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1210 clicks; posted to Business » on 16 Oct 2021 at 6:35 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-10-16 6:55:25 PM  
We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.
 
2021-10-16 7:26:58 PM  
By 2038, the trucks will all be self-driving.
 
2021-10-16 7:27:48 PM  

AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.


Should we?  If 18 year olds are training to be truckers, they are not going to university.  If they are not going to university, they are not becoming part of the collective.  Not getting hundreds of thousands to a million dollars in debt.  Without the debt, the government doesn't own them.  If they are free from the government, then they might vote for wrong people and not support the system.
 
2021-10-16 7:30:43 PM  
Because teenagers are so great at driving regular sized vehicles...
 
2021-10-16 8:03:18 PM  

RepoManTSM: Because teenagers are so great at driving regular sized vehicles...


Next up, Smokey and the Bandit reboot.
 
2021-10-16 8:48:35 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.

Should we?  If 18 year olds are training to be truckers, they are not going to university.  If they are not going to university, they are not becoming part of the collective.  Not getting hundreds of thousands to a million dollars in debt.  Without the debt, the government doesn't own them.  If they are free from the government, then they might vote for wrong people and not support the system.


Eh training costs money  pays shiat  and to set your own schedule you've got to be an owner operator...there is a debt cycle don't worry
 
2021-10-16 8:58:22 PM  
I'd go back into truck driving except i like to smoke weed on the weekends instead of getting drunk, so obviously its far too dangerous for me to go anywhere near a truck ever again.
 
2021-10-16 8:58:58 PM  

DrunkenIrishOD: AmbassadorBooze: AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.

Should we?  If 18 year olds are training to be truckers, they are not going to university.  If they are not going to university, they are not becoming part of the collective.  Not getting hundreds of thousands to a million dollars in debt.  Without the debt, the government doesn't own them.  If they are free from the government, then they might vote for wrong people and not support the system.

Eh training costs money  pays shiat  and to set your own schedule you've got to be an owner operator...there is a debt cycle don't worry


Sure a debt cycle, but what if the future truckers don't know the right things?  What if they vote wrong?
 
2021-10-16 9:08:23 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: DrunkenIrishOD: AmbassadorBooze: AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.

Should we?  If 18 year olds are training to be truckers, they are not going to university.  If they are not going to university, they are not becoming part of the collective.  Not getting hundreds of thousands to a million dollars in debt.  Without the debt, the government doesn't own them.  If they are free from the government, then they might vote for wrong people and not support the system.

Eh training costs money  pays shiat  and to set your own schedule you've got to be an owner operator...there is a debt cycle don't worry

Sure a debt cycle, but what if the future truckers don't know the right things?  What if they vote wrong?


That's what the stimulate addictions for
 
2021-10-16 9:13:52 PM  

AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.


Maybe but I can introduce you to a hundred people that left trucking because of shiatty pay, shiatty treatment, and dangerous working conditions.

Trucking companies are relying on kids being stupid to get out if the corner they've painted themselves into mistreating employees for decades. The guy was "called to teaching" because he makes more money teaching people to drive trucks than he ever did driving trucks.

He's full of shiat.
 
2021-10-16 9:24:27 PM  
Sure as fark beat sending them to boot camp then some hell hole in the name of 'national defense'
 
2021-10-16 9:33:14 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Sure as fark beat sending them to boot camp then some hell hole in the name of 'national defense'


But enough about fort Bragg.
 
2021-10-16 9:53:11 PM  
You can make a good living as a truck driver... but its a career path that is full of scams and pitfalls, and if you fall into any one of them even the minor ones, even once it is the end of your career forever.

When you first get into it, it can cost anywhere between 2k-4k to go thru the trucker school that gets you a class-A CDL. If you dont have this money, some companies (like swift) will cover that in exchange for you singing a 2 (or 3 i dont remember) contract, also you have to pay it back with interest.

This is the first big scam, as the company has these guys by the short-and-curlies & they know it. Quitting the job will cost you big big bucks, so you have to drive whatever low-paying short-mile BS runs they stick you with... and they'll be sure to always give you the worst they got.  Also if you have any accidents or other incursions during that time that results in your premature retirement from trucking, you'll be on the hook for paying all that back. That being said, a lot of guys do manage to grind through those contract years & go on to make good money.

You can pay your own way through the trucker school (this is what i did) and then you'll have quite a few companies competing over you. Its kinda nice actually. The whole last week of trucker school is basically company reps coming in & trying to sell you on their company... do your homework and research the company.

