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2021-10-13 7:17:45 PM  
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2021-10-13 7:26:01 PM  
Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?
 
2021-10-13 7:29:49 PM  

gopher321: Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?


They're investigating the beheading of DOJ in Trump's attempt to be dictator for life, in case his armed insurrection failed. But that's not important right now
 
2021-10-13 7:45:23 PM  
Since he hasn't been beheaded yet on live television yet, you can be rest assured that 'nuthin gonna happen.

/that was easy
//welcome to nuFark
///I'll show myself out
 
2021-10-13 7:46:00 PM  
I talked to Neguse last weekend and he said he and a few others were drawing up a House rule for using the inherent contempt power to detain people that fail to comply with a subpoena. Really hoping they vote on it when they return to session.
 
2021-10-13 7:49:21 PM  
I said yet twice. I like yet.
 
2021-10-13 7:50:39 PM  
Clark drafted materials to overturn the elections in six states. I hop he says he was just following orders.
 
2021-10-13 8:06:59 PM  
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2021-10-13 8:43:42 PM  

SplittingAces: I said yet twice. I like yet.


I just forgot Kansas City was in Missouri, so that's how my night is going.

/been there three times!
//apparently I need weed to keep the stupid at bay
 
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2021-10-13 8:48:41 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: I just forgot Kansas City was in Missouri, so that's how my night is going.


I think we just found TFG's Fark handle.
 
2021-10-13 8:57:58 PM  

SplittingAces: Since he hasn't been beheaded yet on live television yet, you can be rest assured that 'nuthin gonna happen.

/that was easy
//welcome to nuFark
///I'll show myself out


Schiff said earlier on MSNBC that they will be pushing criminal contempt of Congress charges against anyone who defies their subpoenas - so I guess these farkheads will be the DOJ's problem
 
2021-10-13 9:02:54 PM  

jbc: Squid_for_Brains: I just forgot Kansas City was in Missouri, so that's how my night is going.

I think we just found TFG's Fark handle.


Gimme a Sharpie.
 
2021-10-13 9:09:54 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: SplittingAces: I said yet twice. I like yet.

I just forgot Kansas City was in Missouri, so that's how my night is going.

/been there three times!
//apparently I need weed to keep the stupid at bay


If you are in Missouri, you can be forgiven for wanting to forget that fact.
 
2021-10-13 9:10:15 PM  
His other option would be to refuse to appear on Capitol Hill, leading to contempt proceedings.

Better hope those proceedings turn into charges and then a conviction before January 2023, because all he has to do is run out the clock until Republicans take back the House and the entire investigation goes away like a miracle.
 
2021-10-13 9:11:24 PM  

eurotrader: I talked to Neguse last weekend and he said he and a few others were drawing up a House rule for using the inherent contempt power to detain people that fail to comply with a subpoena. Really hoping they vote on it when they return to session.


Inherent contempt is the best contempt.  I do hope they affix it accordingly.
 
2021-10-13 9:11:56 PM  
I hope they ask him a question or two about his weird angry Muppet eyebrows.

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2021-10-13 9:13:44 PM  

somedude210: gopher321: Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?

They're investigating the beheading of DOJ in Trump's attempt to be dictator for life, in case his armed insurrection failed. But that's not important right now


So it's like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, but worse and somehow stupider? This whole drama just keeps getting better and better!
 
2021-10-13 9:16:07 PM  
Trust me citizen nothing's gonna happen by the way have you heard of cryptocurrencies?
 
2021-10-13 9:16:40 PM  

Notabunny: Clark drafted materials to overturn the elections in six states. I hop he says he was just following orders.


User name is sus.
 
2021-10-13 9:22:02 PM  

maram500: somedude210: gopher321: Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?

They're investigating the beheading of DOJ in Trump's attempt to be dictator for life, in case his armed insurrection failed. But that's not important right now

So it's like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, but worse and somehow stupider? This whole drama just keeps getting better and better!


