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2021-09-28 1:25:31 AM  
Used a stick through the attacking dog's collar and twisted it like a tourniquet choking it off the smaller dog's neck. Walk your dog softly and carry a big stick.
 
2021-09-28 1:35:03 AM  
Our boy's paw was grabbed through our fence by a neighbor dog today - the dogs were in separate yards, separated by a 5 ft., tight, cedar plank fence. Neighbor dog, known to our dog, latched on our dog's paw from under the fence and would not let go.
Our boy's paw is mangled from teeth and from being pulled through the fence. He tried to chew through the fence to get himself free. We were there from the start and nothing short of strong-arming the other dog's jaws open would release our pup (and even that was extremely difficult - we tried every trick in the linked article, even the ones they advise against).

Neighbors are good.
Neighbor's dog is good.
Our dog is an angel (seriously, that's what's killing us the most. Our dog literally would not hurt a fly. Our dog protects baby bunnies, no joke.)

Has this happened to you - an unintentional, improbable violent interaction? How'd it go? Is your dog ok?

How did you comfort your dog through their injuries? Any behavioral changes in your dog after? If yes, how did you resolve?

How did the human interaction go? Was it civil? Was it reasonable?

These pups are all such good boys and girls. It is so terrible when something like this happens.

/I want to kill the other dog
//no, not really
///well, sorta
////but no
//seriously, no


//but yes
 
2021-09-28 4:21:47 AM  
Oh I have a good story about that.  My dog was attacked by three big dogs, and I got right in the middle of it.  I sustained numerous bites and cuts and puncture wounds, (I was wearing shorts and sandals).  My dog?  She escaped and was fine--an Australian shepherd, so not only was she  mean, but she  had that big ruff of fur around her neck, so it's hard to bite her.
I have scars all over my hands, legs, arms, and a few on my face, even.
I just went into a panic and waded in.  I'd just moved to a new town and I thought my dog was going to be killed.
 
2021-09-28 4:31:24 AM  
Gonna go negative here... Read the link before clicking because it's pretty self explanatory

https://kcby.com/news/local/da-office​r​-shot-killed-dog-that-fatally-injured-​myrtle-point-woman-in-front-of-her-kid​s

I drop that because in the recent past some consternation has occurred in past threads.

Know what your (or their) dog's aggression level is. There are some people who cause this, but remember, they may not be the caregiver of a dog at any given moment. In this particular tragedy, third-hand caregivers (when the original owner handed off what was apparently already considered a hazard) suffer the ultimate consequences.
 
2021-09-28 4:48:56 AM  
My Westie was attacked, unprovoked, by a large Lassie-sized collie that was off its lead while we were out walking.  Bit him around the back of his neck and started shaking him,  I yelled at the collie's owner, who was about 50 yards away, to control his dog.  The man just laughed.

So I dived in and grabbed the collie's collar and lifted it off the ground to chest height.  He dropped my Westie in the process, who was still on his lead that was looped around my wrist.  The collie now started snarling and snapping at me - the collie's owner still not responding.

It was time to remind this collie who was the alpha dog right now - me.  I slammed the collie on the ground on its back and straddled it, put my hands around its neck firmly and pinned him down hard, got right in its face and yelled "NO!" as loudly as I could.  That did the trick, but I kept him pinned down and under my control until it looked away from me and became submissive.

Now the owner was running towards me, yelling obscenities, but I stayed on his dog.  It ended up that he called the police on me, who were thankfully about two minutes away.  He got prosecuted for failing to control his dog and I got compensated for the vet costs for my baby's minor injuries - although it affected him for years.

In short in these situations - be the bad-ass scary alpha dog yourself in these extreme situations and if possible, pin down the offending dog until it submits.
 
2021-09-28 5:08:49 AM  
If your dog was attacked, you're gonna need a trainer in order to help the dog deal with the emotional trauma of being attacked. If it happened on leash, expect a lot of issues to come up simply with going on walks or going outside, or even just getting the leash on. There will probably be new reactive behaviors that weren't there before.
 
2021-09-28 5:41:10 AM  

Only You Can See This: In short in these situations - be the bad-ass scary alpha dog yourself in these extreme situations and if possible, pin down the offending dog until it submits.


That probably works better when one is not a little old lady.

