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2021-10-16 12:02:15 PM  
Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.
 
2021-10-16 12:37:46 PM  

Cafe Threads: Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.


As he should.
 
2021-10-16 12:38:24 PM  
Cops - America's most successful gangsters.
 
2021-10-16 12:39:31 PM  

Cafe Threads: Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.


He's going to be extremely luck to not be owning 10' of rope.
 
2021-10-16 12:40:13 PM  
Hey, he wasn't murdered by his fellow police officers!?!  What do people want?   /s
 
2021-10-16 12:40:40 PM  
this is exactly why ACAB.

those that try not to be are systematically ostracized and/or intentionally burned up in a cabin in big bear.

/carl cavalier is a farking awesome name
//dude, do porn
 
2021-10-16 12:40:56 PM  
The only way to be swiftly fired from the police force that we have ever seen.
 
2021-10-16 12:40:57 PM  
It's not enough for cops to rot most of the apples in the barrel. They also have to search for and throw out the ripe and healthy apples too.
 
2021-10-16 12:43:16 PM  
Well he's black and it's Louisiana. Is this a surprise?
 
2021-10-16 12:43:44 PM  

Serious Black: It's not enough for cops to rot most of the apples in the barrel. They also have to search for and throw out the ripe and healthy apples too.


How else are you going to make booz in an age of prohibition?
 
2021-10-16 12:45:38 PM  
So violating policy is a firing?

So when are those other cops mentioned in the article getting turfed then?
 
2021-10-16 12:45:51 PM  
Maybe he in not vaccinated?
Public employee unions suck!
 
2021-10-16 12:47:04 PM  
"Two troopers involved in the incident were reprimanded for their actions that night, including for not following procedures for body-worn cameras. A third was to be terminated for violations regarding body-worn camera and car camera systems"

Obviously they needed retraining on when to turn the cameras off.
 
2021-10-16 12:47:18 PM  

Walker: Well he's black and it's Louisiana. Is this a surprise?


The surprise is that he felt safe enough to speak out and that he hasn't been "in the line of duty"-ed yet. This was apparently in Monroe, which is essentially Arkansas.
 
2021-10-16 12:48:01 PM  
Carl Cavalier is one of the greatest fake names ever.
 
2021-10-16 12:48:21 PM  
The internal investigation, according to the letter, claims that Cavalier violated the department's policy on "Public Statement," "Lawful Orders," "Loyalty to the Department,"

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2021-10-16 12:48:28 PM  
I put a condom on my Fox 40 once and it just sounded like farts.
 
2021-10-16 12:49:19 PM  
Surprised the Fark bootlickers haven't shown up yet.
 
2021-10-16 12:49:46 PM  
"The internal investigation, according to the letter, claims that Cavalier violated the department's policy on "Public Statement," "Lawful Orders," "Loyalty to the Department," "Dissemination of Information," "Seeking Publicity" and "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.""

They don't often state so clearly why they ran a person out.

Loyalty my ass, loyalty is a two-way street, employers expect it but give any.
 
2021-10-16 12:50:37 PM  
A third was to be terminated for violations regarding body-worn camera and car camera systems, use of force, performance, lawful orders and for conduct unbecoming an officer. That trooper died in a car crash before he could be fired, according to LSP Superintendent Col. Lamar Davis.

Now THAT's how the LSP normally terminates those they can't trust. Trooper Cavalier is lucky.

/so far
 
2021-10-16 12:50:51 PM  
I accidentally the word don't in my last post, oops.
 
2021-10-16 12:51:26 PM  
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/sadly
 
2021-10-16 12:53:11 PM  
I am surprised that cops haven't adopted the jump in jump out policy that gangs use.
 
2021-10-16 12:53:47 PM  

Boo_Guy: I accidentally the word don't in my last post, oops.


