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(American Military News)   Boy, you would think nonstop sexual abuse and sending troops to take down BLM protesters would have no effect on military recruitment of women and POC   (americanmilitarynews.com) divider line
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2021-09-28 4:33:39 PM  
So a larger percentage will be Proud Boys and other supremacists, is that supposed to be a good thing?
 
2021-09-28 6:56:19 PM  

EvilEgg: So a larger percentage will be Proud Boys and other supremacists, is that supposed to be a good thing?


They would say so.
 
2021-09-28 6:58:53 PM  
We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?
 
2021-09-28 7:00:34 PM  
PB pussies would make the crying nazi look like an Ironman. They ain't joining.
 
2021-09-28 7:01:22 PM  
Ha. I grew up in Pearl Harbor and can tell you that sluggish military recruitment has been a problem for a looong time. Most of my friends and neighbors on base housing were immigrants recruited in their home countries with the promise of US citizenship for themselves and their dependents.

Its not a new thing.
 
2021-09-28 7:02:57 PM  
I don't suppose that being in a long term, no win, war had anything to do with it all.
/none at all.
 
TWX
2021-09-28 7:04:09 PM  
Why should someone feel a desire to join a military of a country that runs roughshod over their rights and the rights of others in their community whose only demerits are traits that are entirely beyond their control?
 
2021-09-28 7:04:54 PM  

EvilEgg: So a larger percentage will be Proud Boys and other supremacists, is that supposed to be a good thing?


If the proud boy recruits can make it through the vaccinations.
 
2021-09-28 7:05:26 PM  

EvilEgg: So a larger percentage will be Proud Boys and other supremacists, is that supposed to be a good thing?


Yeah, that was my first thought too.  It's probably an inevitable consequence, but even still, it perpetuates the problem.  Plus, the drop in recruitment has consequences in other areas too:  I knew a Black woman in college who stated in no uncertain terms that she joined so they would pay for college (she also had some "interesting" stories about her work processing dead bodies and times they outright told her to not ask too many questions about a given corpse's conditions, but that's another story).  That's far from an uncommon situation, and I'm curious what effect this drop in minority recruitment now might have in minority college enrollment down the line.
 
2021-09-28 7:06:12 PM  

Ragin' Asian: We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?


The Air Force isn't a gang. It's more like a book club.
 
2021-09-28 7:06:52 PM  
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2021-09-28 7:07:08 PM  

TWX: Why should someone feel a desire to join a military of a country that runs roughshod over their rights and the rights of others in their community whose only demerits are traits that are entirely beyond their control?


VA and GI bill are very popular.
 
2021-09-28 7:07:46 PM  

Ragin' Asian: We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?


They show up for Basic Training, and there's no breakdancing or beatboxing AT ALL....Nothing like those recruiting films

"We're the US Air Force and we're here to say / We're gonna get you high the aeronautical way
Give you jumpsuits and shave your heads / 'Cause Uncle Sam ain't down with the dreads
Teach ya flying, and landing, too / At the end of the day, a bowl of beef stew
All you can eat, but eat all you take / And get lots of sleep, for goodness sake
WORRRRRRRDDDDD"
 
TWX
2021-09-28 7:09:09 PM  

ng2810: Ha. I grew up in Pearl Harbor and can tell you that sluggish military recruitment has been a problem for a looong time. Most of my friends and neighbors on base housing were immigrants recruited in their home countries with the promise of US citizenship for themselves and their dependents.

Its not a new thing.


For my own perspective, I had no interest in joining the military because I had no interest in someone shouting at me, denigrating me, or ordering me to do unnecessary, stupid shiat for no good reason.  I had no interest in painting rocks or cleaning barracks with toothbrushes or anything like that.
 
2021-09-28 7:12:44 PM  
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Also, that website is terrible.
 
2021-09-28 7:14:17 PM  

TWX: ng2810: Ha. I grew up in Pearl Harbor and can tell you that sluggish military recruitment has been a problem for a looong time. Most of my friends and neighbors on base housing were immigrants recruited in their home countries with the promise of US citizenship for themselves and their dependents.

Its not a new thing.

For my own perspective, I had no interest in joining the military because I had no interest in someone shouting at me, denigrating me, or ordering me to do unnecessary, stupid shiat for no good reason.  I had no interest in painting rocks or cleaning barracks with toothbrushes or anything like that.


That's understandable. On the other hand, the problem with not joining the military because of those reasons is that you end up going all the way through life without ever learning that the military is nothing like what you seem to think it is.
 
2021-09-28 7:14:45 PM  
"the share of eligible youth who reported they have an interest in military service has dropped about two percent overall in the last couple of years"

They should start a special program aimed at young people. They can teach kids the importance of Republican values. Maybe give them pseudo-military uniforms and streamline them into full military service.
 
