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2021-10-16 7:20:23 AM  
This story has police coverup and lawsuits galore incoming written all over it.
 
2021-10-16 7:23:02 AM  

ClavellBCMI: This story has police coverup and lawsuits galore incoming written all over it.


In Mo Brooks' district, no less. You wouldn't think people that would vote for a fine upstanding man like Mo Brooks would be into this sort of thing....
 
2021-10-16 7:26:22 AM  
The police investigated the missing POC by shooting them?

/Did not RTFA.
 
2021-10-16 7:29:08 AM  

ClavellBCMI: This story has police coverup


My first thought as well, though I'll admit to being something of a cynic.
 
2021-10-16 7:29:32 AM  
There's sloppy, and then there's Don't Give A Fark if people find out what you did.  This sounds like the latter.
 
2021-10-16 7:30:01 AM  
When did 29 become young?
 
2021-10-16 7:30:28 AM  

FriarReb98: ClavellBCMI: This story has police coverup and lawsuits galore incoming written all over it.

In Mo Brooks' district, no less. You wouldn't think people that would vote for a fine upstanding man like Mo Brooks would be into this sort of thing....


I am just surprised they didn't make sure to dump the body in a "bad" neighborhood, instead of leaving it in a marked van in their own parking lot.
 
2021-10-16 7:31:32 AM  
There have been updates to this story already... police have shown camera footage to the media (not released to the public just yet) that appears to show her walking in the parking lot alone, and strongly implies she entered the van alone.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not eager to defend the HPD. There was a shooting incident in a Walmart parking lot a few years ago where the department clearly released only a few select frames of surveillance footage so that their officers didn't look guilty. And of course they kept a convicted murderer on the payroll for months this year. Transparency is a HUGE problem with these guys.

Here's a link to a more recent story on this:
https://www.al.com/news/2021/10/video​-​shows-christina-nance-in-huntsville-po​lice-van-12-days-before-her-body-was-f​ound.html
 
2021-10-16 7:38:53 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


You'll understand when you hit 45.
 
2021-10-16 7:39:58 AM  

Habitual Cynic: StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?

You'll understand when you hit 45.


45 is young.
 
2021-10-16 7:42:04 AM  

Missicat: Habitual Cynic: StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?

You'll understand when you hit 45.

45 is young.


You'll understand when you hit 70.
 
2021-10-16 7:46:39 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


When I hit 40.
 
2021-10-16 7:47:19 AM  
I think it more has to do with the fact she was found in a police van. Pretty sure cops would cover it up for Gabby too.
 
2021-10-16 7:47:42 AM  

ketkarsa: The police investigated the missing POC by shooting them?

/Did not RTFA.


Investigated themselves, found no wrongdoing, etc.
 
2021-10-16 7:49:14 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Missicat: Habitual Cynic: StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?

You'll understand when you hit 45.

45 is young.

You'll understand when you hit 70.


When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not.
 
2021-10-16 7:53:44 AM  

NebTheWise: There have been updates to this story already... police have shown camera footage to the media (not released to the public just yet) that appears to show her walking in the parking lot alone, and strongly implies she entered the van alone.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not eager to defend the HPD. There was a shooting incident in a Walmart parking lot a few years ago where the department clearly released only a few select frames of surveillance footage so that their officers didn't look guilty. And of course they kept a convicted murderer on the payroll for months this year. Transparency is a HUGE problem with these guys.

Here's a link to a more recent story on this:
https://www.al.com/news/2021/10/video-​shows-christina-nance-in-huntsville-po​lice-van-12-days-before-her-body-was-f​ound.html


Don't be harshing the ACAB threads!
 
2021-10-16 7:55:57 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: DarkSoulNoHope: Missicat: Habitual Cynic: StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?

You'll understand when you hit 45.

45 is young.

You'll understand when you hit 70.

When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not.


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2021-10-16 7:56:38 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


When you're 45 like me.
 
2021-10-16 7:57:13 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?

When you're 45 like me.


65.
29 is infantile
 
2021-10-16 7:58:02 AM  
If we were to reallocate a fraction of the police budget in every jurisdiction in this country to funding social services, we would rarely see stories like this ever again.  Alas, we have no way to change budgets.

I weep for our present and future mentally ill.
 
2021-10-16 7:59:45 AM  
All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.
 
2021-10-16 7:59:45 AM  
"We need some clarity, and Christina cannot speak for herself."