You accidentally didn't use the word used in that

/quit while you're behind
 
2021-10-16 12:53:59 PM  
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2021-10-16 12:54:04 PM  
Why don't you wait and see if the protection mechanisms work before getting melodramatic.  If he proves that he should be capable of the disclosures he made, and that he was wrongfully terminated, the whistleblower protections...work.
 
2021-10-16 12:56:00 PM  
Ready to abolish the police yet?
 
2021-10-16 12:56:19 PM  

SergeantObvious: Cafe Threads: Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.

As he should.


No.  He should be owning all of the police officers assets along with their pensions.  It's not the fault of those paying taxes.
 
2021-10-16 12:59:26 PM  

TomDooley: SergeantObvious: Cafe Threads: Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.

As he should.

No.  He should be owning all of the police officers assets along with their pensions.  It's not the fault of those paying taxes.


Don't forget their wives and daughters.
 
2021-10-16 12:59:59 PM  
That trooper died in a car crash before he could be fired, according to LSP Superintendent Col. Lamar Davis.

Sounds like a classic, "Blame everything on the dead guy" strategy.
 
2021-10-16 1:12:17 PM  

Fonaibung: Surprised the Fark bootlickers haven't shown up yet.


They dodge any thread where they can't impugn the victim over their background, behavior, or "culture".
 
2021-10-16 1:12:22 PM  
Good luck reforming THAT.
 
2021-10-16 1:14:29 PM  
I'm sure the union will rush to protect him.
/s
 
2021-10-16 1:14:39 PM  
MON-roe cops.

/MOR-ans
 
2021-10-16 1:16:25 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Why don't you wait and see if the protection mechanisms work before getting melodramatic.  If he proves that he should be capable of the disclosures he made, and that he was wrongfully terminated, the whistleblower protections...work.


The Bush II, Obama, and Trump years normalized active persecution of whistleblowers. Talk to Bird and Crane, featured in Bravehearts: Whistle-Blowing in the Age of Snowden. Going through channels and following the rules simply makes you an easier-to-hit target
 
2021-10-16 1:18:18 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Fonaibung: Surprised the Fark bootlickers haven't shown up yet.

They dodge any thread where they can't impugn the victim over their background, behavior, or "culture".


I'm sure they'll say he was a secret radical who believes that Black people's lives aren't completely disposable which means he's a commie traitor and the real racist.
 
2021-10-16 1:20:18 PM  
Real whistleblowers, the ones that truly reveal dark secrets, have never, and will never, receive any form of state protection.
 
2021-10-16 1:25:46 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: The internal investigation, according to the letter, claims that Cavalier violated the department's policy on "Public Statement," "Lawful Orders," "Loyalty to the Department,"

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That face is hideous.
Not ALL cops are bad. RIP TB EOW 8-30-2011.
 
2021-10-16 1:28:18 PM  
"The internal investigation, according to the letter, claims that Cavalier violated the department's policy..."

I'm guessing they didn't like his cavalier attitude.
 
2021-10-16 1:37:30 PM  

Boo_Guy: "The internal investigation, according to the letter, claims that Cavalier violated the department's policy on "Public Statement," "Lawful Orders," "Loyalty to the Department," "Dissemination of Information," "Seeking Publicity" and "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.""

They don't often state so clearly why they ran a person out.

Loyalty my ass, loyalty is a two-way street, employers expect it but give any.


Pretty sure none of those offences count when you're testifying abt a murder. And, IIRC, if you're involved, even peripherally, in a crime that results in someone's death, you are as guilty as the peson who caused that death. So...why, he asks, are the other two troopers not being charged with at least manslaughter?

Oh, the victim was Black, and they have a conveniently dead scapegoat. So, we all good here?
 
2021-10-16 1:42:34 PM  
but body camera and dash camera video released to the public two years later tell a different story of what happened.

And this is why all bodycam footage should be turned over to an independent department IMMEDIATELY.  I've lost count of the number of times police have sat on incriminating video for years while the incidents were quietly buried.
 
2021-10-16 1:43:51 PM  

Cafe Threads: Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.


