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(Five Thirty-Eight)   Which is better - a first down quarterback or a third down quarterback?   (fivethirtyeight.com) divider line
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587 clicks; posted to Sports » on 16 Oct 2021 at 7:45 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-10-16 2:38:53 AM  
Tom Brady
 
2021-10-16 7:36:28 AM  
Herbert will probably last longer so he's more valuable. The way Jackson flings his body around... he not going to be able to do that forever.

But goddamn, they are both fun to watch for what they do. Doubt I get to see that game today, but there will be great highlights.
 
2021-10-16 8:24:56 AM  
Not clicking on 538.  I can make up or cherry pick stats all by myself thankyouverymuch.
 
2021-10-16 8:36:29 AM  
If football follows the baseball method, first and third down quarterbacks will become a thing.
 
2021-10-16 9:02:35 AM  
If you have a first-down quarterback and a third-down running back, you will have a great offense.   or a really bad offense.   or something in between.
 
2021-10-16 9:32:09 AM  

Monty_Zoncolan: Tom Brady


He's the super rare fifth down quarterback
 
2021-10-16 9:45:50 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: Not clicking on 538.  I can make up or cherry pick stats all by myself thankyouverymuch.


They're fine.

/nate silver mouthing off on twitter about topics he's not an expert on, on the other hand...
 
2021-10-16 10:00:38 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Monty_Zoncolan: Tom Brady

He's the super rare fifth down quarterback


I thought Charles Johnson was the fifth down QB.
 
2021-10-16 10:19:47 AM  
3rd down. Keeping the other team's offense off the field by eating systematically at the clock is a thing in gridiron football, subs.
 
2021-10-16 10:25:11 AM  
1st down.

Get enough yards on the first two downs, you can let your RB handle 3rd down.  Hence you don't need a 3rd down QB if you have a good 1st down QB.
 
2021-10-16 10:33:41 AM  
1st down. it implies you're rarely in 3rd and long, which means you'll always have more of your playbook to choose from.
 
2021-10-16 10:38:41 AM  

Dafatone: Nana's Vibrator: Not clicking on 538.  I can make up or cherry pick stats all by myself thankyouverymuch.

They're fine.

/nate silver mouthing off on twitter about topics he's not an expert on, on the other hand...


Physicist arrogance is a thing. Nate Silver demonstrated that statistician arrogance is also a thing.
 
2021-10-16 10:46:37 AM  
I mean just look at this graph. Herbert's awesomeness is so readily apparent. If you didn't take this guy in your FF draft you're a loser.

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2021-10-16 11:34:34 AM  
The Seahawks do it different. We pass on first and second, then after two penalties it's 3rd and 25, so they run it.
 
2021-10-16 12:29:43 PM  

etoof: The Seahawks do it different. We pass on first and second, then after two penalties it's 3rd and 25, so they run it.


Now that Geno is starting we can finally have that rare 3rd and 50 that the offense has been missing.
 
2021-10-16 2:37:14 PM  
A good 3rd down quarterback IS a 1sr down quarterback. Duh!
 
2021-10-16 3:44:27 PM  

OkieDookie: etoof: The Seahawks do it different. We pass on first and second, then after two penalties it's 3rd and 25, so they run it.

Now that Geno is starting we can finally have that rare 3rd and 50 that the offense has been missing.


Then go for it on 4th, and run the ball straight up the middle.
 
2021-10-16 3:55:30 PM  

etoof: OkieDookie: etoof: The Seahawks do it different. We pass on first and second, then after two penalties it's 3rd and 25, so they run it.

Now that Geno is starting we can finally have that rare 3rd and 50 that the offense has been missing.

Then go for it on 4th, and run the ball straight up the middle.


Gotta establish that run game
 
2021-10-16 5:32:21 PM  

OkieDookie: etoof: OkieDookie: etoof: The Seahawks do it different. We pass on first and second, then after two penalties it's 3rd and 25, so they run it.

Now that Geno is starting we can finally have that rare 3rd and 50 that the offense has been missing.

Then go for it on 4th, and run the ball straight up the middle.

Gotta establish that run game


You keep doing that so that in the 4th quarter, the defense will be tired and you'll enforce your will on them!
 
2021-10-16 7:44:43 PM  

smd31: OkieDookie: etoof: OkieDookie: etoof: The Seahawks do it different. We pass on first and second, then after two penalties it's 3rd and 25, so they run it.

Now that Geno is starting we can finally have that rare 3rd and 50 that the offense has been missing.

Then go for it on 4th, and run the ball straight up the middle.

Gotta establish that run game

You keep doing that so that in the 4th quarter, the defense will be tired and you'll enforce your will on them!


Ah, the "Homer Simpson" offense.  They'll never see it coming!
 
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