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(AZ Capitol Times)   Arizona is so addicted to growth it wants a shot of that sweet sweet Mississippi River right in the vein   (azcapitoltimes.com) divider line
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2021-09-28 10:39:34 AM  
Who thought farming in Arizona was a good idea?
 
2021-09-28 10:41:03 AM  
If you use $1 of federal money for this... gonna have problems.
 
2021-09-28 10:48:20 AM  
I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer
 
2021-09-28 10:54:27 AM  
Farmers, who used 72% of Arizona's water supply for agricultural purposes in 2019, are among the most affected by intense droughts...

Good, keep letting them be affected until they stop trying to farm in Arizona.  The state has allowed 3/4s of its water get wasted on an industry that has no business being there in the first place.
 
2021-09-28 11:00:36 AM  
Hoping that was satire otherwise republicans really are some of the stupidest people on earth.
 
2021-09-28 11:07:03 AM  
Right now, the prevailing idea is that if they can comodify the Colorado River, they can simply buy up all the rights along the river and transfer those rights and that water to those communities in the center of the state. They would destroy the ecosystem of the river to keep building more subdivisions, along side those farms, in the center of the state.

I warned one of the Deans of ASU's Earth and Space program 3 1/2 years ago that they would suck that river dry. He laughed at me. Pinal County is desperately trying to keep doing  business as usual *cough* I mean 'not' do business as usual. Yeah, that's what they meant.
 
2021-09-28 11:12:04 AM  
Nadie_AZ: one of the Deans of ASU's Earth and Space program ... laughed at me.

To be fair, he probably won that position in a game of beer pong.
 
2021-09-28 11:28:10 AM  
An east-west pipeline would be good.  By the time it is built, the climate will change changed again, and water logged Arizona can send water the other way  to the deserts of Missouri and Ohio.
 
2021-09-28 11:39:16 AM  
How about this: Arizona can have as much water as it wants, provided:

1. They pay Mexico to put in a giant-ass pipeline from the Gulf of California to very big desalinization plants in southwestern Arizona.

2. All desalinization plants must be powered by solar farms in southwestern Arizona.

3. The federal government will necessarily be involved in the international negotiations, but Arizona gets to figure out how to pay for it, whether through taxes or utility bills for people who use the water.

Surely nobody will have a problem with this?
 
2021-09-28 11:43:47 AM  
Water gallons should be pegged at the price of gasoline.  It's about time the northern states get rich.
 
2021-09-28 11:44:34 AM  

johnryan51: Water gallons should be pegged at the price of gasoline.  It's about time the northern states get rich.


Suddenly, my post Taco Bell three flush dumps just got very expensive.
 
2021-09-28 11:47:02 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: How about this: Arizona can have as much water as it wants, provided:

1. They pay Mexico to put in a giant-ass pipeline from the Gulf of California to very big desalinization plants in southwestern Arizona.

2. All desalinization plants must be powered by solar farms in southwestern Arizona.

3. The federal government will necessarily be involved in the international negotiations, but Arizona gets to figure out how to pay for it, whether through taxes or utility bills for people who use the water.

Surely nobody will have a problem with this?


That would be awesome. Personally I'd prefer they go in with California. Build the plants in San Diego, AZ brings the electrical power, and both states keep growing their almonds or whatever.
 
2021-09-28 11:48:12 AM  

dv-ous: Martian_Astronomer: How about this: Arizona can have as much water as it wants, provided:

1. They pay Mexico to put in a giant-ass pipeline from the Gulf of California to very big desalinization plants in southwestern Arizona.

2. All desalinization plants must be powered by solar farms in southwestern Arizona.

3. The federal government will necessarily be involved in the international negotiations, but Arizona gets to figure out how to pay for it, whether through taxes or utility bills for people who use the water.

Surely nobody will have a problem with this?

That would be awesome. Personally I'd prefer they go in with California. Build the plants in San Diego, AZ brings the electrical power, and both states keep growing their almonds or whatever.


So Business As Usual? Yeah, that's a good idea.
 
2021-09-28 11:50:06 AM  

MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer


Technically, you don't have to get it to Phoenix, you just have to get it over the Continental Divide.
 
2021-09-28 12:09:49 PM  
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A very though examination.  Spoiler: There's not enough water.
 
2021-09-28 12:54:21 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: How about this: Arizona can have as much water as it wants, provided:

1. They pay Mexico to put in a giant-ass pipeline from the Gulf of California to very big desalinization plants in southwestern Arizona.

