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2021-09-28 12:22:08 AM  
No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.
 
2021-09-28 7:11:56 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.


Hell even Democratic Senators are trying to kill it. The moneyed interests have spoken.
 
2021-09-28 7:40:47 AM  
Stuff that our peer nations have that we will never have.
 
2021-09-28 8:08:25 AM  
Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.
 
2021-09-28 8:10:11 AM  
I don't believe you.
We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage and to end Trumps executive abuse orders on the border.
 
2021-09-28 8:11:26 AM  
Don't need an education to use a pitchfork
 
2021-09-28 8:11:31 AM  
this will never become reality.  and even if it does, the next president will cancel it.
 
2021-09-28 8:11:47 AM  

johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.


Wow hot take.
 
2021-09-28 8:15:39 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.


And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.
 
2021-09-28 8:16:37 AM  
The bill would make all Americans entitled to two years of free pre-K, and two years of free community college, though states must opt in and be able to cover about 20% of the costs. The bill would be able to provide enough funding to support the programs for five years.

Meh, it's opt in and the states have to pay 20% and if the republicans control the government when the funding evaporates in 5 years and they don't vote to renew it the states that opted in either take 100% on or end the program. So get it while it's hot, if it actually ever passes.
 
2021-09-28 8:16:46 AM  

heavymetal: GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.

And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.


There it is.
 
2021-09-28 8:17:21 AM  

johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.


Pretty sure Trump solved immigration in 4 years, he said he was gonna.

Considering how densely thoughtful your view is there, what was Biden supposed to do in these 8 months to fix or improve things? Not to mention, the damage is probably a hell of a lot deeper from what's been done these last four years and just like every Dem president that takes over after the GOP, they spend more time cleaning up and leave it a lot better than it was before. But sure, you tell us what Biden needs and should do-you seem like the person who would give us that best answer.
 
2021-09-28 8:17:52 AM  

sinner4ever: I don't believe you.
We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage and to end Trumps executive abuse orders on the border.


He never got me my pony either!

Whaaaaaa
 
2021-09-28 8:19:14 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.


The ones from Tennessee will be interesting

The red state that loves free college
 
2021-09-28 8:19:35 AM  
Largest expansion of public school since FDR.

Investing in human capital is a function of government.

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2021-09-28 8:20:07 AM  
What this country needs is universal special-K
 
2021-09-28 8:20:40 AM  

Headso: The bill would make all Americans entitled to two years of free pre-K, and two years of free community college, though states must opt in and be able to cover about 20% of the costs. The bill would be able to provide enough funding to support the programs for five years.

Meh, it's opt in and the states have to pay 20% and if the republicans control the government when the funding evaporates in 5 years and they don't vote to renew it the states that opted in either take 100% on or end the program. So get it while it's hot, if it actually ever passes.


so the same argument as the expanded medicare issue?
 
2021-09-28 8:22:17 AM  

johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.


Your keyboard works. So you've got that going for you at least.
 
2021-09-28 8:23:13 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.


"This is an attempt to.....to indoctrinate our children with a liberal message of communism. We must resist."

It'll be something like that.
 
2021-09-28 8:25:30 AM  
It's in the $3.5T bill which won't be passing due to Nancy's current maneuvers to pass the $1.5T corporate handout spending bill ahead of the reconciliation bill, thereby removing any and all leverage to get the conservative Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Kathleen Rice, etc) to vote for the reconciliation bill.
 
2021-09-28 8:26:27 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: what was Biden supposed to do in these 8 months to fix or improve things?


It's sad that you typed this out thinking it was a good question to ask.
 
2021-09-28 8:26:36 AM  

misanthropicsob: It's in the $3.5T bill which won't be passing due to Nancy's current maneuvers to pass the $1.5T corporate handout spending bill ahead of the reconciliation bill, thereby removing any and all leverage to get the conservative Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Kathleen Rice, etc) to vote for the reconciliation bill.


Alt account says "what?"
 
2021-09-28 8:26:37 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Stuff that our peer nations have that we will never have.


Seems like you guys should go back to acting more as a loosely affiliated states rather than trying to do things through the fed.

"United" States.
 
2021-09-28 8:26:39 AM  

heavymetal: GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.

And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.


Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are Democrats.
 
2021-09-28 8:27:40 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.

Pretty sure Trump solved immigration in 4 years, he said he was gonna.

Considering how densely thoughtful your view is there, what was Biden supposed to do in these 8 months to fix or improve things? Not to mention, the damage is probably a hell of a lot deeper from what's been done these last four years and just like every Dem president that takes over after the GOP, they spend more time cleaning up and leave it a lot better than it was before. But sure, you tell us what Biden needs and should do-you seem like the person who would give us that best answer.


