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(USA Today)   Remember that Marvel editor-in-chief who pretended to be Japanese until he got caught? Some people still do   (usatoday.com) divider line
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2021-10-14 6:35:11 AM  
Way to weebo, Mister-Manny.
 
2021-10-14 7:11:10 AM  
Leave Larry Hama alone!
 
2021-10-14 7:11:47 AM  
Well, that sound weird.
 
2021-10-14 7:23:24 AM  
Could have been a medical condition.
It's possible he caught The Vapors.
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2021-10-14 7:33:35 AM  
So if you publish under a pen name it has to be of one's "own" race or something?
 
2021-10-14 7:36:50 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: So if you publish under a pen name it has to be of one's "own" race or something?


First off, he was using the pen name to get around Marvel's rules about editors writing comics, which should have been a firing offense anyway.

And secondly, he was blatantly using his fake Japanese biography to gain a following and sell books. It was some skeezy shiat no matter how you slice it.
 
2021-10-14 7:42:52 AM  
Remember that other time a marvel editor used an Asian sounding pen name? It was some guy named Stanley Martin Lieber.
 
2021-10-14 7:44:49 AM  

Confabulat: ArcadianRefugee: So if you publish under a pen name it has to be of one's "own" race or something?

First off, he was using the pen name to get around Marvel's rules about editors writing comics, which should have been a firing offense anyway.

And secondly, he was blatantly using his fake Japanese biography to gain a following and sell books. It was some skeezy shiat no matter how you slice it.


See? Who needs to rtfa when you can get the whole thing summed up in two sentences?

/ thanks
 
2021-10-14 8:02:51 AM  
It's nice to see that there are still big enough assholes out there who every now and then can actually provide a real example of what cultural appropriation looks like, instead of the inconsequential bullshiat that gets labeled as such these days.
 
2021-10-14 8:19:27 AM  
Ken-Sama approves.

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2021-10-14 8:48:26 AM  

Confabulat: ArcadianRefugee: So if you publish under a pen name it has to be of one's "own" race or something?

First off, he was using the pen name to get around Marvel's rules about editors writing comics, which should have been a firing offense anyway.


That is a good point

And secondly, he was blatantly using his fake Japanese biography to gain a following and sell books. It was some skeezy shiat no matter how you slice it.

Isn't more messed up that it took a while to catch him?
 
2021-10-14 9:06:54 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Ken-Sama approves.

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Anyone who refers to themselves using an honorific like  "-sama" would be treated as pig ignorant in Japan.  You don't even use -san to talk about yourself.
 
2021-10-14 9:20:26 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Ken-Sama approves.

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2021-10-14 9:34:52 AM  
Complainer says the issue has not been "resolved". Maybe it has been resolved. Solved, even.
 
2021-10-14 9:56:31 AM  
no1curr
 
2021-10-14 10:25:35 AM  
I'm wondering why Disney hasn't dropped the other shoe.
 
2021-10-14 10:57:34 AM  

WelldeadLink: Complainer says the issue has not been "resolved". Maybe it has been resolved. Solved, even.


As Editor In Chief, he personally investigated and found himself innocent of any wrongdoing, and why you bringin up old shiat
 
2021-10-14 11:12:44 AM  

skippy.fluff: Garza and the Supermutants: Ken-Sama approves.

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Anyone who refers to themselves using an honorific like  "-sama" would be treated as pig ignorant in Japan.  You don't even use -san to talk about yourself.


Yep. That's part of the fun, along with a 27 year old wanting to get in to a Japanese high school. I'm 90% sure that someone made up the caption to take the piss out of weeaboos, but it's remotely possible that it was posted in earnest.

It's an old meme; "Ken-sama" is probably in his late 40's now, and hoping that people have forgotten about him.
 
2021-10-14 11:21:55 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: I'm 90% sure that someone made up the caption to take the piss out of weeaboos


Only 90% Did the 4chan post not give it away?
 
2021-10-14 11:55:52 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Yep. That's part of the fun, along with a 27 year old wanting to get in to a Japanese high school. I'm 90% sure that someone made up the caption to take the piss out of weeaboos, but it's remotely possible that it was posted in earnest.


https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ken-sa​m​a
 
2021-10-14 12:32:45 PM  
DeKnight said Cebulski's actions go beyond just using a pseudonym and took away potential roles for actual Asian writers.

