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2021-10-15 11:47:04 PM  
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2021-10-16 1:02:54 AM  
Oh, they care.  They care that it's been made public and the commoners are finding out about it.
 
2021-10-16 2:08:14 AM  
In case anyone is unaware (seems unlikely here), this country is rife with corruption.

/the USA seriously needs a house-cleaning
//Senate too
 
2021-10-16 2:15:06 AM  
Subby, SOTUS Judges do not need to be lawyers and are not controlled by a bar
 
2021-10-16 2:36:30 AM  
Well what are we going to do, really? Establish a firm code of ethics applying to all three branches with lasting and effective enforcement by... Oh, nope. That's probably not gonna' be easy either.

/I know a lot of us have our potentially-retired lives tied up in it, but sometimes I think a deep and lasting market crash could be a good thing in the long haul.
 
2021-10-16 2:36:33 AM  
Why do you guys think "The Bar" is god? The bar is a licensing agency in every state. Like the one that gives the certificate out to your barber.

//Nobody needs a license to be a federal judge.
//They serve FOR LIFE
 
2021-10-16 2:42:31 AM  
No its not legal, but there is no oversight for the SC in any way
 
2021-10-16 2:51:56 AM  
As America slouched into her final days, only the National Certification Board for Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork (NCBTMB) could save this great nation from itself.
 
2021-10-16 2:55:09 AM  
Recusal is voluntary, and there's no requirement to do so. The burden is on the parties to show owning stocks is likely to impact (or on appeal, did impact) the judge's ability to make an impartial ruling in the case.

And unless the case involved how dividends were paid out, it's a tough bar to clear. Stock ownership doesnt imply activity on the board.
 
2021-10-16 2:57:54 AM  
A common thread of all modern tyrannies is the utter nincompoopery of the mediocrities and buffoons comprising the "judiciary." Vasily Ulrikh. Roland Freisler.

Neal Goresuch.
 
2021-10-16 3:00:22 AM  
Wait...this wasn't common knowledge?

Don't look into the trades and holdings of our congresscritters either (including their spouses).
 
2021-10-16 3:05:20 AM  

Nullav: Well what are we going to do, really? Establish a firm code of ethics applying to all three branches with lasting and effective enforcement by... Oh, nope. That's probably not gonna' be easy either.

/I know a lot of us have our potentially-retired lives tied up in it, but sometimes I think a deep and lasting market crash could be a good thing in the long haul.


The great recessions of 08 and 2020 did literally nothing other than widen the gap between rich and poor. Unless you think there is only corruption in people making 300-1 million dollars a year, a market crash will not stop these robber barrons.

Gritty 2024
 
2021-10-16 3:06:38 AM  
'Murica.
 
2021-10-16 3:08:48 AM  
Since I became an adult and had $ explained to me, I've done nothing but invest in myself. I realized that no one is going to look after me, care about my self-interests (even as a straight white male) and we're all in this for ourselves. The system is rigged for the top, always will be and always will be. They all find a way to help themselves and step on those below them. It doesn't matter if it is a taxpayer or a colleague, a lot of these farkers will step and even stomp on those below them for a $.

US capitalism is a joke. It has empowered the few and rich to destroy the rest. Every day that goes by, the closer we are to a reckoning. I'm surprised it has not happened yet, but it will, and I don't mean some ol' fashioned boycotts and all that. At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

I'm happy just paying my taxes and don't want to see that day...but it's coming.

/dnrtha
 
2021-10-16 3:19:54 AM  

OhioUGrad: Since I became an adult and had $ explained to me, I've done nothing but invest in myself. I realized that no one is going to look after me, care about my self-interests (even as a straight white male) and we're all in this for ourselves. The system is rigged for the top, always will be and always will be. They all find a way to help themselves and step on those below them. It doesn't matter if it is a taxpayer or a colleague, a lot of these farkers will step and even stomp on those below them for a $.