My dog (80#s) was attacked by a larger dog on a beach.  The other dog had a leash on, but had pulled away from his owner.  We stopped the fight by dragging the dogs into deep water. Once they had to swim, they lost interest in fighting.  Had this happened anywhere else, I think the dogs would have had to settle it.
 
2021-09-28 5:53:48 AM  

Gramma: That probably works better when one is not a little old lady.


You haven't see the little old ladies in my neck of the woods:

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/your results may vary
//your pets are at risk if you set fire to them
///slashies
 
2021-09-28 6:00:16 AM  
vinegar on a rag, grab collar firmly, and movie-esque choloroforming technique.

both dogs bolt at ridiculous speed.
 
2021-09-28 7:06:10 AM  

question_dj: If your dog was attacked, you're gonna need a trainer in order to help the dog deal with the emotional trauma of being attacked. If it happened on leash, expect a lot of issues to come up simply with going on walks or going outside, or even just getting the leash on. There will probably be new reactive behaviors that weren't there before.


He was off-leash in his own fenced back yard.

We're pretty nervous about how this might translate.

We have a trainer we worked with back when we first adopted him and will be reaching out to her today.
 
2021-09-28 7:38:59 AM  
My neighbors dog hates my dog and will attack him if they get closer. Neighbor dog plays a little rough with other dogs, but just hates my blind boy.

Neighbors are very good about it. If we're walking in the same spaces they're aware of it and we both make sure that the dogs don't have to pass each other in close spaces.

On the other hand, my father was minding him once and a small dog kept trying to attack him. My dad ended up lifting the other dog and throwing him across the road and down an embankment on the other side
 
2021-09-28 7:46:26 AM  

educated: question_dj: If your dog was attacked, you're gonna need a trainer in order to help the dog deal with the emotional trauma of being attacked. If it happened on leash, expect a lot of issues to come up simply with going on walks or going outside, or even just getting the leash on. There will probably be new reactive behaviors that weren't there before.

He was off-leash in his own fenced back yard.

We're pretty nervous about how this might translate.

We have a trainer we worked with back when we first adopted him and will be reaching out to her today.


Awesome! Definitely the best approach to take! So great you already have a trainer!
 
2021-09-28 7:53:33 AM  
Our neighbors a house down and across the street from us have a male German Shepherd who is under a year old. A couple months ago I took our Shiba Inu for a walk and walked by the front of their house on the opposite side of the street, as we often do. The husband was in their back yard tossing a tennis ball with the GS. He was off leash but harnessed. He ran to the front and came after our dog.

I saw him coming and tried to stay between the dogs but my dog didn't cooperate. She didn't defend herself either. Luckily the harness the GS was wearing had a handle and I was able to grab that and pull him away before he could hurt our dog. His owners got there and took him and I picked up our dog. She wasn't hurt.

The GS's owners have been trying to train him. He is fine at the dog park but at home he gets VERY territorial. Two Sundays ago he bit the wife's mom. Next day he bit the trainer. The GS was scheduled to be neutered late next month but that has been moved up. The dog may end up being put down, which I don't want to see happen.
 
2021-09-28 8:18:13 AM  

puffy999: Gonna go negative here... Read the link before clicking because it's pretty self explanatory

https://kcby.com/news/local/da-officer​-shot-killed-dog-that-fatally-injured-​myrtle-point-woman-in-front-of-her-kid​s

I drop that because in the recent past some consternation has occurred in past threads.

Know what your (or their) dog's aggression level is. There are some people who cause this, but remember, they may not be the caregiver of a dog at any given moment. In this particular tragedy, third-hand caregivers (when the original owner handed off what was apparently already considered a hazard) suffer the ultimate consequences.


My home town is never in the news for a good reason.
One of the neighbors who pulled the dog off this poor woman was my childhood best friend. I cannot imagine that. And the poor kids who were there. Jesus.
 
2021-09-28 8:18:35 AM  
If you grab a dog's collar in both hands from above, and lift him onto his back legs, there's not much he can do.  Then you just haul him backwards out of the zone.

Of course, this only works when someone else restrains the other dog.
 
2021-09-28 8:57:20 AM  

Gubbo: My neighbors dog hates my dog and will attack him if they get closer. Neighbor dog plays a little rough with other dogs, but just hates my blind boy.

