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2021-09-27 11:06:45 PM  
If they can't get out of that dump in St. Petersburg, they need to move.  It would be cool if they moved to Montreal - that fanbase got screwed in the '94 strike and by ownership that was not interesting in staying in town - but they need to build a new stadium there too, or they'll just be trading one dark, artificial stadium for another.
 
2021-09-27 11:14:44 PM  
Portland needs them or the A's.
 
2021-09-27 11:56:27 PM  
The Ex-Rays.
 
2021-09-28 12:01:02 AM  

puffy999: Portland needs them or the A's.


I don't get the whole PDX/MLB thing. If the Mariners can't get any attention, why do people think a Portland team is going to do any better? Seems like yet another taxpayer-funded stadium that most people can't afford to attend anyway.
 
2021-09-28 12:07:53 AM  

BretMavrik: I don't get the whole PDX/MLB thing. If the Mariners can't get any attention, why do people think a Portland team is going to do any better


The Mariners can't get attention because they were terrible for two decades and they tripped up this year. CHECK in five years, since the team *actually* has someone in charge who seems to have a plan. But... it all still depends on ownership.

Also, last I looked, Portland and Seattle are in different states. And, well, Portland AFAIK has never *lost* one of its major pro franchises.

Also, the idea of a casino-funded stadium was bounced around awhile ago, BEFORE the area decided to make the Grand Ronde the defacto tribe of the Willamette and BEFORE sports gambling became the rage (and was legalized once again in Oregon - with restrictions). So why can't we do that now?
 
2021-09-28 12:09:15 AM  
There was an argument about casinos encroaching on the area and tribal issues because "whose region is it?" And well apparently we don't care about either issue anymore, so let's explore that stadoium-for-a-casino idea.
 
2021-09-28 12:18:18 AM  

puffy999: BretMavrik: I don't get the whole PDX/MLB thing. If the Mariners can't get any attention, why do people think a Portland team is going to do any better

The Mariners can't get attention because they were terrible for two decades and they tripped up this year. CHECK in five years, since the team *actually* has someone in charge who seems to have a plan. But... it all still depends on ownership.

Also, last I looked, Portland and Seattle are in different states. And, well, Portland AFAIK has never *lost* one of its major pro franchises.

Also, the idea of a casino-funded stadium was bounced around awhile ago, BEFORE the area decided to make the Grand Ronde the defacto tribe of the Willamette and BEFORE sports gambling became the rage (and was legalized once again in Oregon - with restrictions). So why can't we do that now?


Your response seems to confirm what I've seen so far... there are a few people who *really* want it to happen, but most people are "meh". With all the other shiat going on around here, I just don't see my community getting behind a MLB push... and I live about three miles from the Hillsboro ballpark. I'm not opposed to it, I just don't see it happening.
 
2021-09-28 12:29:16 AM  
Tropicana Field is abysmal. It's the equivalent of an empty Costco warehouse.

St. Petersburg has sunk millions in developing the area around the stadium. They are being petty in not letting the Rays go elsewhere.

Tampa Bay tries to get the stadium but they keep running in to jerks who bought the property where they planned to build the stadium and quadrupled the selling price. Plus they keep fighting with St. Pete over rights.

Sternberg is a jerkoff most importantly.
 
2021-09-28 12:30:16 AM  

BretMavrik: puffy999: BretMavrik: I don't get the whole PDX/MLB thing. If the Mariners can't get any attention, why do people think a Portland team is going to do any better

The Mariners can't get attention because they were terrible for two decades and they tripped up this year. CHECK in five years, since the team *actually* has someone in charge who seems to have a plan. But... it all still depends on ownership.

Also, last I looked, Portland and Seattle are in different states. And, well, Portland AFAIK has never *lost* one of its major pro franchises.

Also, the idea of a casino-funded stadium was bounced around awhile ago, BEFORE the area decided to make the Grand Ronde the defacto tribe of the Willamette and BEFORE sports gambling became the rage (and was legalized once again in Oregon - with restrictions). So why can't we do that now?