US capitalism is a joke. It has empowered the few and rich to destroy the rest. Every day that goes by, the closer we are to a reckoning. I'm surprised it has not happened yet, but it will, and I don't mean some ol' fashioned boycotts and all that. At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

I'm happy just paying my taxes and don't want to see that day...but it's coming.

/dnrtha


Sucker. I shorted you
 
2021-10-16 3:39:06 AM  
What is the Bar?  A bunch of lawyers investigating themselves.

Of course it's corrupt subby you dunce!
 
2021-10-16 3:43:48 AM  

BlazeTrailer: OhioUGrad: Since I became an adult and had $ explained to me, I've done nothing but invest in myself. I realized that no one is going to look after me, care about my self-interests (even as a straight white male) and we're all in this for ourselves. The system is rigged for the top, always will be and always will be. They all find a way to help themselves and step on those below them. It doesn't matter if it is a taxpayer or a colleague, a lot of these farkers will step and even stomp on those below them for a $.

US capitalism is a joke. It has empowered the few and rich to destroy the rest. Every day that goes by, the closer we are to a reckoning. I'm surprised it has not happened yet, but it will, and I don't mean some ol' fashioned boycotts and all that. At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

I'm happy just paying my taxes and don't want to see that day...but it's coming.

/dnrtha

Sucker. I shorted you


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2021-10-16 3:46:07 AM  

misanthropicsob: Wait...this wasn't common knowledge?

Don't look into the trades and holdings of our congresscritters either including

friends and family

FTFY.
 
2021-10-16 3:55:21 AM  

LimpDickRicky: misanthropicsob: Wait...this wasn't common knowledge?

Don't look into the trades and holdings of our congresscritters either including friends and family

FTFY.


Not to mention no looking at where their friends and family get hired.
 
2021-10-16 4:27:49 AM  
How many of them were appointed by McConnell and the Federalist Society?
 
2021-10-16 4:53:42 AM  
Add me to the list mocking subby for thinking the bar has any role in policing judges.
 
2021-10-16 5:17:45 AM  
Wow. Government, how do you guys find the time to trade stocks between all of the civil asset forfeitures?
 
2021-10-16 5:27:08 AM  
Don't know about the bar, but Barr sure as fark didn't care.

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2021-10-16 5:35:59 AM  
Ever meet a poor judge? Of course not... who is gonna tell them no?
 
2021-10-16 6:35:25 AM  
Cesaro does not enjoy this thread
 
2021-10-16 6:36:42 AM  

lifeslammer: No its not legal, but there is no oversight for the SC in any way


Congress has oversight authority, they just don't exercise it.


moothemagiccow: //They serve FOR LIFE


"during good Behaviour"


OhioUGrad: At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.


It's no accident that the world is continually developing improved means by which a tiny number of people can control/kill a very large number. Capacity to protect billionaires is drastically outpacing any trend toward mass uprising.
 
2021-10-16 6:41:30 AM  
If only there was a mechanism to remove them.

Oh wait, there is. But, the concept that honest politicians would be able to remove Judges/Justices who have ruled specifically for their own self interest is ludicrous.

Even if empty land didn't mean more than people there would still be the profiteers in the Democrat party that don't see an issue with this.

And on the Republican side, find one who thinks this is an issue.
 
2021-10-16 6:59:34 AM  
How about we just stop with stocks all together?
 
2021-10-16 7:08:26 AM  
I think a single person can lead the nation of people better then a large group, to bad greed can trump benevolence, as we are seeing today
 
2021-10-16 7:11:30 AM  
Living out the wild west from the bench? Wait until they start doing the Godfather.
 
2021-10-16 7:14:19 AM  
It's a simple Free Market principle: Without the incentive to personally benefit from rulings, fewer people will want to be federal judges, resulting in a shortage.

Besides, if y'all libs don't like it, y'all can sue.

See? The system works
 
2021-10-16 7:17:30 AM  

NathanAllen: Even if empty land didn't mean more than people there would still be the profiteers in the Democrat party that don't see an issue with this.