No shiat lol!

That's very strange. Let's say the girl snuck into the van just for fun, so why then was she unable to get out of it? They say it's an abandoned van, so probably one of those decommissioned vans that nobody cleans or pays attention to? Was the reason it's abandoned because it's malfunctioning and in this case, the problem was with the locks? The woman couldn't get out after sneaking in and maybe she died of hunger? Couldn't she have broken the windows?

Even in that situation, I don't think that an abandoned van can trap someone like that. It seems highly unlikely. Maybe the real story is that a bad cop locked her up in there and then forgot that she was even in there, and then nobody checked and she died hungry. This is probably more a case of a REAL bad cop doing his job badly or abusing his power.
 
2021-10-16 8:09:00 AM  

GreenSun: Maybe the real story is that a bad cop locked her up in there and then forgot that she was even in there, and then nobody checked and she died hungry. This is probably more a case of a REAL bad cop doing his job badly or abusing his power.


She'd likely die thirsty before she died hungry, just sayin'

Or maybe it was Excited Delirium, that always seems to kill people when cops are around.

Anyway, in your scenario she was probably resisting arrest, which can be a capital crime so nothing to see here, move along
 
2021-10-16 8:27:50 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


Well, I'm 57. 29 sounds pretty young to me.
 
2021-10-16 8:32:31 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


When I turned 40.
 
2021-10-16 8:38:43 AM  

Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.


Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?
 
2021-10-16 8:44:18 AM  

GreenSun: "We need some clarity, and Christina cannot speak for herself."

No shiat lol!

That's very strange. Let's say the girl snuck into the van just for fun, so why then was she unable to get out of it? They say it's an abandoned van, so probably one of those decommissioned vans that nobody cleans or pays attention to? Was the reason it's abandoned because it's malfunctioning and in this case, the problem was with the locks? The woman couldn't get out after sneaking in and maybe she died of hunger? Couldn't she have broken the windows?

Even in that situation, I don't think that an abandoned van can trap someone like that. It seems highly unlikely. Maybe the real story is that a bad cop locked her up in there and then forgot that she was even in there, and then nobody checked and she died hungry. This is probably more a case of a REAL bad cop doing his job badly or abusing his power.


It was not an "abandoned" van. It was an unused van on the police parking lot. The van has been used for prisoner, so it couldn't be opened from the inside.

For her to die of hunger or thirst she must have not had anything to eat or drink for days. Locked in a van. In a busy parking lot. Where everyone ignored the noise coming from the parked van. For days on end.
 
2021-10-16 8:46:15 AM  
Mental illness.  Likely suicide, body has been there long enough its hard to tell.
 
2021-10-16 9:06:38 AM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: Mental illness.  Likely suicide, body has been there long enough its hard to tell.


Suicide. There was a note written on PD stationery that said she couldnt take any more of her life of undefined secret crimes and thats why she decided to rape herself to death.
 
2021-10-16 9:10:36 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


When you turn 40
 
2021-10-16 9:10:39 AM  

thealgorerhythm: Pats_Cloth_Coat: Mental illness.  Likely suicide, body has been there long enough its hard to tell.

Suicide. There was a note written on PD stationery that said she couldnt take any more of her life of undefined secret crimes and thats why she decided to rape herself to death.


I heard she smoked a joint 15 years ago, which was clear indication of criminal tendencies. Probably trying to smear our boys in blue by killing herself in a police van. She was just that dedicated to making the police look bad.
 
2021-10-16 9:14:40 AM  

GreenSun: That's very strange. Let's say the girl snuck into the van just for fun, so why then was she unable to get out of it?


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2021-10-16 9:18:04 AM  
>> She also added that Christina had often visited the police department for help
>> and had previously called family members to pick her up there.
>> Police noted that she had been arrested for multiple nonviolent offenses over
>> the past eight years.

Girl sounds like Otis on The Andy Griffith Show.  Sounds like she gets blackout drunk and goes to the police department on her own.
 
2021-10-16 9:18:39 AM  

DerAppie: GreenSun: "We need some clarity, and Christina cannot speak for herself."

No shiat lol!

That's very strange. Let's say the girl snuck into the van just for fun, so why then was she unable to get out of it? They say it's an abandoned van, so probably one of those decommissioned vans that nobody cleans or pays attention to? Was the reason it's abandoned because it's malfunctioning and in this case, the problem was with the locks? The woman couldn't get out after sneaking in and maybe she died of hunger? Couldn't she have broken the windows?