2021-09-28 7:19:54 PM  

Chemlight Battery: TWX: ng2810: Ha. I grew up in Pearl Harbor and can tell you that sluggish military recruitment has been a problem for a looong time. Most of my friends and neighbors on base housing were immigrants recruited in their home countries with the promise of US citizenship for themselves and their dependents.

Its not a new thing.

For my own perspective, I had no interest in joining the military because I had no interest in someone shouting at me, denigrating me, or ordering me to do unnecessary, stupid shiat for no good reason.  I had no interest in painting rocks or cleaning barracks with toothbrushes or anything like that.

That's understandable. On the other hand, the problem with not joining the military because of those reasons is that you end up going all the way through life without ever learning that the military is nothing like what you seem to think it is.


That's not a problem. That's a feature. The less I have to do with the military, the better.
 
2021-09-28 7:22:16 PM  
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2021-09-28 7:23:34 PM  
Two percent ? Not newsworthy.
 
2021-09-28 7:26:26 PM  
Muhammad Ali - On Vietnam, hardships, & The True Opposer & Enemy of Justice
Youtube gqOE2zTlg3E
 
2021-09-28 7:26:41 PM  
The Air Force is the most demanding when it comes to the quality of recruits, a high ASVAB score is needed get into the Air Force.   Women or minorities that can achieve such a high score on the ASVAB typically have other options in life that don't require calculating the bomb load needed to obliterate a village full of poor illiterate dirt farmers in a third world country.
 
2021-09-28 7:29:53 PM  
I would advise my daughters to avoid joining the US military, even if they were going in as a commissioned or warrant officer.  Much like civilian police forces, there just isn't enough independent oversight or accountability, and that seems be the way they like it.  Last thing I'd want to see is my daughter being raped, being unable to obtain justice, and then never totally recovering from the experience.  Fark that.
 
2021-09-28 7:30:28 PM  

Fissile: The Air Force is the most demanding when it comes to the quality of recruits, a high ASVAB score is needed get into the Air Force.   Women or minorities that can achieve such a high score on the ASVAB typically have other options in life that don't require calculating the bomb load needed to obliterate a village full of poor illiterate dirt farmers in a third world country.


Or working with fanatical white Christain nationalists who are likely to attack them at some point.
 
2021-09-28 7:31:31 PM  
That's a feature not a bug
 
2021-09-28 7:31:36 PM  

TWX: I had no interest in joining the military because I had no interest in someone shouting at me, denigrating me, or ordering me to do unnecessary, stupid shiat for no good reason.


And yet, here you are on Fark

/kidding!
 
2021-09-28 7:32:15 PM  
I mean, from the military fascist farm perspective
 
2021-09-28 7:35:10 PM  
It's been a problem for a while.  Not just in recruitment but in advancement opportunity after entering the military.  I can primarily speak from a Navy perspective but it has gotten better over the years but still needs a lot of work.
Navy report on diversity issues and recommendations
 
2021-09-28 7:40:40 PM  

UltimaCS: Thanks to AmericanMilitaryNews.com, I managed to summarize America with a single screenshot.
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I got a lot of ads aimed at criminal charges for Ilhan Omar. Like an ad between every paragraph. Kind of thing about the demographic they serve.
 
2021-09-28 7:41:04 PM  
Was the Air Force involved in taking down BLM protesters? I must have missed that story. But certainly a winning angle for a greenlight here on Fark.
 
2021-09-28 7:42:27 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 850x440]


The only actual Liberal Presidents we have had in the last 70 years have been Ike and Carter.
 
TWX
2021-09-28 7:45:30 PM  

Chemlight Battery: TWX: ng2810: Ha. I grew up in Pearl Harbor and can tell you that sluggish military recruitment has been a problem for a looong time. Most of my friends and neighbors on base housing were immigrants recruited in their home countries with the promise of US citizenship for themselves and their dependents.

Its not a new thing.

For my own perspective, I had no interest in joining the military because I had no interest in someone shouting at me, denigrating me, or ordering me to do unnecessary, stupid shiat for no good reason.  I had no interest in painting rocks or cleaning barracks with toothbrushes or anything like that.

That's understandable. On the other hand, the problem with not joining the military because of those reasons is that you end up going all the way through life without ever learning that the military is nothing like what you seem to think it is.


Everyone that I have personally known who was current or former military was able to regale me of tails of BS from basic training, of drill sergeants that were complete and utter assholes to recruits because that is what was expected of those sergeants.

One guy here on Fark even described how he was given a special 'treat' for his birthday when the sergeant learned of it, made to do even more demeaning grunt work for no real purpose.

Sorry if you think my impression of the military is poor or wrong, but this is what I've gathered from people I've personally known who joined.

/never saw Full Metal Jacket
//or Apocalypse Now!
///so opinions are not based solely on media portrayals of basic training
 
TWX
2021-09-28 7:48:51 PM  

johnny_vegas: TWX: I had no interest in joining the military because I had no interest in someone shouting at me, denigrating me, or ordering me to do unnecessary, stupid shiat for no good reason.