Your response seems to confirm what I've seen so far... there are a few people who *really* want it to happen, but most people are "meh". With all the other shiat going on around here, I just don't see my community getting behind a MLB push... and I live about three miles from the Hillsboro ballpark. I'm not opposed to it, I just don't see it happening.


I don't even live there so I don't care enough to care, but I've always liked the idea as a Mariners fan because, well, it does hurt not having a natural rival. But unlike Seattle if PDX had a team I would go. Where I live I'd rather *attend* a Giants game than a Mariners game, good year or not. It's not much further than Seattle and the stadium is way nicer.

I absolutely do NOT want a taxpayer funded park. Because this is Oregon and we already have enough rural folk pissed at Portland.
 
2021-09-28 12:34:42 AM  
Personally I'd have preferred a hockey team but I don't want anywhere near that NHL clusterfark.

And an NFL team *would* possibly work but that just won't happen for reasons including they seem to always want a taxpayer-funded stadium save when they can get multiple franchises in the same building.

Also, Phil Knight is a ***** so of course he wouldn't help. Not unless the state literally legalized child slavery and opened a Nike factory in West Linn.
 
2021-09-28 1:02:10 AM  

JerseyTim: The Ex-Rays.


perfect.
not perfect but another possibility: the Exposés.

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2021-09-28 1:38:00 AM  
If the Rays move to Canada, they'd need promoted into the National League.  Which NL team then gets demoted to the AL?  My vote is for Washington, so all would be right with the world.
 
2021-09-28 3:04:14 AM  

puffy999: Also, last I looked, Portland and Seattle are in different states. And, well, Portland AFAIK has never *lost* one of its major pro franchises


Just want to point out that the PCL Beavers left FOUR times, and a few other lesser versions didn't make it either (granted one was because the Beavers came back but still). Just because they weren't major doesn't mean they didn't have their problems.
 
2021-09-28 3:37:02 AM  

FriarReb98: puffy999: Also, last I looked, Portland and Seattle are in different states. And, well, Portland AFAIK has never *lost* one of its major pro franchises

Just want to point out that the PCL Beavers left FOUR times, and a few other lesser versions didn't make it either (granted one was because the Beavers came back but still). Just because they weren't major doesn't mean they didn't have their problems.


I mean the first team that came and went was over a century ago.

The Beavers 2.0 were doing fine until someone decided to move the team in the 70s, which soured people.
Thus brought the Mavericks, which became popular, and of course that meant some asshat had to get a higher-level team in town to ruin that. And then not long after the new AAA franchise became competitive, some asshat bought them and decided to try to strongarm the city into a stadium deal, and left when it didn't happen and the Mormons bought him a stadium. (this was incarnation 3... note: you may remember this era of PDX baseball from the guy who ran through the outfield fence)

Portland had seen the minor league schtick by the time the fourth AAA team came around, and whaddya know? By that time soccer was getting big, the city turned the old stadium into a soccer/football stadium (which makes sense by layout), and told the Beavers to stop grifting and build their own stadium or leave. The owner sold the team. They moved.

So, yeah, I get it, but it's kinda silly to compare minor league ball to MLB. Minor league baseball is as hot for a big city as a poor FCS football team. MAJOR League Baseball is still a destination, and gets on regional TV and makes newspapers.

I'll mention another team just to kinda give some comparison. Oregon State football. They rebuilt their stadium and jacked up prices obnoxiously for what was a horrible product, and the worst seats cost just as much for some of the best on any given day, there weren't "cheap" sections like the U of O had when they rebuilt Autzen at around the same time. A good way to alienate the people interested is to price them out and to put crap on the field.
 
2021-09-28 3:40:35 AM  

virulent_loser: JerseyTim: The Ex-Rays.

perfect.
not perfect but another possibility: the Exposés.

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High school English teachers trying to look sexy.