Far worse and far stupider. Nixon at least had some small justification not wanting to  turn over WH records to the Kennedy government-in-waiting in Hyannisport. It wrong and illegal but at least had a certain internal consistency.

This shiat was just farking dumb.

And treasonous.
 
2021-10-13 9:25:54 PM  
For me, the litmus test is going to be Bannon. He's going to make a huge display of ignoring his subpoena and making the department come and get him. Then, and only then, will we see if they have the brass to do it, or if we're still just playing with our dicks.
 
2021-10-13 9:26:26 PM  
Maddow is covering this as we speak. It appears he went to work for a typical RWNJ org but was whacked and has sounded.
 
2021-10-13 9:27:58 PM  
When do we get to the part where they decide to skip all of the middle guys and subpoena TFG ??
 
2021-10-13 9:32:16 PM  

Space Banana Physicist: maram500: somedude210: gopher321: Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?

They're investigating the beheading of DOJ in Trump's attempt to be dictator for life, in case his armed insurrection failed. But that's not important right now

So it's like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, but worse and somehow stupider? This whole drama just keeps getting better and better!

Far worse and far stupider. Nixon at least had some small justification not wanting to  turn over WH records to the Kennedy government-in-waiting in Hyannisport. It wrong and illegal but at least had a certain internal consistency.

This shiat was just farking dumb.

And treasonous.


Wait, wat?  Hyannisport, Kennedys?  I, um, don't think the Saturday Night massacre was about that.  Unless I'm missing something it was entirely about Nixon trying to cover his crooked ass from potential legal exposure.
 
2021-10-13 9:33:40 PM  
I was reading something somewhere today where the person was talking about Trump and his drive to get re-elected and stay in power, and all his authoritarian tendencies...yet every time he really pushes things he fails and looks really stupid.

I mean the guy is truly a failure.
 
2021-10-13 9:34:10 PM  

mikalmd: When do we get to the part where they decide to skip all of the middle guys and subpoena TFG ??


what does TFG stand for?  Somehow I missed this. I know it refers to Trump, but that's it.
 
2021-10-13 9:37:16 PM  

monsatano: SplittingAces: Since he hasn't been beheaded yet on live television yet, you can be rest assured that 'nuthin gonna happen.

/that was easy
//welcome to nuFark
///I'll show myself out

Schiff said earlier on MSNBC that they will be pushing criminal contempt of Congress charges against anyone who defies their subpoenas - so I guess these farkheads will be the DOJ's problem


I hope he can do what he wants. I saw the Maddow interview with him about his new book and he fully understands what is going on. He was involved with a spy case on the third try (90s - convicted) and was fully schooled on Russian recruitment tactics and see what they are doing.

That man has layers. Like an onion.
 
2021-10-13 9:41:11 PM  

Mike_1962: Space Banana Physicist: maram500: somedude210: gopher321: Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?

They're investigating the beheading of DOJ in Trump's attempt to be dictator for life, in case his armed insurrection failed. But that's not important right now

So it's like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, but worse and somehow stupider? This whole drama just keeps getting better and better!

Far worse and far stupider. Nixon at least had some small justification not wanting to  turn over WH records to the Kennedy government-in-waiting in Hyannisport. It wrong and illegal but at least had a certain internal consistency.

This shiat was just farking dumb.

And treasonous.

Wait, wat?  Hyannisport, Kennedys?  I, um, don't think the Saturday Night massacre was about that.  Unless I'm missing something it was entirely about Nixon trying to cover his crooked ass from potential legal exposure.


Almost nothing in this country's political life is what it looks like on TV. Yes, of course, the whole schmear was Nixon trying to cover his ample arse. But perhaps not quite in the way most people understood at the time (or in the intervening decades).

