Oh okay, yeah that'll happen.
 
2021-10-17 12:34:14 PM  
Torture is entertainment for the torturers and nothing more.

You can squeeze more accurate guesses from stupid Tarot cards than from stripping away someone's humanity and dignity.

I have no desire to help people* who keep hurting me and that's the correct way for all humans to feel about being repeatedly hurt without mercy.

/* psychic spies, if you're real FARK YOU YOU FARKING TORTURERS I HOPE YOU WATCH YOUR CHILDREN DIE THEN YOU DIE
 
2021-10-17 12:37:00 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Unsung_Hero: berylman: He assumes all actions taken against him are toothless and he can run out the clock.
Just chain his hobo ass to a granite block in Gitmo and waterboard him already
You don't get needed information by asking for it expecting compliance. You take it

You have to be careful with torture, because the tortured rapidly become experts at guessing what you want to hear in order to get the torture to let up for a moment.  I'm not completely against torture when the need is great enough, but it's pointless for extracting information you can't quickly verify very quickly... and usually if it's that easy to verify, you already know it via other means.

Also torturing someone TEACHES them how to torture others.


If you're up for torturing someone, they should be bad enough to execute when you're done.  Or at least lock up forever.  The idea that you're training a new generation of torturers would be very close to the bottom of my concerns with the method.
 
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