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(Hong Kong Free Press)   Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls what University of Hong Kong students learn about what happened in Tiananmen Square in the past   (hongkongfp.com) divider line
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2021-10-08 5:19:09 PM  
As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.
 
2021-10-08 8:18:01 PM  
Death is but a door, time is but a window... I'LL BE BACK
 
2021-10-08 8:18:49 PM  
Good thing that could never happen here.

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2021-10-08 8:20:33 PM  
What is that all about? Afraid to click link.

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2021-10-08 8:24:04 PM  
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2021-10-08 8:26:01 PM  
Honestly.

What did you think was going to happen?

This is how autocrats work.
 
2021-10-08 8:29:41 PM  
I can't find it now, but there was a story of a chinese censor that was supposed to keep shiat the PRC didnt want published out of the newspapers, he got in trouble when he let a few 'in memoriams' about tiananmen through

only because he had never heard of it
 
2021-10-08 8:30:21 PM  
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2021-10-08 8:40:28 PM  
Best no one in the US cast stones towards China for this.
 
2021-10-08 8:42:48 PM  
and the cameraman swapt the film out and a dummy was confiscated

/yeah phot151
//film took ours to devel0p
 
2021-10-08 8:46:05 PM  

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2021-10-08 8:49:23 PM  
Every year, on the anniversary of June 3/4, the foreign media networks that get carried on Chinese cable networks (such as the overseas broadcasts of NHK) which attempt a reporting segment on Tiananmen square get yanked for the duration of the segment. The screen goes black and silent for a few minutes. It's a bit creepy.
 
2021-10-08 9:03:42 PM  

lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.


On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.
 
2021-10-08 9:09:22 PM  
What the artist who owns it should do is remove it, so the Chinese cannot destroy it, then have it tour art museums throughout the world while speaking of the massacre. Kind of how they do with other artifacts. This would give it much more exposure than in Hong Kong, and troll the Chinese authoritarian government.

Or put it in Taiwan to really yank China's chain.
 
2021-10-08 9:09:57 PM  

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I get massive nerves even thinking about standing in that spot. That guy had huge brass knockers.
 
2021-10-08 9:10:07 PM  

namegoeshere: Best no one in the US cast stones towards China for this.


F*ck that. I am opposed when the Chinese government does it and I am opposed when the US government does it, too. I am not morally restricted here.
 
2021-10-08 9:10:46 PM  
It's weird that Xi Jinping is taking inspiration for how to run China from Kim Jong-un.
 
2021-10-08 9:19:41 PM  

Befuddled: It's weird that Xi Jinping is taking inspiration for how to run China from Kim Jong-un.


You mean they both learned from Stalin
 
2021-10-08 9:22:38 PM  

ReaverZ: lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.

On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.


In public.
 
2021-10-08 9:25:17 PM  
All you need is one.....

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2021-10-08 9:27:08 PM  

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I get massive nerves even thinking about standing in that spot. That guy had huge brass knockers.


The government found him by the clanking sound they made when he walked.
 
2021-10-08 9:33:51 PM  

lindalouwho: ReaverZ: lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.

On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.

In public.


People do not talk about it in public.
 
2021-10-08 9:37:42 PM  

ReaverZ: lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.

On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.


In the US there has been a lot of this happening about our history and most recently about jan 6.
 
2021-10-08 9:38:18 PM  

ReaverZ: lindalouwho: ReaverZ: lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.

On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.

In public.

People do not talk about it in public.


That's what I said.
At home is sometimes another story when kids are older.
 
2021-10-08 9:46:31 PM  
The pillar of shame is also the name of my penis.
 
2021-10-08 10:05:13 PM  

ongbok: In the US there has been a lot of this happening about our history and most recently about jan 6.


Notice how you're talking about January 6 right now and aren't afraid that it will be deleted by government censors when they send you to a reeducation camp?

Not the same thing.
 
2021-10-08 10:27:49 PM  
I had a professor in college who had to balls to ask a few Chinese exchange students for their thoughts on Taiwan once. They got so tense compared to how they normally were before they began spouting "There is one China" like it was a trick and if they stepped out of line Mao would burst through the wall like the Kool aid man.
 
2021-10-08 11:09:21 PM  

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You are a man of culture I see.
 
