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(AP News)   Was your car recalled so its dangerous Takata airbag inflator could be replaced with a safe American-made one? Yeah, about that   (apnews.com) divider line
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2021-10-13 11:40:05 PM  
Yay! More fun with my mechanic friends.

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2021-10-13 11:57:08 PM  
Well, Takata has been gone for a long time. The story says that x number of people were killed and x number were injured, but those are allegations. Takata lost the ability to defend itself as soon as the first suit started. The lawyers tell them to say nothing, the allegations mount, you get a few disgruntled employees, and it is all over. Takata was sold off to Bain Capital and chopped up, with some pieces taken over by a Chinese company, and others sold to American companies. And people can say anything they want because nobody is around to disagree.

But I am a connoisseur of JAPANIC. Toyota sudden acceleration, TEPCO and Fukushima, Takata.... the pattern gets repeated. There is a lot of sound and fury and the public winds up worse off than when it started.

To wit.

Here we have ARC, which apparently is using ammonium nitrate inflators, which is exactly what Takata had started to do before it identified troubles with that inflator material. But ARC is an AMERICAN company, so the NHTSA does not give a crap. Officials are already saying more people are going to die. But it is an AMERICAN company, so there is no forced recall, nobody saying, "HEY, we bankrupted a huge multibillion dollar maker of safety products for doing what this little Tennessee or Kentucky company is doing."

All you have to do is pay attention to see it. I don't think the Takata fiasco was justified, and it has left the entire auto industry with much worse quality control and sketchy suppliers doing a worse job than Takata. It was a shakedown of a Japanese company by a US government on the take. And Mitt Romney licked the plate.

Those 8 million ARC inflators are getting older every day. Tick tock.

/ you can kill a company with press, lawyers, disgruntled employees, or whatever. Regulators and politicians can hustle things along.
// even a company with no wrongdoing
/// it is super easy to do.
 
2021-10-14 12:09:17 AM  
I am sure that ARC has sold those 8 million inflators to US carmakers by being the low bidder.

And everyone is better off for it. Right?
 
2021-10-14 5:13:55 AM  
Pfft, airbags.
I'll stick with my '62 Corvair.
 
2021-10-14 6:17:10 AM  
*safe Tennesse-made one

/wait, why are you laughing
 
2021-10-14 9:03:21 AM  

2fardownthread: I am sure that ARC has sold those 8 million inflators to US carmakers by being the low bidder.

And everyone is better off for it. Right?


Made in murca has got to be good!!
 
2021-10-14 9:11:48 AM  

2fardownthread: Well, Takata has been gone for a long time. The story says that x number of people were killed and x number were injured, but those are allegations. Takata lost the ability to defend itself as soon as the first suit started. The lawyers tell them to say nothing, the allegations mount, you get a few disgruntled employees, and it is all over. Takata was sold off to Bain Capital and chopped up, with some pieces taken over by a Chinese company, and others sold to American companies. And people can say anything they want because nobody is around to disagree.

But I am a connoisseur of JAPANIC. Toyota sudden acceleration, TEPCO and Fukushima, Takata.... the pattern gets repeated. There is a lot of sound and fury and the public winds up worse off than when it started.

To wit.

Here we have ARC, which apparently is using ammonium nitrate inflators, which is exactly what Takata had started to do before it identified troubles with that inflator material. But ARC is an AMERICAN company, so the NHTSA does not give a crap. Officials are already saying more people are going to die. But it is an AMERICAN company, so there is no forced recall, nobody saying, "HEY, we bankrupted a huge multibillion dollar maker of safety products for doing what this little Tennessee or Kentucky company is doing."

All you have to do is pay attention to see it. I don't think the Takata fiasco was justified, and it has left the entire auto industry with much worse quality control and sketchy suppliers doing a worse job than Takata. It was a shakedown of a Japanese company by a US government on the take. And Mitt Romney licked the plate.

Those 8 million ARC inflators are getting older every day. Tick tock.

/ you can kill a company with press, lawyers, disgruntled employees, or whatever. Regulators and politicians can hustle things along.
// even a company with no wrongdoing
/// it is super easy to do.


Takata was a shiate company from the top down. I worked directly with them , as both a supplier and a customer, on quality issues.  I have never dealt with such terrible people. They deserve everything they got and then some.
 
2021-10-14 9:23:56 AM  
"The automaker said in a statement that the faulty front driver's air bag inflators were either installed at the factory or in replacement air bag modules."

Are air bags installed at any other times? Do people accessorize with extra air bags? Are people installing air bags in something other than cars?
 
2021-10-14 9:45:03 AM  

jack_o_the_hills: 2fardownthread: Well, Takata has been gone for a long time. The story says that x number of people were killed and x number were injured, but those are allegations. Takata lost the ability to defend itself as soon as the first suit started. The lawyers tell them to say nothing, the allegations mount, you get a few disgruntled employees, and it is all over. Takata was sold off to Bain Capital and chopped up, with some pieces taken over by a Chinese company, and others sold to American companies. And people can say anything they want because nobody is around to disagree.

But I am a connoisseur of JAPANIC. Toyota sudden acceleration, TEPCO and Fukushima, Takata.... the pattern gets repeated. There is a lot of sound and fury and the public winds up worse off than when it started.

To wit.

Here we have ARC, which apparently is using ammonium nitrate inflators, which is exactly what Takata had started to do before it identified troubles with that inflator material. But ARC is an AMERICAN company, so the NHTSA does not give a crap. Officials are already saying more people are going to die. But it is an AMERICAN company, so there is no forced recall, nobody saying, "HEY, we bankrupted a huge multibillion dollar maker of safety products for doing what this little Tennessee or Kentucky company is doing."

All you have to do is pay attention to see it. I don't think the Takata fiasco was justified, and it has left the entire auto industry with much worse quality control and sketchy suppliers doing a worse job than Takata. It was a shakedown of a Japanese company by a US government on the take. And Mitt Romney licked the plate.

Those 8 million ARC inflators are getting older every day. Tick tock.

/ you can kill a company with press, lawyers, disgruntled employees, or whatever. Regulators and politicians can hustle things along.
// even a company with no wrongdoing
/// it is super easy to do.

Takata was a shiate company from the top down. I worked directly with them , as both a supplier and a customer, on quality issues.  I have never dealt with such terrible people. They deserve everything they got and then some.


That guy has a weird, racist boner for anything Japanese. He claims to have lived there for years, but he doesn't speak the language and thinks they're an exotic race of stoic truth-tellers and perfect craftsmen. If the Japanese have a problem, the West tricked or otherwise cheated them. If they do something well, it's because of their mysterious and beautiful culture. They have no agency beyond what we give them.

Why yes, he is an old white man. Why do you ask?
 
2021-10-14 11:53:17 AM  

WelldeadLink: "The automaker said in a statement that the faulty front driver's air bag inflators were either installed at the factory or in replacement air bag modules."

Are air bags installed at any other times? Do people accessorize with extra air bags? Are people installing air bags in something other than cars?


Airbags replaced after a collision.
 
2021-10-14 1:31:09 PM  

Branniganslaw: WelldeadLink: "The automaker said in a statement that the faulty front driver's air bag inflators were either installed at the factory or in replacement air bag modules."

Are air bags installed at any other times? Do people accessorize with extra air bags? Are people installing air bags in something other than cars?

Airbags replaced after a collision.


Those would be the "replacement air bag modules" mentioned above, yes?
 
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