This is white logic. In reality, if he tried to sue, the state will somehow make it illegal for him to sue them. Then they will charge him with a crime and convict him as revenge. That is if he doesn't turn up dead first
 
2021-10-16 1:45:44 PM  
Odds on he's going to "shoot himself" in the back of the head twice while handcuffed?
 
2021-10-16 1:45:52 PM  
I think whistleblower laws only apply to federal employees or people pulling the veil from companies that operate across state lines.

Any shred attorney could make bank on billable hours with this case and hopefully this guy gets "fark you" money. He should also find a good investigative journalist.
 
2021-10-16 1:46:38 PM  

anuran: DeathByGeekSquad: Why don't you wait and see if the protection mechanisms work before getting melodramatic.  If he proves that he should be capable of the disclosures he made, and that he was wrongfully terminated, the whistleblower protections...work.

The Bush II, Obama, and Trump years normalized active persecution of whistleblowers. Talk to Bird and Crane, featured in Bravehearts: Whistle-Blowing in the Age of Snowden. Going through channels and following the rules simply makes you an easier-to-hit target


I guess you never heard of Karen Silkwood, Frank Serpico, or Daniel Ellsberg. Persecuting whistleblowers has ALWAYS been normal and seen as a good thing.

Expecting good cops to come forward because its the right thing to do just shows how stupid people are when "snitches get stitches" is a standard playground taunt to tattletales. It has never been acceptable to rat on your own.

Anyone who thinks they would do it is pretty much lying. It's the hardest thing you'll ever have to do, and worse when you're a badge; I know because I have done it. It sucks.
 
2021-10-16 1:48:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: anuran: DeathByGeekSquad: Why don't you wait and see if the protection mechanisms work before getting melodramatic.  If he proves that he should be capable of the disclosures he made, and that he was wrongfully terminated, the whistleblower protections...work.

The Bush II, Obama, and Trump years normalized active persecution of whistleblowers. Talk to Bird and Crane, featured in Bravehearts: Whistle-Blowing in the Age of Snowden. Going through channels and following the rules simply makes you an easier-to-hit target

I guess you never heard of Karen Silkwood, Frank Serpico, or Daniel Ellsberg. Persecuting whistleblowers has ALWAYS been normal and seen as a good thing.

Expecting good cops to come forward because its the right thing to do just shows how stupid people are when "snitches get stitches" is a standard playground taunt to tattletales. It has never been acceptable to rat on your own.

Anyone who thinks they would do it is pretty much lying. It's the hardest thing you'll ever have to do, and worse when you're a badge; I know because I have done it. It sucks.


True.  Although Snowden isn't a whistleblower, he's a Russian asset.
 
2021-10-16 1:54:03 PM  

SergeantObvious: Cafe Threads: Lawyers must be lined up for this guy.

He'll end up owning the whole town.

As he should.


Can you do a federal lawsuit for this (I'd expect Obama gutted any such protections.  Best bet would be if Trump botched further acts)?  Somehow I suspect that the courts will manage to have an all white "back the blue" jury regardless of where he files in Louisiana.

And don't forget that the judge will likely set aside any jury decision that gives him "the whole town".  Or even $3.
 
2021-10-16 2:01:50 PM  
Subby, just tell everyone that you have no idea how whistleblower protection laws work.

Here's a hint, they don't cover what this guy is alleged to have done.
 
2021-10-16 2:09:36 PM  
How can he be protected as a whistleblower when he made appearances on CNN? and such appearances violated policies set forth by his employer

be interesting to see if the State Patrol office gave him the okay to appear on CNN, but then they used that appearance to fire him
 
2021-10-16 2:25:06 PM  
Police Captain: oh shiat, Bob died in a car crash. Hey! Let's pin all this b.s. on him.
Lieutenant: what about the other two?
Captain: lol - say we investigated them and found nothing to prosecute.
Lieutenant: but they beat a man to death!
Captain: and? He was black. You've got a lot to learn, lieutenant.
 
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