All these companies will try to trick you into falling for scam #2, Truck leasing.  Ever wanted to rent your own job? Ever wished you could spend years driving the piss out of a company rig and then after its all worn out and has no value the company lets you keep it? How would you like to compete with those guys i mentioned earlier for the shiattiest and shortest low-paying routes?  Well then the company has a deal for you! 
If you ever see those guys in the black Werner trucks.. thats what that is.

Heres the thing they dont tell you. Most drivers crash or screw up or wash out in those first 2 years... something like 80% of them. So the insurance companies charge out the nose to insure those drivers. But trucking companies are desperate enough, and the business is profitable enough, that they just pay it. However, once you have 2+ years of OTR driving under your belt, the insurance costs drop dramatically, the companies trust you more, the world is your oyster. You can get any schedule you want, you can get any route you want, you can get any truck you want... hell if you want to you can go talk to a bank & they'll be happy to give you $300k to build out the kenworth of your dreams & you can go owner-op. 

But you gotta get that 2 years first... and like i said, most guys dont.
 
2021-10-16 9:54:24 PM  
I remember an article at the start of the fraking in SD about a girl that was training to be mechanic for all the trucks going through. I hope she did well, seemed like a good plan.
 
2021-10-16 10:11:41 PM  
That's easy, already have a training guide for teenagers that like games.

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2021-10-16 10:14:22 PM  
chewd:

After 2+ years they show you where to bury the hookers. But it's not quite celebration time, you still need to collect the bodies of the hookers that you've already killed and move them which can be precarious. It is critical to stay alert at all times. If another trucker offers you a line, do it. They are there to help.
 
2021-10-16 11:58:10 PM  
"Kids shouldn't be going to college and getting tens of thousands of dollars in debt, they should go into a trade, like trucking!"

-Trucking pays shiat per hour unless you're an owner/operator.  A new Peterbilt costs 100,000-200,000.  Even if you buy used, it can cost $185,000 per year just to keep it on the road.

-Long haul will be automated, probably within 10 years.  Not much of a career, you have no other skills, and what's probably your biggest asset is now a buggy whip.
 
2021-10-17 1:33:28 AM  

Wireless Joe: "Kids shouldn't be going to college and getting tens of thousands of dollars in debt, they should go into a trade, like trucking!"

-Trucking pays shiat per hour unless you're an owner/operator.  A new Peterbilt costs 100,000-200,000.  Even if you buy used, it can cost $185,000 per year just to keep it on the road.

-Long haul will be automated, probably within 10 years.  Not much of a career, you have no other skills, and what's probably your biggest asset is now a buggy whip.


It was supposed to be automated by now, instead we've got a South African mine owners who's cars can't recognize stationary objects and probably choose to kill the pedestrian and driver in one swoop.
 
2021-10-17 1:43:18 AM  
And there were 18 posts in this thread...until I farked it up for everyone.

If you give them weed, whites and wine maybe there wouldn't be such a shortage.
 
2021-10-17 12:47:33 PM  

Daer21: Unoriginal_Username: Sure as fark beat sending them to boot camp then some hell hole in the name of 'national defense'

But enough about fort Bragg.


Meh. That reminds me. I have to finalize the plans to drive up to Fort Benning in a week or so.

My Great Niece married her an army fellah. And they decided to give a childless couple a 4br unit in base housing. So mom wants to give her about a U-Haul trailer worth of household stuff and such.

Trip is just far enough that I'll need a hotel room. In...Columbus. *shudder*

But hey, I bet Grindr and Scruff are hopping up there.
 
2021-10-17 4:55:18 PM  

king of vegas: By 2038, the trucks will all be self-driving.


If we do things right. Don't teach young people automatable jobs. Teach them to automate.
 
2021-10-17 4:57:48 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Sure as fark beat sending them to boot camp then some hell hole in the name of 'national defense'


That is a truth-fact. But if those are your only options, just shut down your country already.
 
2021-10-17 8:09:44 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.

Should we?  If 18 year olds are training to be truckers, they are not going to university.  If they are not going to university, they are not becoming part of the collective.  Not getting hundreds of thousands to a million dollars in debt.  Without the debt, the government doesn't own them.  If they are free from the government, then they might vote for wrong people and not support the system.


Stop with this bullshiat. This isn't some concerted scheme to keep the little man down. You're failing to accomplish anything due to your own inadequacies. Try taking some responsibility for once in your life and accept reality, rather than blaming everything on everyone else.
 
2021-10-17 8:22:31 PM  

AsparagusFTW: We need more of this. For every trade. This is a great first step.


Yep. Some people jump on that when you mention school for everyone, and they pretend like you couldn't possibly mean a trade school because you didn't say the exact words. In reality, post high school education differs for everyone, but we should all be able to get a career, regardless of where we get the education for that.
 
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