Neighbors are very good about it. If we're walking in the same spaces they're aware of it and we both make sure that the dogs don't have to pass each other in close spaces.

On the other hand, my father was minding him once and a small dog kept trying to attack him. My dad ended up lifting the other dog and throwing him across the road and down an embankment on the other side


YEET!
 
2021-09-28 9:26:56 AM  
We've fostered for a while and fights are inevitable.  If it's outside, a hose usually works best.  But inside, go with a loud yell first.  That sometimes is enough to distract them.  But failing that, just wade into it.  I usually go after the more aggressive of the 2.  Push away the other one and pin the one you're dealing with on its side or back, holding onto the throat (NOT choking).  Just enough pressure that it simulates a dog pinning it to the ground.  This has always been enough to get them to stop.  Even the "bully" breeds.

You can also try grabbing a sheet tray and banging loudly on it or even trying to shove it in between them.

After the fight, I kneel on the ground and ask them both to come to me, petting them and using a calm voice to tell them everything is ok.  They need to get reintroduced fairly quickly so there's no harboring of anything bad.

Dog fights are a great opportunity to practice being calm.  That's one of the most important and difficult things.  Try to not be emotional during or after, as that will only make things worse.

Ted talk over.
 
2021-09-28 9:31:16 AM  
We had a lovely Border Collie. In the middle of a bitter cold snap,  I walked her in the grassy strand in the middle of a "boulevard" type street.  We were out there enjoying the frostbite when a car pulled up. A back door  of the car opened and a small yappy dog emerged. No owner. It was like Ernst Blofeld had dropped his dog off to poo. Well, there are rules about dog fights. The antagonists are supposed to growl and snarl and  drop their heads and change the alertness of their ears. That kind of thing. Stages. To give the weaker of the pair the opportunity to turn tail and back away unharmed. This yappy dog -- I believe it was a Jack Russell -- ignored that. It just walked straight over to my dog and battened onto her face like a remora clinging to a shark. It didn't chew. It didn't do anything except droop. My dog with her angelic disposition  just sat there and looked at me. "What's all this then?" she seemed to say, her eyebrows doing that baffled dog up-and-down dance. I knew what to do. I took about six steps and clocked that Jack Russell in the ribs with the toe of my shoe.  Not enough to lift it off the ground. Not enough to bruise ribs. Just enough. The Goldilocks of pointed attention.  It let go of her hold on my dog and returned to the car. No owner ever appeared. Total elapsed time? 15-20 seconds? After ~30 years details blur
 
2021-09-28 9:32:09 AM  

educated: question_dj: If your dog was attacked, you're gonna need a trainer in order to help the dog deal with the emotional trauma of being attacked. If it happened on leash, expect a lot of issues to come up simply with going on walks or going outside, or even just getting the leash on. There will probably be new reactive behaviors that weren't there before.

He was off-leash in his own fenced back yard.

We're pretty nervous about how this might translate.

We have a trainer we worked with back when we first adopted him and will be reaching out to her today.


Any chance you can take your dog and the offending dog on walks?  It'll probably take quite a few (and quite a few high value treats, like pieces of hot dogs), but eventually they'll associate each other with the pleasantness of a walk rather than each other's mortal enemy.

But if not, you can still try the high value dog treat method.  Any time they see what scares them, give them a treat.  I know it seems counter intuitive but it does work.  A trainer explained it to me like this.  If the swamp thing comes into your back yard, you'll be scared.  But if the swamp thing comes into your yard and starts leaving a bag of money each trip, you'll eventually be happy to see the swamp thing.
 
2021-09-28 9:32:28 AM  
My yellow lab was attacked by three pit bulls during our morning walk.  She was leashed, they were not.  I attempted to pull her away from them and back towards my house as we had just crossed the street when it happened, but they had her cornered, and she pulled out of her collar and ran towards home, all of the pits following her.  She went to the front door where she got pinned down and they started to maul her.  The biggest one had her pinned to the ground and had clamped onto her breast.  I ran up and kicked that dog in the head as hard as I could which broke my sandal, and he went flying with a yelp.  I opened the front door and my dog calmly walked into the house.  I turned around as I shut the front door to see the three pit bulls sitting on my front porch looking in.  I got my pistol and returned to the front door, but they had left (thankfully).