2021-10-08 11:52:53 PM  
Can't we put a satellite over them and just keep shooting video or news at them?  I know that's simplistic.
 
2021-10-08 11:55:15 PM  

lindalouwho: ReaverZ: lindalouwho: ReaverZ: lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.

On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.

In public.

People do not talk about it in public.

That's what I said.
At home is sometimes another story when kids are older.


Ah, I missed understood. Most don't even talk about it in private. Now in particular. While it was/is a historical event, there are a number of factors to contribute to it did not personally touching most lives.

I am thinking about it in comparison to the Kent State Protests (my father, MILKTOASTMAN actual took over his deans office and talked about it once in my life), BLM protests, Ferguson, the French Labor-Wage protest. How often do they come up in "average-everyday" life for "average-everyday" person?

/ It probably come out to, more people talk about it than we think but not as much as we would hope
 
2021-10-08 11:58:20 PM  

BMFPitt: ongbok: In the US there has been a lot of this happening about our history and most recently about jan 6.

Notice how you're talking about January 6 right now and aren't afraid that it will be deleted by government censors when they send you to a reeducation camp?

Not the same thing.


Not for a lack of trying

/ Texas has a bounty for reporting people helping women get abortions
// not the same but definitely in the same category of bad
 
2021-10-09 12:03:28 AM  

ReaverZ: lindalouwho: ReaverZ: lindalouwho: ReaverZ: lindalouwho: As if the real information hasn't been passed down by most of their elders.

On the mainland, they have done a pretty good job of making it disappear, not be talked about or making it come off like a version of the Jan 6 coup.

In public.

People do not talk about it in public.

That's what I said.
At home is sometimes another story when kids are older.

Ah, I missed understood. Most don't even talk about it in private. Now in particular. While it was/is a historical event, there are a number of factors to contribute to it did not personally touching most lives.

I am thinking about it in comparison to the Kent State Protests (my father, MILKTOASTMAN actual took over his deans office and talked about it once in my life), BLM protests, Ferguson, the French Labor-Wage protest. How often do they come up in "average-everyday" life for "average-everyday" person?

/ It probably come out to, more people talk about it than we think but not as much as we would hope


You can't compare things that are general knowledge to Chinese suppression of knowledge.

Let's just agree that neither of us really knows what most Chinese people talk about in private.
 
2021-10-09 12:07:48 AM  

ReaverZ: Not for a lack of trying


What is a thing that was tried?

/ Texas has a bounty for reporting people helping women get abortions
// not the same but definitely in the same category of bad


Unless that category is as broad as "things which are bad" then not in the same category, either.
 
2021-10-09 12:27:00 AM  
lindalouwho:

You can't compare things that are general knowledge to Chinese suppression of knowledge.

Yes, we can but it would not be a good comparison. Those were things that popped into my head, as example of personal connection to how much you talk about them, not meant as "they are the same". Kind of thinking out loud.

Let's just agree that neither of us really knows what most Chinese people talk about in private.

你好。But it is a large country, with a large population, so yeah talking about "the Chinese people" is not easy. That would not include the people who know but refuse to talk about it.
 
2021-10-09 12:53:03 AM  
Here in the USA we have Fox, Sinclair, Oan, Qanon, etc to distort everything. And no elders passing down the correct information.
:(
 
2021-10-09 2:09:36 AM  
You know, this heavy handed communist memory hole thing is... clumsy, isn't it?

China needs to get some Madison Ave. K street types to spin their stuff for them.

They will figure it out one of these days. And we will know they have because then the truth will be the clumsy version and the non-truth will be embraced by the elites and Hollywood.
 
2021-10-09 9:43:39 AM  
 
2021-10-09 5:42:47 PM  

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I get massive nerves even thinking about standing in that spot. That guy had huge brass knockers.


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Tiananmen will really bake your noodle. It is huge. The largest public square in the world by any measurement. Last time I was there - leaving aside the with-an-attractive-stranger shenanigans in the mausoleum of Mao Tse-tung, pictured above - I went to, more or less, that spot and you are right: It will give you the willies, the fits and the heebie-jeebies.

There are (or were; it's been three years or so) direly armed checkpoints with ID scans and baggage X-ray into the area. For the Chinese, I mean. Yours truly and every other gawking Martian they just wave through.

Weird place.
 
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