LOL! Yeah, it really sounds like Biden has reversed Trump's policies when he has deported 200,000 MORE than Trump did, and from Rolling Stone (had to get a cached version):

Lee Gelernt is an attorney with the ACLU, which sued the Trump administration over Title 42, the rule that uses the pandemic as justification to deport asylum seekers without a hearing. Gelernt was hopeful that, when the new administration came in, the ACLU might be able to drop their lawsuit against the government. "We expected the Biden administration to get rid of the worst of the Trump-era asylum practices, the most extreme of which was the Title 42 policy," Gelernt says. But after six months of negotiations with the Biden administration, it became clear they weren't getting anywhere. Last week, when a federal court told the government it must suspend the Trump-era policy, Biden administration lawyers vowed to appeal the decision.

Yeah, what about Trump? ZERO action has been taken against him in more than 8 months.

Biden is an imbecilic old center-right politician and Trump is going to win in 2024 if this continues. I don't even hold much hope for 2022. I am sure we are going to lose the Senate, not that it matters with more center-right assholes on our side.
 
2021-09-28 8:27:42 AM  

misanthropicsob: It's in the $3.5T bill which won't be passing due to Nancy's current maneuvers to pass the $1.5T corporate handout spending bill ahead of the reconciliation bill, thereby removing any and all leverage to get the conservative Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Kathleen Rice, etc) to vote for the reconciliation bill.


I'm hoping that she's holding the vote expecting it to fail, but it's more than likely that she's fully capitulating.
 
2021-09-28 8:28:56 AM  

johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.


All I know is that soshulizt Biden better not touch my tRumpCare!
 
2021-09-28 8:29:03 AM  

misanthropicsob: heavymetal: GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.

And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are Democrats.


And they are equally worthless.
 
2021-09-28 8:29:03 AM  

sinner4ever: We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage


There are easier ways for you to get a raise than waiting for Biden to wave his magic wand.
 
2021-09-28 8:30:23 AM  
And I'm pretty sure that IBT will have a problem with it if it helps the poors.

/DNRTFA
 
2021-09-28 8:30:36 AM  

Rapmaster2000: sinner4ever: We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage

There are easier ways for you to get a raise than waiting for Biden to wave his magic wand.


Oh look, Team Do Nothing is chiming in.

I guess the American people aren't bootstraps enough for you.
 
2021-09-28 8:31:23 AM  

sinner4ever: I don't believe you.
We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage and to end Trumps executive abuse orders on the border.


Do you not get the internet?  Are you actually lying that Biden has done nothing since getting into office?  Because nothing would be the bare minimum.
 
2021-09-28 8:32:16 AM  

misanthropicsob: Rapmaster2000: sinner4ever: We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage

There are easier ways for you to get a raise than waiting for Biden to wave his magic wand.

Oh look, Team Do Nothing is chiming in.

I guess the American people aren't bootstraps enough for you.


Weird how they're always together isn't it?
 
2021-09-28 8:32:45 AM  

johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.


Go fark yourself and the bullshiat you came to spew
 
2021-09-28 8:33:03 AM  

LL316: sinner4ever: I don't believe you.
We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage and to end Trumps executive abuse orders on the border.

Do you not get the internet?  Are you actually lying that Biden has done nothing since getting into office?  Because nothing would be the bare minimum.


Oh, sorry. Joe Biden banned CBP from using horses.
 
2021-09-28 8:33:05 AM  

misanthropicsob: Rapmaster2000: sinner4ever: We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage

There are easier ways for you to get a raise than waiting for Biden to wave his magic wand.

Oh look, Team Do Nothing is chiming in.

I guess the American people aren't bootstraps enough for you.


What magic wand does Bernie have that he'd have waved to get Republicans to not be obstructionists?
 
2021-09-28 8:33:22 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.

Pretty sure Trump solved immigration in 4 years, he said he was gonna.

Considering how densely thoughtful your view is there, what was Biden supposed to do in these 8 months to fix or improve things? Not to mention, the damage is probably a hell of a lot deeper from what's been done these last four years and just like every Dem president that takes over after the GOP, they spend more time cleaning up and leave it a lot better than it was before. But sure, you tell us what Biden needs and should do-you seem like the person who would give us that best answer.


Vert well said OmnomnomCookies.I love these armchair presidents, who base their analysis on the incoming POTUS having a total clean slate to where everything is perfect when they take office. I also find it fascinating how they compare Biden to perfection, rather than the clusterfark he beat. Meanwhile GOP POTUS's are given gold stars for living up to the lowest common denominator. There needs to be a media blitz of the fecal sandwiches it seems past GOP POTUS's leave behind and how Democratic POTUS's spend most of their political capital then cleaning up the mess; rather than being able to use it to actually make things better. Just for the GOP to exploit it politically and regain power, which restarts the cycle.