So does Marvel have a hard cap on how many Asians they're allowed to hire? Otherwise this makes no sense to me.
 
2021-10-14 1:12:19 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Ken-Sama approves.

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You guys wanna tell him, or should I?
 
2021-10-14 1:43:11 PM  

mechgreg: Remember that other time a marvel editor used an Asian sounding pen name? It was some guy named Stanley Martin Lieber.


Yes, shortening the name Lieber (pronounced LEE-BURR) to just Lee so he wouldn't have to deal with anti-Semitic BS in the 1940's racist USA is EXACTLY the same as a man named Cebulski changing his name to Akira Yoshida and inventing an entirely fictional biography for Akira and writing and giving interviews as this fictional character. Totally the same.
 
2021-10-14 1:59:23 PM  

Confabulat: ArcadianRefugee: So if you publish under a pen name it has to be of one's "own" race or something?

First off, he was using the pen name to get around Marvel's rules about editors writing comics, which should have been a firing offense anyway.

And secondly, he was blatantly using his fake Japanese biography to gain a following and sell books. It was some skeezy shiat no matter how you slice it.


Getting around the employee policies is a problem and he should be fired for that.

The rest, he created a sock puppet, bfd. You would sort of expect that someone who could write anything decent would be able to create a character that is a little different then them.
 
2021-10-14 2:18:06 PM  

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2021-10-14 2:40:14 PM  
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2021-10-15 5:35:38 AM  
In 2017, Cebulski admitted he scripted various comics for Marvel under the guise of Yoshida. Before he rose to editor-in-chief, Cebulski worked under a position that didn't allow him to script or pitch any comics for Marvel. During this time, he created this persona of a Japanese man and published his work that way.

I can't help but think that if this had been a woman not allowed to script or pitch for the comics and she did so while using a male persona, people would be throwing awards at her and praising her from the mountain tops.
 
2021-10-15 6:58:26 AM  

Trik: In 2017, Cebulski admitted he scripted various comics for Marvel under the guise of Yoshida. Before he rose to editor-in-chief, Cebulski worked under a position that didn't allow him to script or pitch any comics for Marvel. During this time, he created this persona of a Japanese man and published his work that way.

I can't help but think that if this had been a woman not allowed to script or pitch for the comics and she did so while using a male persona, people would be throwing awards at her and praising her from the mountain tops.


That makes no sense. It's still against the rules.
 
2021-10-15 7:44:55 AM  

Confabulat: Trik: In 2017, Cebulski admitted he scripted various comics for Marvel under the guise of Yoshida. Before he rose to editor-in-chief, Cebulski worked under a position that didn't allow him to script or pitch any comics for Marvel. During this time, he created this persona of a Japanese man and published his work that way.

I can't help but think that if this had been a woman not allowed to script or pitch for the comics and she did so while using a male persona, people would be throwing awards at her and praising her from the mountain tops.

That makes no sense. It's still against the rules.


Why is there a rule that editors can't be writers? Aren't editors usually promoted from the writers ranks? Like you are good enough at your job to get promoted but you can't do the job that got you that promotion any more?
 
2021-10-15 10:01:24 AM  

mechgreg: Confabulat: Trik: In 2017, Cebulski admitted he scripted various comics for Marvel under the guise of Yoshida. Before he rose to editor-in-chief, Cebulski worked under a position that didn't allow him to script or pitch any comics for Marvel. During this time, he created this persona of a Japanese man and published his work that way.

I can't help but think that if this had been a woman not allowed to script or pitch for the comics and she did so while using a male persona, people would be throwing awards at her and praising her from the mountain tops.

That makes no sense. It's still against the rules.

Why is there a rule that editors can't be writers? Aren't editors usually promoted from the writers ranks? Like you are good enough at your job to get promoted but you can't do the job that got you that promotion any more?


You are thinking like it is a magazine or newspaper. Comics have a different structure. Comic writers and artists are virtually all free-lance and are paid by the page, while comic editors are direct employees of the publisher. (Marvel in this case)

It used to be common for Marvel editors used to write comics for other departments. However, it was so common that many editors were writing for other editors that it was viewed as corrupt, and when Joe Quesada became editor in chief in the late 90s, he passed a rule banning this practice. Later, this rule was cancelled and Akira Yoshida immediately disappeared. Since there were no pictures of Yoshida anywhere and he never appeared in public, it was widely speculated that he was a pseudonym for Cebulski like we know now.
 
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