/the redhead isn't bad
 
2021-09-28 3:46:47 AM  

puffy999: Portland had seen the minor league schtick by the time the fourth AAA team came around, and whaddya know? By that time soccer was getting big, the city turned the old stadium into a soccer/football stadium (which makes sense by layout


And by not just the Timbers (this is the 4th Timbers team to play soccer in Portland, FWIW...) popularity but the MLS being pro (and on national television, and with regional deals which were assisted by a respected organization) made it a no-brainer.
 
2021-09-28 3:50:43 AM  
To be fair, Oregon as a whole seems to have idiots running things when it comes to what's on TV. Forgetting the years of Pac12 Network BS (they obtained rights to the Oregon-Oregon State Civil War game, and yet many communities in the state had no access to the network even with cable or satellite), there was the time not too long ago when the regional sports network was showing JAZZ GAMES.
 
2021-09-28 3:52:12 AM  
And actually, where I lived at the time, we also had CSN Bay Area so Warriors games were on a lot.
 
2021-09-28 6:35:42 AM  

puffy999: CHECK in five years, since the team *actually* has someone in charge who seems to have a plan


there are about half dozen teams who have deployed the let's farking destroy this team because we have a plan method.

it's not going to work for all of them.  the orioles have lost about 500 games in the last four seasons and have a catcher who has better than average odds to be good in the minors to show for it.
 
2021-09-28 10:02:58 AM  
The Rays are going to alienate fans in the Tampa Bay area if they play half their games in Montreal. That being said, they're trying their best to get a new stadium around here... Tampa would be a much better location. St. Pete keeps dicking the team around, what did they think would happen? The Trop is a shiate stadium.

I live probably 10 miles from it... I hate going to Rays games though.
 
2021-09-28 10:23:05 AM  

veale728: The Rays are going to alienate fans in the Tampa Bay area if they play half their games in Montreal. That being said, they're trying their best to get a new stadium around here... Tampa would be a much better location. St. Pete keeps dicking the team around, what did they think would happen? The Trop is a shiate stadium.

I live probably 10 miles from it... I hate going to Rays games though.


St pete has a massive inferiority complex about tampa.

They built what is now the trop years before the area had a team and basically said "either the team goes here or we will actively try to sabotage the bay area getting a team."

Until they pulled that shiat, the plan was to build a stadium east of tampa around where the brandon mall went.

Fans from all over central and west central florida would have been able to go there easily.

St pete was so jealous of tampa being more famous because of the bucs they deliberately torpedoed that.

Any stadium in either downtown st pete or downtown tampa ( which is almost as hard to get to ), will be the end of that franchise being in the area.
 
2021-09-28 1:38:13 PM  

gregz18: If they can't get out of that dump in St. Petersburg, they need to move.  It would be cool if they moved to Montreal - that fanbase got screwed in the '94 strike and by ownership that was not interesting in staying in town - but they need to build a new stadium there too, or they'll just be trading one dark, artificial stadium for another.


They could have gotten a stadium...if Loria hadn't farked Miami over.
 
2021-09-28 1:40:54 PM  

veale728: The Rays are going to alienate fans in the Tampa Bay area if they play half their games in Montreal. That being said, they're trying their best to get a new stadium around here... Tampa would be a much better location. St. Pete keeps dicking the team around, what did they think would happen? The Trop is a shiate stadium.

I live probably 10 miles from it... I hate going to Rays games though.


Can't the Rays force the issue with St. Pete and start negotiating with Tampa?
 
2021-09-28 2:38:52 PM  
I say keep the team in the states either in the Carolinas, Puerto Rico or Nashville.
 
2021-09-28 3:35:59 PM  
The Tampa Bay Eh's
 
2021-09-28 4:04:31 PM  
Sure.

But as a Montreal resident I'll say upfront: not out of my taxes!

/this will come down to who's elected in the November mayoral election... if Mister Baseball Denis Coderre gets in, so does baseball (on our dime). If he doesn't, it might but the city won't put out
 
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