2. All desalinization plants must be powered by solar farms in southwestern Arizona.

3. The federal government will necessarily be involved in the international negotiations, but Arizona gets to figure out how to pay for it, whether through taxes or utility bills for people who use the water.

Surely nobody will have a problem with this?


You don't want to pipe salt water. Desalinization needs to be done at the source.
 
2021-09-28 12:57:30 PM  

MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer


Still shorter than Keystone and no proponent had a problem paying for that.
 
2021-09-28 1:00:38 PM  
I know who could supply them with plenty of water...

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2021-09-28 1:28:16 PM  
Our nation can't complete ambitious infrastructure projects anymore so this isn't a worry.
 
2021-09-28 1:28:28 PM  
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2021-09-28 1:28:45 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Farmers, who used 72% of Arizona's water supply for agricultural purposes in 2019, are among the most affected by intense droughts...

Good, keep letting them be affected until they stop trying to farm in Arizona.  The state has allowed 3/4s of its water get wasted on an industry that has no business being there in the first place.


Maybe...JUST maybe...They could stop with that IDIOTIC corn/soy/wheat rotation?  Maybe actually use some decent soil management practices?  Maybe even compost and plant a few trees to mitigate erosion and high winds?
 
2021-09-28 1:29:16 PM  

MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer


You know, that's a really good idea.

/ I am a civil engineer, but I have no idea what the relative cost would be; I just want to see the rockets.
 
2021-09-28 1:29:25 PM  
Here's an idea, stop growing rice and alfalfa in the damn desert!
 
2021-09-28 1:29:25 PM  
It's nice to see that Arizona is finally willing to work to break through what's dividing this nation.
 
2021-09-28 1:31:13 PM  

GardenWeasel: MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer

Still shorter than Keystone and no proponent had a problem paying for that.


That's also downhill, and a fraction of the volume.
 
2021-09-28 1:31:52 PM  
Pretty soon, we're going to need moisture vaporators. But not before we go to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters....
 
2021-09-28 1:31:53 PM  

OdradekRex: Who thought farming in Arizona was a good idea?


You can import water. You cannot import sunshine and warm weather.  Check out how Arizona ranks in agriculture. Example: in the midwest you get maybe 4 cuttings of alfalfa if you are lucky each year. Arizona... 7
 
2021-09-28 1:32:15 PM  

BitwiseShift: An east-west pipeline would be good.  By the time it is built, the climate will change changed again, and water logged Arizona can send water the other way  to the deserts of Missouri and Ohio.


Ohio will actually likely get wetter as more warmth brings more moisture up from the Gulf into the Ohio valley. This isn't necessarily a good thing as extra moisture at the start and end of the growing season can significantly hamper farm operations and many crops at the end of the season actually need dry weather in order to keep them from rotting in storage.
 
2021-09-28 1:32:16 PM  

OdradekRex: Who thought farming in Arizona was a good idea?


The Hohokam, Pueblo, Tohono O'odam, Pima, etc?
 
2021-09-28 1:32:24 PM  
The elevation of Minneapolis is 200 ft below Phoenix so I see a pretty big obstacle there.  St. Louis is 600 ft below.
 
2021-09-28 1:32:35 PM  
What a brilliant idea!

Here's a better one:

MOVE YOU FARKING LUNATICS!
 
2021-09-28 1:34:44 PM  
Since the rise of the earliest cities, humankind has known that the solution to more frequent droughts, exhausted aquifers, and a steadily more arid environment is to keep growing and bringing in more and more people. That's why Arizona's future is so bright.

/The monument to mankind's arrogance will truly be grand
 
2021-09-28 1:34:57 PM  
It'll be a dry 132°F heat.
 
2021-09-28 1:35:06 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer

You know, that's a really good idea.

/ I am a civil engineer, but I have no idea what the relative cost would be; I just want to see the rockets.


Oh yeah, well I'm a rocket scientist and the cost isn't the issue as much the feasibility since we'd still have to ship water to those tools on the moon. And stop trying to make your problems my problems. Damn CEs.
 
2021-09-28 1:35:22 PM  
Cut Arizona off of water from ANY OTHER STATE. Quit throwing water into the desert. Watch the boomers disappear. Two birds one stone.
 
2021-09-28 1:35:24 PM  
Desalinization.
 