And on the Republican side, find one who thinks this is an issue.


I'll bet at least one of those crooked judges is a Democrat, or was appointed by a Democrat.

Both sides are bad! You don't have to vote Republican, but definitely don't vote Democrat!
 
2021-10-16 7:18:34 AM  
Those judges all made calls if they might suffer from conflicts of interest, and decided that they'd be totes fine. Justice served. No investigation or questions needed, unless you'd like that question of your nephew's DUI resolved by someone who doesn't know you and your family too...
 
2021-10-16 7:22:11 AM  
I guess judges figure they get the title "Honorable" regardless of how they act...
 
2021-10-16 7:38:27 AM  
Alito thinks he's a god. Refuses to accept criticism or advice. Money, specifically Koch money, is his beacon.
 
2021-10-16 7:50:11 AM  

3rd world republipuke: Alito thinks he's a god. Refuses to accept criticism or advice. Money, specifically Koch money, is his beacon.


Money = Speech

He's a champion of Free Speech
 
2021-10-16 8:08:26 AM  

HansoSparxx: How about we just stop with stocks all together?


If the average American had the faintest idea of the criminality occurring in the stock market....

Well, then nothing, because the people of today no longer have the stomach our forefathers did for rails, tar and feathers.
 
2021-10-16 8:24:05 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Recusal is voluntary, and there's no requirement to do so. The burden is on the parties to show owning stocks is likely to impact (or on appeal, did impact) the judge's ability to make an impartial ruling in the case.

And unless the case involved how dividends were paid out, it's a tough bar to clear. Stock ownership doesnt imply activity on the board.


So their interests aren't conflicted *quite* enough for you to be bothered?  Or are you just being the excessively boring captain obvious who pops in to remind us that technically the society that we have built for ourselves is intractably broken while shrugging your shoulders abut it?
 
2021-10-16 8:26:26 AM  

HansoSparxx: How about we just stop with stocks all together?


Au contraire.  I saw we START with stocks, for once.

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2021-10-16 8:26:51 AM  
saw/say.  tomato/fark this shiat.
 
2021-10-16 8:28:35 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: lifeslammer: No its not legal, but there is no oversight for the SC in any way

Congress has oversight authority, they just don't exercise it.


moothemagiccow: //They serve FOR LIFE

"during good Behaviour"


OhioUGrad: At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

It's no accident that the world is continually developing improved means by which a tiny number of people can control/kill a very large number. Capacity to protect billionaires is drastically outpacing any trend toward mass uprising.


...drag...them...out?
 
2021-10-16 8:49:28 AM  

BeesNuts: Gyrfalcon: Recusal is voluntary, and there's no requirement to do so. The burden is on the parties to show owning stocks is likely to impact (or on appeal, did impact) the judge's ability to make an impartial ruling in the case.

And unless the case involved how dividends were paid out, it's a tough bar to clear. Stock ownership doesnt imply activity on the board.

So their interests aren't conflicted *quite* enough for you to be bothered?  Or are you just being the excessively boring captain obvious who pops in to remind us that technically the society that we have built for ourselves is intractably broken while shrugging your shoulders abut it?


It's a good thing that a judge's rulings from the bench and how they handle evidence and objections can't influence the outcome of a trial in any way.  Not during the trial, or after it's over.

Then again, no way does the trial outcome have any impact on things like stock prices.  It's not like the judge could manipulate things to assist in a pump and dump scenario and make money.

/yes sarcasm if you couldn't tell
//too many people can't tell
///sure the judge could have the decisions overruled on appeal, but the money has already been made and even more shows up when it's overturned.
 
2021-10-16 8:52:34 AM  

OhioUGrad: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: lifeslammer: No its not legal, but there is no oversight for the SC in any way

Congress has oversight authority, they just don't exercise it.


moothemagiccow: //They serve FOR LIFE

"during good Behaviour"


OhioUGrad: At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

It's no accident that the world is continually developing improved means by which a tiny number of people can control/kill a very large number. Capacity to protect billionaires is drastically outpacing any trend toward mass uprising.