But everyone - Nixon most of all - simply knew Teddy was up next and would beat Tricky Dick like a rented mule. His martyred brothers virtually guaranteed it. There's a reason he ordered Cox not to seek any more records.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archi​b​ald_Cox
 
2021-10-13 9:41:42 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: mikalmd: When do we get to the part where they decide to skip all of the middle guys and subpoena TFG ??

what does TFG stand for?  Somehow I missed this. I know it refers to Trump, but that's it.


That F**king Guy.

It's all he F**king deserves.
 
2021-10-13 9:44:07 PM  
You don't understand; these are the nerds. The rule of law is all they have. If the jocks take that away, the beat down commences. They will fight to the last nerd for it.
 
2021-10-13 9:47:08 PM  

Space Banana Physicist: not wanting to  turn over WH records to the Kennedy government-in-waiting in Hyannisport.


Da fuq?
 
2021-10-13 9:48:22 PM  

freakay: I was reading something somewhere today where the person was talking about Trump and his drive to get re-elected and stay in power, and all his authoritarian tendencies...yet every time he really pushes things he fails and looks really stupid.

I mean the guy is truly a failure.


And we elected him...
 
2021-10-13 9:48:43 PM  

SplittingAces: I said yet twice. I like yet.


Yet I didn't feel that you overused it.
 
2021-10-13 9:50:16 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: I hope they ask him a question or two about his weird angry Muppet eyebrows.

[Fark user image 425x318]


He looks exactly like you'd expect him to look
 
2021-10-13 9:51:29 PM  

eurotrader: I talked to Neguse last weekend and he said he and a few others were drawing up a House rule for using the inherent contempt power to detain people that fail to comply with a subpoena. Really hoping they vote on it when they return to session.


I was hoping they'd have contempt consequences ready to go for when these asshats inevitably try to dodge the subpoenas. Or would it be more of a vote to form a committee to hand-wring over whether or not to enforce the subpoenas?
 
2021-10-13 9:51:31 PM  

Space Banana Physicist: Mike_1962: Space Banana Physicist: maram500: somedude210: gopher321: Major development - J6 committee is investigating DOJ coup along with insurrection.

What's that mean?

They're investigating the beheading of DOJ in Trump's attempt to be dictator for life, in case his armed insurrection failed. But that's not important right now

So it's like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, but worse and somehow stupider? This whole drama just keeps getting better and better!

Far worse and far stupider. Nixon at least had some small justification not wanting to  turn over WH records to the Kennedy government-in-waiting in Hyannisport. It wrong and illegal but at least had a certain internal consistency.

This shiat was just farking dumb.

And treasonous.

Wait, wat?  Hyannisport, Kennedys?  I, um, don't think the Saturday Night massacre was about that.  Unless I'm missing something it was entirely about Nixon trying to cover his crooked ass from potential legal exposure.

Almost nothing in this country's political life is what it looks like on TV. Yes, of course, the whole schmear was Nixon trying to cover his ample arse. But perhaps not quite in the way most people understood at the time (or in the intervening decades).

But everyone - Nixon most of all - simply knew Teddy was up next and would beat Tricky Dick like a rented mule. His martyred brothers virtually guaranteed it. There's a reason he ordered Cox not to seek any more records.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archib​ald_Cox


Wow, I thought I heard all the dumbest conspiracies involving the Kennedys but you just go ahead and put your pants on your head.

Teddy was a drunk and a womanizer (who didn't hide it like John). He had waaaaay too many skeletons in his closet to go against Nixon.

Also, Nixon was farking term limited. He couldn't run for president again in 76. Christ are you dumb
 
2021-10-13 9:52:27 PM  

somedude210: freakay: I was reading something somewhere today where the person was talking about Trump and his drive to get re-elected and stay in power, and all his authoritarian tendencies...yet every time he really pushes things he fails and looks really stupid.

I mean the guy is truly a failure.

And we elected him...


Well. Maybe.
 
