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(Popular Science)   An AI program finally finished Beethoven's 10th Symphony. But is it any good?   (popsci.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Ludwig van Beethoven, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Symphony, Music, Johann Sebastian Bach, Symphony No. 9, work of a team of music historians, completion of his Ninth Symphony  
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2021-09-27 7:57:15 AM  
Well according to the reviews it was "5c*<00111<0111010".
 
2021-09-27 8:10:53 AM  
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2021-09-27 8:34:37 AM  
OK buttheads, in order to convince me of the accuracy of your approach, you need to take similar scraps from a finished symphony such as the 9th (that AI is denied as input) and apply your methods. I didn't see any mention of that (really obvious) approach in the article.

No way is what comes out of this "Beethoven".
 
2021-09-27 8:39:22 AM  
How hard could it be?  St Bernard causes trouble.  Every movie was almost cookie cutter in its storyline.
 
2021-09-27 8:42:01 AM  
It's good if you like it.
 
2021-09-27 8:42:24 AM  
Great, now do Schubert.
 
2021-09-27 8:51:05 AM  
Hopefully it's not the same AI that must have created the new Subaru Outback commercial, or it'll be someone shrilling "I WANNA GO A LITTLE WILD" ad infinitum.
 
2021-09-27 9:12:46 AM  
Shave and a haircut, two bits?
 
2021-09-27 9:29:24 AM  

johnny_stingray: Shave and a haircut, two bits?


Three notes too many.
 
2021-09-27 11:31:38 AM  

sozelle: johnny_stingray: Shave and a haircut, two bits?

Three notes too many.


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/ yeah I know it was about Mozart
 
2021-09-27 12:14:48 PM  

b0rscht: OK buttheads, in order to convince me of the accuracy of your approach, you need to take similar scraps from a finished symphony such as the 9th (that AI is denied as input) and apply your methods. I didn't see any mention of that (really obvious) approach in the article.

No way is what comes out of this "Beethoven".


And you'd think doing that would be essential in refining the algorithm.

Ultimately, this just seems to demonstrate that you can feed some thematic material to AI and it can turn it into a symphonic movement in the style of a composer - something which a human could do. They're clearly trying to use the novelty of AI to claim that there is something more "authentic" about this completion than what a human would compose.
 
2021-09-27 12:33:39 PM  
If it's like those Beatles and Pink Floyd "albums" I've heard, nope.

A big NOPE.
 
2021-09-27 1:13:18 PM  
Now do the Unbegun Symphony.
 
2021-09-27 1:28:55 PM  

thornhill: Ultimately, this just seems to demonstrate that you can feed some thematic material to AI and it can turn it into a symphonic movement in the style of a composer - something which a human could do. They're clearly trying to use the novelty of AI to claim that there is something more "authentic" about this completion than what a human would compose.


There's was a music professor who would let audiences give him arbitrary tunes and styles ("The Imperial March from Star Wars, if composed by Debussy") named Richard Grayson. He could improvise piano works on the spot. There are videos of his work all over Youtube, and it's amazing. It's not beyond the reach of a human being to complete a work from scraps, but it might be the work of decades or a lifetime, and only after a lifetime of scholarship were dedicated to the process. I'd very much like to find out what an AI trained to produce new classical works could do, whether or not there's broad consensus as to its legitimacy.
 
2021-09-27 2:12:07 PM  
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2021-09-27 2:16:12 PM  

Slypork: sozelle: johnny_stingray: Shave and a haircut, two bits?

Three notes too many.

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/ yeah I know it was about Mozart


Tumeni notes - Steve Morse 1990 Live
Youtube 76svWOj8B04

What "Tumeni Notes" may sound like.
 
2021-09-27 3:08:12 PM  
Control-F "GRRM"

/disappointed.
 
2021-09-27 3:09:39 PM  
Subby: But is it any good?

If Symphonies 1 thru 9 are any indication?  No.

/OK Boooooooomer
 
2021-09-27 3:53:05 PM  
As for the clip, it sounds like something from the 1770s written with an 1820s orchestra and dynamics.
 
2021-09-27 5:44:17 PM  
It could easily do Schoenberg. It just needs a random number generator.
 
2021-09-27 7:48:38 PM  

ZMugg: Slypork: sozelle: johnny_stingray: Shave and a haircut, two bits?

Three notes too many.

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oh my gawd now THAT is funny.   I listened to about 5 seconds.....
 
2021-09-27 7:53:07 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: It could easily do Schoenberg. It just needs a random number generator.


Or if it's something from the mid-20th century, just push a piano down the stairs and recorded that.
 
2021-09-27 8:07:16 PM  

two towns over: oh my gawd now THAT is funny. I listened to about 5 seconds.....


Why only 5?
 
2021-09-27 8:50:01 PM  

ZMugg: two towns over: oh my gawd now THAT is funny. I listened to about 5 seconds.....

Why only 5?


It's all I could take.
 
2021-09-27 9:12:05 PM  

two towns over: ZMugg: two towns over: oh my gawd now THAT is funny. I listened to about 5 seconds.....

Why only 5?

It's all I could take.


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