Even in that situation, I don't think that an abandoned van can trap someone like that. It seems highly unlikely. Maybe the real story is that a bad cop locked her up in there and then forgot that she was even in there, and then nobody checked and she died hungry. This is probably more a case of a REAL bad cop doing his job badly or abusing his power.

It was not an "abandoned" van. It was an unused van on the police parking lot. The van has been used for prisoner, so it couldn't be opened from the inside.

For her to die of hunger or thirst she must have not had anything to eat or drink for days. Locked in a van. In a busy parking lot. Where everyone ignored the noise coming from the parked van. For days on end.


I'm not pretending to be familiar with that particular van/parking lot/city noise level.  She could have overdosed, been choked to death or any number of scenarios.  You were the one who jumped to starvation.

This is why we need the tape and an autopsy.
 
2021-10-16 9:21:28 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?


"It isn't." - J. Howard Marshall.
 
2021-10-16 9:32:15 AM  
It was a prank from the cops in the adjacent city......
 
2021-10-16 9:34:53 AM  

DerAppie: Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.

Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?


It's only a crazy conspiracy theory when those people do it.  When farkers do it, it's a legitimate theory that needs to be investigated.
 
2021-10-16 9:34:55 AM  
So if/when someome walks by at night and tags the van with "cops killed (victim name) and stashed the body in this van", police arent gonna have footage of who did it/how it happened?

/someone farked up somewhere, and theyre afraid of liability.
 
2021-10-16 9:35:48 AM  

Ker_Thwap: This is why we need the tape and an autopsy.


The tape has been released. She got in the van by herself, and, although she couldn't open the doors, she could open the windows and did so. It appears she could have exited through a window if she wanted to. She also tried to open the doors of a police car just before getting in the van.

I think someone already posted a link to the video, but here it is again.
 
2021-10-16 9:40:18 AM  

Missicat: Habitual Cynic: StoPPeRmobile: When did 29 become young?

You'll understand when you hit 45.

45 is young.


When you're 60.
 
2021-10-16 9:55:30 AM  

GreenSun: "We need some clarity, and Christina cannot speak for herself."

No shiat lol!

That's very strange. Let's say the girl snuck into the van just for fun, so why then was she unable to get out of it? They say it's an abandoned van, so probably one of those decommissioned vans that nobody cleans or pays attention to? Was the reason it's abandoned because it's malfunctioning and in this case, the problem was with the locks? The woman couldn't get out after sneaking in and maybe she died of hunger? Couldn't she have broken the windows?

Even in that situation, I don't think that an abandoned van can trap someone like that. It seems highly unlikely. Maybe the real story is that a bad cop locked her up in there and then forgot that she was even in there, and then nobody checked and she died hungry. This is probably more a case of a REAL bad cop doing his job badly or abusing his power.


A person could get trapped in a van, it's conceivable. It's pretty implausible she never made any attempts to draw attention (banging on the metal sides, rocking the van back and forth)
It takes days to starve, so its hard to believe she was stuck in an unused van in a parking lot that saw daily use, and no one noticed.
 
2021-10-16 9:57:01 AM  

DerAppie: Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.

Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?


Which also implies she didn't accidentally trap herself in there either for the same reasons.

She would almost certainly have to have been dead before she went in the van.
 
2021-10-16 10:15:41 AM  

farkinlovit: It was a prank from the cops in the adjacent city......


Like Agatha Christie's "The Body in the Library".

(A fellow finds a dead body and dumps it through the open library window of the local manor house in order to embarrass the snooty landowner.)
 
2021-10-16 10:26:53 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: DerAppie: Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.

Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?

Which also implies she didn't accidentally trap herself in there either for the same reasons.

She would almost certainly have to have been dead before she went in the van.


There's a more updated story, with video out there. My ad blockers are preventing that news site from giving my computer cancer, so I didn't watch it.  She apparently entered on her own. I don't think it answers all the questions, or explains why the police delayed releasing their version of the video, or what the cause of death is.

It might be more of a liability for leaving an unlocked death trap thing lying about, rather than actual murder.
 
2021-10-16 10:54:48 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: DerAppie: Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.

Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?

Which also implies she didn't accidentally trap herself in there either for the same reasons.

She would almost certainly have to have been dead before she went in the van.


India or Alabama. I always knew the zombie apocalypse would start in one of those two places.
 