2021-10-13 9:52:27 PM  

HerptheDerp: For me, the litmus test is going to be Bannon. He's going to make a huge display of ignoring his subpoena and making the department come and get him. Then, and only then, will we see if they have the brass to do it, or if we're still just playing with our dicks.


Gotta go on the record and agree here. He is the big catfish in this stagnant pond.

/we all know they are bottom feeders
//he is the one who haunts the divers at the dam
///this slashie left blank
 
2021-10-13 9:52:32 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: mikalmd: When do we get to the part where they decide to skip all of the middle guys and subpoena TFG ??

what does TFG stand for?  Somehow I missed this. I know it refers to Trump, but that's it.


I think it was The Former Guy when it was first coined, but That F***ing Guy is also fully cromulent.
 
2021-10-13 9:53:20 PM  

Chompachangas: eurotrader: I talked to Neguse last weekend and he said he and a few others were drawing up a House rule for using the inherent contempt power to detain people that fail to comply with a subpoena. Really hoping they vote on it when they return to session.

I was hoping they'd have contempt consequences ready to go for when these asshats inevitably try to dodge the subpoenas. Or would it be more of a vote to form a committee to hand-wring over whether or not to enforce the subpoenas?


I think the committee just votes to issue charges. And with only two Republicans on the committee, both of whom seem more than happy to filed contempt of Congress charges, there should be a unanimous vote to approve.

Then whoever enforces it goes out and arrests Bannon and the others
 
2021-10-13 9:54:54 PM  

freakay: somedude210: freakay: I was reading something somewhere today where the person was talking about Trump and his drive to get re-elected and stay in power, and all his authoritarian tendencies...yet every time he really pushes things he fails and looks really stupid.

I mean the guy is truly a failure.

And we elected him...

Well. Maybe.


We did. I don't think there was anything hinky in the vote counts. However micro targeted propaganda based on the psychological profiles of specific voters absolutely turned the tide.

And we have CamAnal, Russia, and the Mercers to thank for that shiat
 
2021-10-13 9:59:43 PM  

somedude210: Chompachangas: eurotrader: I talked to Neguse last weekend and he said he and a few others were drawing up a House rule for using the inherent contempt power to detain people that fail to comply with a subpoena. Really hoping they vote on it when they return to session.

I was hoping they'd have contempt consequences ready to go for when these asshats inevitably try to dodge the subpoenas. Or would it be more of a vote to form a committee to hand-wring over whether or not to enforce the subpoenas?

I think the committee just votes to issue charges. And with only two Republicans on the committee, both of whom seem more than happy to filed contempt of Congress charges, there should be a unanimous vote to approve.

Then whoever enforces it goes out and arrests Bannon and the others


Here's to hoping. That MF Bannon is dangerous and probably a foreign asset. I hope his arrest is painful and trauma.
 
2021-10-13 10:00:43 PM  

mikalmd: When do we get to the part where they decide to skip all of the middle guys and subpoena TFG ??


I would got for the giraffe and her hubby first. TFG** would just lie and fidget and 'oh, my glasses' and all his old tricks.

But get the zoo in. They know every detail (because they helped plan it) and would be glorious. Make it public or not. Either way the fireworks would be really fun to watch.

Remember, the giraffe is his main squeeze...
 
2021-10-13 10:08:05 PM  
I freely admit to farking up the date in my head - Watergate stretched on for a while and somehow I thought the Saturday Night Massacre occurred in '72 with four-part harmony and full orchestration. Stipulated: I farked that up badly.

I stand by the rest of it though. You know, now, Teddy wasn't gonna run. I know it. No one at the time knew it. I don't think Kennedy himself knew it until Carter's mind-blowing Georgia Law Day speech.

And Cox was no normal former US Solicitor General; he was an arch-Kennedyite if you will excuse the clumsy phrase. (Why Richardson tapped him to be Special Prosecutor remains a bit of a mystery to me.) But the fact remains: Anything turned over to Cox would have found its way into the hands of the Kennedys. Quickly.