When you look at the shiat sandwich Biden inherited, he freaking saved America's collapse. Just like Clinton and just like Obama did.
 
2021-09-28 8:33:40 AM  

Kazan: johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.

Go fark yourself and the bullshiat you came to spew


Deal with reality. You are bringing it on yourself, remember that.
 
2021-09-28 8:34:13 AM  

LL316: Are you actually lying


That's all these trash Eeyores have. Don't take that away from them.
 
2021-09-28 8:34:19 AM  
Assuming it gets on the gridiron....
 
2021-09-28 8:35:10 AM  

misanthropicsob: heavymetal: GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.

And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are Democrats.


And they are not Joe Biden. But Biden will get the flack for their shenanigans because he will not try to extort them for support like Trump would do.
 
2021-09-28 8:36:00 AM  

johnphantom: Kazan: johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.

Go fark yourself and the bullshiat you came to spew

Deal with reality. You are bringing it on yourself, remember that.


You lying your ass off and misrepresentating shiat is not reality, MAGAt Brownshirt
 
2021-09-28 8:36:05 AM  

LL316: misanthropicsob: Rapmaster2000: sinner4ever: We are 9 months in and Biden didn't do the bare minimum which includes a $15 minimum wage

There are easier ways for you to get a raise than waiting for Biden to wave his magic wand.

Oh look, Team Do Nothing is chiming in.

I guess the American people aren't bootstraps enough for you.

What magic wand does Bernie have that he'd have waved to get Republicans to not be obstructionists?


See my original comment in this thread, I called it.
 
2021-09-28 8:36:40 AM  

heavymetal: misanthropicsob: heavymetal: GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.

And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are Democrats.

And they are not Joe Biden. But Biden will get the flack for their shenanigans because he will not try to extort them for support like Trump would do.


Sinema will lose her primary in 2024.  Machin.. Well we just need to make him irrelevant
 
2021-09-28 8:37:16 AM  
Notice that the Democrats want credit for the bill before it passes. And as soon as you bring up the fact that it's in the $3.5T reconciliation bill which is being torpedoed by conservative Democrats like Manchin and Sinema, and Nancy is maneuvering to remove any leverage the progressives have against the conservative wing, they shift to personal attacks.

Typical.
 
2021-09-28 8:38:11 AM  

Kazan: johnphantom: Kazan: johnphantom: Just like what Biden is doing with immigration? Lets see... 8 months, and it is far worse than what it was under tRump.

Biden is worthless and he had better not run in 2024 because tRump will win.

Go fark yourself and the bullshiat you came to spew

Deal with reality. You are bringing it on yourself, remember that.

You lying your ass off and misrepresentating shiat is not reality, MAGAt Brownshirt


Are you saying what I quoted from Rolling Stone is a lie? .
 
2021-09-28 8:39:16 AM  

johnphantom: Yeah, what about Trump? ZERO action has been taken against him in more than 8 months.


almost like it takes time to completely rebuild the justice dept and collect evidence and subpoena everyone in order to make the case water tight. or something.

be patient.
 
2021-09-28 8:39:19 AM  
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2021-09-28 8:40:15 AM  

misanthropicsob: It's in the $3.5T bill which won't be passing due to Nancy's current maneuvers to pass the $1.5T corporate handout spending bill ahead of the reconciliation bill, thereby removing any and all leverage to get the conservative Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Kathleen Rice, etc) to vote for the reconciliation bill.


They might - to raise the debt limit. We'll see.
 
2021-09-28 8:41:02 AM  

Kazan: heavymetal: misanthropicsob: heavymetal: GreatGlavinsGhost: No matter how good it is, or how popular it is, the GOP Senators will not support it.

Watch when it comes up for debate Yertle and his gang of idiots will insist on watering it down, and then refuse to vote for their bastard bill.

And the far left will blame Biden for the GOP obstructionism because "reasons" like he is not Bernie.

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are Democrats.

And they are not Joe Biden. But Biden will get the flack for their shenanigans because he will not try to extort them for support like Trump would do.

Sinema will lose her primary in 2024.  Machin.. Well we just need to make him irrelevant


Machin is retiring, at which point that will likely be a republican seat for the foreseeable future.  Focus on senators that you can replace with Ds, any attention paid to Machin is wasted effort.

Fark Sinema, she's easily replaceable with someone who actually represents her constituents.
 
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