My dog had a large chunk of skin and fur hanging off her chest and had several deep puncture wounds on her hind quarters.  Very little bleeding given the amount of damage.  I called animal control, but they weren't open yet and the message told me to call the police, so I did.  They told me to call animal control when they opened at 8am.

At 7:45 there was a knock on my door, and it happened to be my neighbors who owned the pit bulls.  He told me his roommate accidently left the gate to the back door open.  I told him I didn't care.  I showed them the damage to my dog.  After a brief conversation, they agreed to pay my vet bills if I didn't call animal control.  I agreed on the condition they get rid of the big dog.

I got my dog sewed up and they paid the vet bills, even brought my dog a goodie basket.  I never saw that big dog again, although he told me that my dog took a good portion of that dog's ear off, which I replied with "Good for her, it was three on one."

She lived a good long life and is still referred to as the "best dog ever".

/I now bring a walking stick on walks
 
2021-09-28 9:43:42 AM  

claytonemery: If you grab a dog's collar in both hands from above, and lift him onto his back legs, there's not much he can do.  Then you just haul him backwards out of the zone.

Of course, this only works when someone else restrains the other dog.


We met our neighbors that way. Our dog at the time was hybrid-hardy Collie/German Shepherd mix. The other dog was a goofy Irish Setter. (redundancy alert). It belonged to the new arrivals in the neighborhood. Our dog wasn't usually aggressive -- he usually only barked at English Springer Spaniels -- but he went through the door after it. This is literally true. We had just installed a new screen door and our dog just ignored the screening and went after the Irish Setter. (We never replaced the screen.) My wife did something I'd hardly credit. She immediately ran into the street and waded into the circle of snarling and biting dogs to pull ours away.

The new couple became great friends. Our respective kids grew up together. And the wife+mother of the pair was comfortable enough to tell me my new shoes looked like bowling shoes. It takes a friend to tell you that.
 
2021-09-28 11:23:55 AM  
I once broke up a dog fight or more like a dog attack.  A pitbull named Mr. T owned by a friend grabbed ahold of a lab mix by the scruff and started pulling and shaking.  I did not know a dog's scruff could stretch that far.  Me and another guy (a weightlifter - big guy) wrestled off this pitbull and it ended with me sitting on the dog's back using every ounce of strength I had to hold this dog down.  He bucked his head up a few times and once caught me in the chin with the back of his head.  That head was like a boulder.  Eventually we got the lab mix away and the pitbull chilled out.  I hate that dog.
 
2021-09-28 3:15:40 PM  
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2021-09-28 3:26:02 PM  
"Has your dog been involved in an unintentional dog fight?"

I was going to post about the competitive Fark dog fighting which is live-streamed for TotalFark members.

But then I re-read subby's headline.
 
2021-09-28 3:31:57 PM  

Omnis_evil_twin: puffy999: Gonna go negative here... Read the link before clicking because it's pretty self explanatory

https://kcby.com/news/local/da-officer​-shot-killed-dog-that-fatally-injured-​myrtle-point-woman-in-front-of-her-kid​s

I drop that because in the recent past some consternation has occurred in past threads.

Know what your (or their) dog's aggression level is. There are some people who cause this, but remember, they may not be the caregiver of a dog at any given moment. In this particular tragedy, third-hand caregivers (when the original owner handed off what was apparently already considered a hazard) suffer the ultimate consequences.

My home town is never in the news for a good reason.
One of the neighbors who pulled the dog off this poor woman was my childhood best friend. I cannot imagine that. And the poor kids who were there. Jesus.


Sorry about that. But I'm glad your friend was there to try, and didn't suffer the same fate as this poor woman

/years ago I went searching around to find an old friend from elementary school
//turns out he had made the news several years earlier for reporting about his friend who was stocking up on ammo and had told him he was going to shoot up the school
 
2021-09-28 3:40:28 PM  

educated: Our boy's paw was grabbed through our fence by a neighbor dog today - the dogs were in separate yards, separated by a 5 ft., tight, cedar plank fence. Neighbor dog, known to our dog, latched on our dog's paw from under the fence and would not let go.
Our boy's paw is mangled from teeth and from being pulled through the fence. He tried to chew through the fence to get himself free. We were there from the start and nothing short of strong-arming the other dog's jaws open would release our pup (and even that was extremely difficult - we tried every trick in the linked article, even the ones they advise against).