...drag...them...out?


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2021-10-16 8:53:57 AM  
Ambition and greed.  That is what this society values over all else. This country was never perfect but we are living in an era of systemic corruption and rot.  I look at my kid and just feel tremendous anxiety about the world she will inherit.
 
2021-10-16 9:18:40 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: OhioUGrad: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: lifeslammer: No its not legal, but there is no oversight for the SC in any way

Congress has oversight authority, they just don't exercise it.


moothemagiccow: //They serve FOR LIFE

"during good Behaviour"


OhioUGrad: At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

It's no accident that the world is continually developing improved means by which a tiny number of people can control/kill a very large number. Capacity to protect billionaires is drastically outpacing any trend toward mass uprising.

...drag...them...out?

[Fark user image 498x278] [View Full Size image _x_]


Don't crush my dreams, dammit!
 
2021-10-16 9:37:56 AM  

Corvus: Subby, SOTUS Judges do not need to be lawyers and are not controlled by a bar


also, don't forget that SCOTUS vs other courts in particular, do not have to recuse themselves from nothing nohow, no matter how close a justice may be to a case.
 
2021-10-16 9:44:41 AM  
The Bar cares but WTF can the Bar do about it? It doesn't legislate or remove judges.
 
2021-10-16 9:46:38 AM  

OhioUGrad: Since I became an adult and had $ explained to me, I've done nothing but invest in myself. I realized that no one is going to look after me, care about my self-interests (even as a straight white male) and we're all in this for ourselves. The system is rigged for the top, always will be and always will be. They all find a way to help themselves and step on those below them. It doesn't matter if it is a taxpayer or a colleague, a lot of these farkers will step and even stomp on those below them for a $.

US capitalism is a joke. It has empowered the few and rich to destroy the rest. Every day that goes by, the closer we are to a reckoning. I'm surprised it has not happened yet, but it will, and I don't mean some ol' fashioned boycotts and all that. At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

I'm happy just paying my taxes and don't want to see that day...but it's coming.

/dnrtha


While I understand the sentiment the odds of it happening in the way you imagine are vanishingly small. The truly powerful have the ability to protect themselves from the mob. Like the rest of US history the ones that would be strung up would be the slightly well off minority.

McConnell, Carlson, Alito, Bezos, etc. would all be perfectly safe. The ones hanging from a tree or scaffolding in the town square would be the local restaurant or convenience store owners who may have a slightly nicer house or car and definitely have darker skin than the ones doing the lynching.
 
2021-10-16 9:47:33 AM  

OhioUGrad: Since I became an adult and had $ explained to me, I've done nothing but invest in myself. I realized that no one is going to look after me, care about my self-interests (even as a straight white male) and we're all in this for ourselves. The system is rigged for the top, always will be and always will be. They all find a way to help themselves and step on those below them. It doesn't matter if it is a taxpayer or a colleague, a lot of these farkers will step and even stomp on those below them for a $.

US capitalism is a joke. It has empowered the few and rich to destroy the rest. Every day that goes by, the closer we are to a reckoning. I'm surprised it has not happened yet, but it will, and I don't mean some ol' fashioned boycotts and all that. At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

I'm happy just paying my taxes and don't want to see that day...but it's coming.

/dnrtha


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2021-10-16 9:49:40 AM  

OhioUGrad: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: OhioUGrad: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: lifeslammer: No its not legal, but there is no oversight for the SC in any way

Congress has oversight authority, they just don't exercise it.


moothemagiccow: //They serve FOR LIFE

"during good Behaviour"


OhioUGrad: At some point, the wealthy and elite are going to be dragged from their beds and strung up on national TV.

It's no accident that the world is continually developing improved means by which a tiny number of people can control/kill a very large number. Capacity to protect billionaires is drastically outpacing any trend toward mass uprising.

...drag...them...out?

[Fark user image 498x278] [View Full Size image _x_]

Don't crush my dreams, dammit!


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