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2021-10-16 11:00:59 AM  

GreenSun: "We need some clarity, and Christina cannot speak for herself."

No shiat lol!

That's very strange. Let's say the girl snuck into the van just for fun, so why then was she unable to get out of it? They say it's an abandoned van, so probably one of those decommissioned vans that nobody cleans or pays attention to? Was the reason it's abandoned because it's malfunctioning and in this case, the problem was with the locks? The woman couldn't get out after sneaking in and maybe she died of hunger? Couldn't she have broken the windows?

Even in that situation, I don't think that an abandoned van can trap someone like that. It seems highly unlikely. Maybe the real story is that a bad cop locked her up in there and then forgot that she was even in there, and then nobody checked and she died hungry. This is probably more a case of a REAL bad cop doing his job badly or abusing his power.


A coworker of mine used to drive a work-issue cargo van that had malfunctioning child safety locks, they'd engage themselves if you shut the doors too hard.  Since the back of the van had a metal bulkhead separating the cargo area from the passenger area, he actually managed to get himself locked in the back of his van once, had to call the helpdesk, to have the helpdesk call the site so the secretary could come out and open the door for him.

Additionally my '95 Impala SS, if you shut the rear doors too hard, will engage the child safety lock on the slammed door, and it won't open from the inside.

Furthermore I can entirely believe that a cargo van converted into a police paddy wagon would not open from the inside, because you specifically wouldn't want prisoners to be able to open the van, or for a police van that could be for a police team to use might still retain those child safety locks on the side and rear doors, so that if police need to lock someone inside they would be able to do so.  If it was a Chevy Express or GMC Savannah then this scenario where the locks can engage by accident is entirely plausible to me.

As to why the van was left unlocked, because no one thought to lock it, or because police vehicle maintenance mechanics left it unlocked so if they needed quick access they wouldn't have to go find the keys.  It would not surprise me if no one thought it being unlocked would be a problem, or if they even really thought about it at all.

I obviously have not reviewed footage, nor have I ever particularly read up on this police department, so there could well be other factors like human involvement that demonstrate some sort of malicious intent.  That said, if the parking lot shows that the woman appeared to find her way to the van, get inside, and fail to get out again, then it's plausible that it really was an accident, and that at-best the department as owners of the van are facing the same sort of claim of wrongful death due to negligence that anyone owning a vehicle that someone could get trapped inside of would face.
 
2021-10-16 11:01:35 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Ker_Thwap: This is why we need the tape and an autopsy.

The tape has been released. She got in the van by herself, and, although she couldn't open the doors, she could open the windows and did so. It appears she could have exited through a window if she wanted to. She also tried to open the doors of a police car just before getting in the van.

I think someone already posted a link to the video, but here it is again.


Correction, "a" tape has been released. Is it the actual surveillance video from that day? Who knows? Without an independent forensic analysis of the video, that snippet of grainy "could be anyone" footage isn't exactly concrete proof.
 
2021-10-16 11:04:28 AM  

big pig peaches: Natalie Portmanteau: DerAppie: Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.

Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?

Which also implies she didn't accidentally trap herself in there either for the same reasons.

She would almost certainly have to have been dead before she went in the van.

India or Alabama. I always knew the zombie apocalypse would start in one of those two places.


I didn't mean to imply that she went in the van under her own power.
 
2021-10-16 11:14:02 AM  
Did she have a cell phone with her when she died? That would pretty much rule out the accidentally trapped in the van scenario.
 
2021-10-16 11:18:48 AM  

big pig peaches: Natalie Portmanteau: DerAppie: Ker_Thwap: All kinds of scenarios occur to me.  Sex worker (not judging) or police informant.  Cops as clients.  They let her sleep in the back of the van, and their was an accidental door closing, being the kindest interpretation.  She got mouthy, and someone slammed the door on her, and left her to die.  There's some kind of professional relationship gone wrong.  Or at least it should have been a professional relationship.

The tapes need to be public.

Someone left her to die in a van on the police parking lot and hoped no one would hear her banging on the door/glass/whatever before she finally died? And then didn't clean the van out and just left it there for anyone to find?

That is a scenario that seems plausible enough to you to share here?

Which also implies she didn't accidentally trap herself in there either for the same reasons.

She would almost certainly have to have been dead before she went in the van.

India or Alabama. I always knew the zombie apocalypse would start in one of those two places.


I'm still betting on Ohio.
 
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