And yet, here you are on Fark

/kidding!


No one makes me paint rocks and I can walk away from the shouting and denigration at my choosing.

And I can denigrate right back in return.
 
2021-09-28 7:49:50 PM  

El_Dan: Was the Air Force involved in taking down BLM protesters?


I wish.
 
2021-09-28 7:53:39 PM  

Bertuccio: "the share of eligible youth who reported they have an interest in military service has dropped about two percent overall in the last couple of years"

They should start a special program aimed at young people. They can teach kids the importance of Republican values. Maybe give them pseudo-military uniforms and streamline them into full military service.


JROTC and the other junior recruitment schemes are exactly that, actually...
 
2021-09-28 7:56:39 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 850x440]


And to think he was the Republican president during the "glory years" the modern GOP wants to return this country to (the modern GOP also considers Ike to have been a RINO).
 
2021-09-28 7:59:02 PM  

Unknown Subject: El_Dan: Was the Air Force involved in taking down BLM protesters?

I wish.


fark off, Fascist.
 
2021-09-28 7:59:44 PM  
I would comment, but I work with these people. So, no comment.
 
2021-09-28 8:01:32 PM  

Unknown Subject: El_Dan: Was the Air Force involved in taking down BLM protesters?

I wish.


Then we'd have been hearing about highly trained antifa squads defeating the chair force.
 
2021-09-28 8:04:13 PM  

Billy Liar: Ragin' Asian: We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?

They show up for Basic Training, and there's no breakdancing or beatboxing AT ALL....Nothing like those recruiting films

"We're the US Air Force and we're here to say / We're gonna get you high the aeronautical way
Give you jumpsuits and shave your heads / 'Cause Uncle Sam ain't down with the dreads
Teach ya flying, and landing, too / At the end of the day, a bowl of beef stew
All you can eat, but eat all you take / And get lots of sleep, for goodness sake
WORRRRRRRDDDDD"


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2021-09-28 8:08:03 PM  
I recently purchased a dictionary wherein I found the following entry, I presume headline writer has the same one.


correlation

cor·re·la·tion

noun.

1. The action of causing something.
2. The relationship of cause and effect.

"Correlation and causation are always the same"
 
2021-09-28 8:12:24 PM  

proteus_b: I recently purchased a dictionary wherein I found the following entry, I presume headline writer has the same one.


correlation

cor·re·la·tion

noun.

1. The action of causing something.
2. The relationship of cause and effect.

"Correlation and causation are always the same"


If you're going to go that route with it, at least go with a good quote:

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
Youtube HL_vHDjG5Wk
 
2021-09-28 8:18:00 PM  

maudibjr: TWX: Why should someone feel a desire to join a military of a country that runs roughshod over their rights and the rights of others in their community whose only demerits are traits that are entirely beyond their control?

VA and GI bill are very popular.


The military has a vested interest in college not being free.
 
2021-09-28 8:20:06 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Fissile: The Air Force is the most demanding when it comes to the quality of recruits, a high ASVAB score is needed get into the Air Force.   Women or minorities that can achieve such a high score on the ASVAB typically have other options in life that don't require calculating the bomb load needed to obliterate a village full of poor illiterate dirt farmers in a third world country.

Or working with fanatical white Christain nationalists who are likely to attack them at some point.


This. Rape and assault rates in the military are abhorrent.

It's insane that the military apparently feels no need to improve themselves to attract enlisters. It feels very "No one wants to work any more."
 
2021-09-28 8:26:11 PM  

farker99: I don't suppose that being in a long term, no win, war had anything to do with it all.
/none at all.


NO! It's the Patriarchy.
 
2021-09-28 8:26:18 PM  
You would think people would want to learn to shoot back.
 
2021-09-28 8:28:21 PM  

austerity101: It's insane that the military apparently feels no need to improve themselves to attract enlisters. It feels very "No one wants to work any more."


This is demonstrably incorrect
 
2021-09-28 8:30:13 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Ragin' Asian: We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?

The Air Force isn't a gang. It's more like a book club.


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TWX
2021-09-28 8:40:06 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Chemlight Battery: Ragin' Asian: We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?

The Air Force isn't a gang. It's more like a book club.

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The Air Force is the only branch where the bulk of the actual fighting is done by officers rather than the enlisted.
 
2021-09-28 8:45:20 PM  

TWX: StoPPeRmobile: Chemlight Battery: Ragin' Asian: We've been spending decades trying to prevent POC from joining gangs and now the Air Force is annoyed POC aren't joining theirs?

The Air Force isn't a gang. It's more like a book club.

[i.insider.com image 850x637]

The Air Force is the only branch where the bulk of the actual fighting is done by officers rather than the enlisted.


Sounds like Air Force enlisted are pretty smart.
 
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