I'm not defending Nixon. I'm saying there was more to that episode than meets the eye. It was corrupt and illegal. But it had a reasonableness that this latter episode lacked. It wasn't, for example, part of a coup d'etat. Forget I said anything, if it makes you feel better.
 
2021-10-13 10:13:35 PM  
Why hasn't Bill Barr been subpoenaed?
Y'know what would be fun?  Serve him, get him under oath, then ask him nothing but Epstein-related questions.
 
2021-10-13 10:14:13 PM  

Space Banana Physicist: I freely admit to farking up the date in my head - Watergate stretched on for a while and somehow I thought the Saturday Night Massacre occurred in '72 with four-part harmony and full orchestration. Stipulated: I farked that up badly.

I stand by the rest of it though. You know, now, Teddy wasn't gonna run. I know it. No one at the time knew it. I don't think Kennedy himself knew it until Carter's mind-blowing Georgia Law Day speech.

And Cox was no normal former US Solicitor General; he was an arch-Kennedyite if you will excuse the clumsy phrase. (Why Richardson tapped him to be Special Prosecutor remains a bit of a mystery to me.) But the fact remains: Anything turned over to Cox would have found its way into the hands of the Kennedys. Quickly.

I'm not defending Nixon. I'm saying there was more to that episode than meets the eye. It was corrupt and illegal. But it had a reasonableness that this latter episode lacked. It wasn't, for example, part of a coup d'etat. Forget I said anything, if it makes you feel better.


You should take your own advice. This is cuckoo crazypants stuff here
 
2021-10-13 10:15:24 PM  

somedude210: Chompachangas: eurotrader: I talked to Neguse last weekend and he said he and a few others were drawing up a House rule for using the inherent contempt power to detain people that fail to comply with a subpoena. Really hoping they vote on it when they return to session.

I was hoping they'd have contempt consequences ready to go for when these asshats inevitably try to dodge the subpoenas. Or would it be more of a vote to form a committee to hand-wring over whether or not to enforce the subpoenas?

I think the committee just votes to issue charges. And with only two Republicans on the committee, both of whom seem more than happy to filed contempt of Congress charges, there should be a unanimous vote to approve.

Then whoever enforces it goes out and arrests Bannon and the others


It might be different with this admin but didn't the SC say they couldn't enforce them because there is no law saying they can? Or was that more fog from the others?

So my question is .... is this still questionable territory or can they actually enforce it? At this point I have not. clue.
 
2021-10-13 10:16:10 PM  

saturn badger: It might be different with this admin but didn't the SC say they couldn't enforce them because there is no law saying they can?


When did this happen?
 
2021-10-13 10:21:54 PM  
I'm going to wait for a consequence of substance before I believe that a congressional subpoena is anything other than an amusing anecdote they can hang on their office walls.
 
2021-10-13 10:24:01 PM  

Space Banana Physicist: I freely admit to farking up the date in my head - Watergate stretched on for a while and somehow I thought the Saturday Night Massacre occurred in '72 with four-part harmony and full orchestration. Stipulated: I farked that up badly.

I stand by the rest of it though. You know, now, Teddy wasn't gonna run. I know it. No one at the time knew it. I don't think Kennedy himself knew it until Carter's mind-blowing Georgia Law Day speech.

And Cox was no normal former US Solicitor General; he was an arch-Kennedyite if you will excuse the clumsy phrase. (Why Richardson tapped him to be Special Prosecutor remains a bit of a mystery to me.) But the fact remains: Anything turned over to Cox would have found its way into the hands of the Kennedys. Quickly.

I'm not defending Nixon. I'm saying there was more to that episode than meets the eye. It was corrupt and illegal. But it had a reasonableness that this latter episode lacked. It wasn't, for example, part of a coup d'etat. Forget I said anything, if it makes you feel better.


Dude, put the bong down.

And I say this as a stoner and stoner advocate.

That's just crazy stupid
 
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