2021-09-28 1:35:32 PM  
Water that would have to be treated first to remove sediment to keep from clogging the pipes, not mention, you know, 1400 miles of pipes/pumps.

Get together with Cali and start building desal stations. They're gonna need them too. Then you don't have to pipe it so far and it's already treated. Otherwise, thoughts and prayers for rain.
 
2021-09-28 1:35:40 PM  

Rapmaster2000: The elevation of Minneapolis is 200 ft below Phoenix so I see a pretty big obstacle there.  St. Louis is 600 ft below.


But I'm told that with prayer, anything is possible. Can God make water run uphill or not?
 
2021-09-28 1:36:15 PM  
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Bet it would be cheaper to build desalination plant in California.
 
2021-09-28 1:36:19 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: [pictures.abebooks.com image 326x500]
A very though examination.  Spoiler: There's not enough water.


An excellent if depressing book.
 
2021-09-28 1:36:21 PM  
Extreme drought is soon to be the norm.  With occasional dips into exceptional drought, which also soon enough will become the new norm.  But keep telling yourself you can just keep expanding and pouring more water down that drain.

And Arizonians won't care how they get the water.  They'll just want someone to get it for them.
 
2021-09-28 1:36:55 PM  

Destructor: Desalinization.


They should build the plant on their ocean front property.
 
2021-09-28 1:37:04 PM  

Negligible: Madman drummers bummers: MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer

You know, that's a really good idea.

/ I am a civil engineer, but I have no idea what the relative cost would be; I just want to see the rockets.

Oh yeah, well I'm a rocket scientist and the cost isn't the issue as much the feasibility since we'd still have to ship water to those tools on the moon. And stop trying to make your problems my problems. Damn CEs.


Let 'em mine it from the South Pole-Aitken basin. Do I have to think of everything around here?
 
2021-09-28 1:37:19 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: What a brilliant idea!

Here's a better one:

MOVE YOU FARKING LUNATICS!


You can't move land, and:

Farmers, who used 72% of Arizona's water supply for agricultural purposes in 2019, are among the most affected by intense droughts

so if we just said move, that would mean losing the farmland. And if we lost the farmland without moving the people, that would require only 30% of the water they currently use. So moving isn't even really necessary.
 
2021-09-28 1:37:47 PM  

Destructor: Desalinization.


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2021-09-28 1:41:20 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: [pictures.abebooks.com image 326x500]
A very though examination.  Spoiler: There's not enough water.


and that book is over 30 years old at this point.
 
2021-09-28 1:42:34 PM  

OdradekRex: Who thought farming in Arizona was a good idea?


People in the widwest and upper east coast that like fresh veggies in Jan.
 
2021-09-28 1:44:30 PM  
Bill Maher is on this almost every week. To him, the East Coast gets a lot of flooding and the West keeps dealing with droughts.

AZ gets a bad rap in threads like this from people who don't know jack shiat about AZ and what is grown here, or for how long these things were successfully grown here without any issues. Not everything that grows out of the ground needs rain water every week. Also I'm sure that over the last few decades greed has caused some things to be grown here that should not be.
 
2021-09-28 1:44:55 PM  

Negligible: Madman drummers bummers: MrBallou: I can't find any part of the Mississippi that is less than 1,400 miles from Phoenix by the most direct route.

IANACE*, but I'm pretty sure you could put the population of Phoenix on the moon for less than a pipeline that long would cost.

*I Am Not A Civil Engineer

You know, that's a really good idea.

/ I am a civil engineer, but I have no idea what the relative cost would be; I just want to see the rockets.

Oh yeah, well I'm a rocket scientist and the cost isn't the issue as much the feasibility since we'd still have to ship water to those tools on the moon. And stop trying to make your problems my problems. Damn CEs.


Who said anything about shipping them water on the moon? They're smart. Those Moonazonans are smart. They'll figure it out.
 
2021-09-28 1:44:59 PM  
wxboy: 137 Is An Excellent Time: What a brilliant idea!

Here's a better one:

MOVE YOU FARKING LUNATICS!

You can't move land, and:

Farmers, who used 72% of Arizona's water supply for agricultural purposes in 2019, are among the most affected by intense droughts

so if we just said move, that would mean losing the farmland. And if we lost the farmland without moving the people, that would require only 30% of the water they currently use. So moving isn't even really necessary.

Is losing farmland that wasn't farmland to begin with really farmland?
 
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