Neighbors are good.
Neighbor's dog is good.
Our dog is an angel (seriously, that's what's killing us the most. Our dog literally would not hurt a fly. Our dog protects baby bunnies, no joke.)

Has this happened to you - an unintentional, improbable violent interaction? How'd it go? Is your dog ok?

How did you comfort your dog through their injuries? Any behavioral changes in your dog after? If yes, how did you resolve?

How did the human interaction go? Was it civil? Was it reasonable?

These pups are all such good boys and girls. It is so terrible when something like this happens.

/I want to kill the other dog
//no, not really
///well, sorta
////but no
//seriously, no


//but yes


If that happens, take a hammer to the skull of the offending dog.

Don't bat an eye. Just do it.

I'm not kidding.

And "good dogs" don't do that.
 
2021-09-28 3:55:35 PM  
i had a Doberman, and we were attacked on two different occasions by unleashed pit bulls while we were out for a walk.. Both times he had them by the throat and belly up in a matter of seconds. He eventually let go, and they ran off. No harm to Rebel the Dobie.
 
2021-09-28 8:03:08 PM  
Had a 35 lb beagle/Jack Russell mix. Beautiful dog for us. But he required compromises. He was attacked while in lead at about a year old and assumed that was the expected interaction with all dogs.

Had him on a leash in the backyard when the neighbor's boxer broke from the fence and knocked me down. He went after my dog Sparky and broke skin in two places. Sparky was down to clown, and took a small patch if skin off him somehow. I used the lead Sparky had slipped to whip him and get his attention. The other dog had already disengaged and was limping home, but Sparky wasn't done with him. Anytime the other dog moved, Sparky went back after him. I was finally able to get the lead back in him and get him back inside.

The boxer ran off and was terrorizing small kids in our block. I was able to distract him and hold his attention and lead him back in his fenced yard. But he got out again, chased kids but didn't catch them. So I called animal control when I couldn't reach the neighbors or their landlord. Asswipe had the nerve to call me a cracker and a honky. I laughed, wondering if I had wandered into a Sanford and Son episode. That set him off, and we had a physical dispute till animal control and a cop showed up. I don't love judging folks, but his behavior and ankle bracelet monitor led me to certain conclusions.
 
2021-09-28 9:18:40 PM  

shabu: Had a 35 lb beagle/Jack Russell mix. Beautiful dog for us. But he required compromises. He was attacked while in lead at about a year old and assumed that was the expected interaction with all dogs.

Had him on a leash in the backyard when the neighbor's boxer broke from the fence and knocked me down. He went after my dog Sparky and broke skin in two places. Sparky was down to clown, and took a small patch if skin off him somehow. I used the lead Sparky had slipped to whip him and get his attention. The other dog had already disengaged and was limping home, but Sparky wasn't done with him. Anytime the other dog moved, Sparky went back after him. I was finally able to get the lead back in him and get him back inside.

The boxer ran off and was terrorizing small kids in our block. I was able to distract him and hold his attention and lead him back in his fenced yard. But he got out again, chased kids but didn't catch them. So I called animal control when I couldn't reach the neighbors or their landlord. Asswipe had the nerve to call me a cracker and a honky. I laughed, wondering if I had wandered into a Sanford and Son episode. That set him off, and we had a physical dispute till animal control and a cop showed up. I don't love judging folks, but his behavior and ankle bracelet monitor led me to certain conclusions.


All dog owners I know agree, "There are no bad dogs, only bad people."
 
2021-09-29 5:59:55 AM  
A couple times with different dogs. First time I grabbed my dog's collar. The other dog's owner grabbed his dog's collar. We pulled them away from each other.

The other time I got between my (leashed) dog and the other person's (unleashed) dog and kicked it hard until it got the message. The other dog's owners were very apologetic.
 
2021-09-29 8:59:27 AM  
Thanks for sharing your experiences, everyone.

I would have been much more aggressive with the other dog had she not had my dog's paw in her mouth, pulling his arm through the fence. Any aggression towards her would have meant more injury to my dog. It was a bad situation all around.

He's afraid of his yard now - which is gutting. So today we're cooking steak for the start of "your yard is the best place ever, remember?!" training.
 
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