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2021-09-26 8:38:36 AM  
I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.
 
2021-09-26 9:00:48 AM  
I routinely downplay my own intelligence, one technique is to 'mistakenly but repeatedly' refer to that celestial event as the "Gang Bang".
 
2021-09-26 9:24:11 AM  
Yeah, but The Bare Naked Ladies wouldn't lie to me.
 
2021-09-26 9:25:06 AM  
He earned a patent on new mask technology in 1973, but said he was unable to gain traction as he spent a few years trying to sell his idea - he couldn't induce the wide-scale adoption he had hoped for.

"He once invented something that demonstrably had no viability on the open market and was unable to attract even the most paltry outside investments, which clearly means that he is an unrecognized genius and we are all fortunate that we have a new opportunity to hear his words and learn from his shadow greatness."
 
2021-09-26 9:44:20 AM  
"The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today."

This is false. The so called Big Bang theory says nothing about the origin of the universe. It describes the evolution of the universe after it already started.
 
2021-09-26 9:46:30 AM  

Pocket Ninja: He earned a patent on new mask technology in 1973, but said he was unable to gain traction as he spent a few years trying to sell his idea - he couldn't induce the wide-scale adoption he had hoped for.

"He once invented something that demonstrably had no viability on the open market and was unable to attract even the most paltry outside investments, which clearly means that he is an unrecognized genius and we are all fortunate that we have a new opportunity to hear his words and learn from his shadow greatness."


No one "earns" a patent.  I am attached to a couple myself...you just have to hire a lawyer to help you file (at least that's the easier route.)
 
2021-09-26 10:32:45 AM  
"What a dumba$$"


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2021-09-26 10:51:39 AM  

plecos: Pocket Ninja: He earned a patent on new mask technology in 1973, but said he was unable to gain traction as he spent a few years trying to sell his idea - he couldn't induce the wide-scale adoption he had hoped for.

"He once invented something that demonstrably had no viability on the open market and was unable to attract even the most paltry outside investments, which clearly means that he is an unrecognized genius and we are all fortunate that we have a new opportunity to hear his words and learn from his shadow greatness."

No one "earns" a patent.  I am attached to a couple myself...you just have to hire a lawyer to help you file (at least that's the easier route.)


I've got three in my name, IBM's lawyers did the paperwork for me.
 
2021-09-26 12:06:41 PM  

revrendjim: "The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today."

This is false. The so called Big Bang theory says nothing about the origin of the universe. It describes the evolution of the universe after it already started.


The guy is very focused on a "static" system. I don't see where he explains how it came into being. That's the answer we really care about.

Maybe it's God. Where did God come from? Ad infinitum.
 
2021-09-26 12:07:09 PM  
Look, you might not like the show, but it clearly happened. It even had a spin off!
 
2021-09-26 12:55:14 PM  
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2021-09-26 1:03:38 PM  

plecos: Pocket Ninja: He earned a patent on new mask technology in 1973, but said he was unable to gain traction as he spent a few years trying to sell his idea - he couldn't induce the wide-scale adoption he had hoped for.

"He once invented something that demonstrably had no viability on the open market and was unable to attract even the most paltry outside investments, which clearly means that he is an unrecognized genius and we are all fortunate that we have a new opportunity to hear his words and learn from his shadow greatness."

No one "earns" a patent.  I am attached to a couple myself...you just have to hire a lawyer to help you file (at least that's the easier route.)


You do have to "earn" it by convincing an examiner that it sounds useful and includes references to any previous patents dealing with the same general topic. You can't just file any random garbage unless you restrict it to being a "design patent". Or if it's a software patent where you can string together enough word salad for a "baffle them with bullshiat" strategy to be successful.
 
2021-09-26 1:04:04 PM  

HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.


I still use a sextant for navigation
 
2021-09-26 1:04:10 PM  
It is embarrassing to live in an era so dominated by cranks and charlatans.
 
2021-09-26 1:05:23 PM  
"...and a series of volumes of his self-published book line shelves..."

uh oh.
 
2021-09-26 1:08:41 PM  

Rene ala Carte: "What a dumba$$"

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Yeah, Physics Girl portraying ol' Al would agree.
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2021-09-26 1:11:41 PM  
I'm more curious to see his perpetual motion device.
 
2021-09-26 1:18:46 PM  
Other people's assumptions are irrational.
 
2021-09-26 1:28:04 PM  

edmo: revrendjim: "The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today."

This is false. The so called Big Bang theory says nothing about the origin of the universe. It describes the evolution of the universe after it already started.

The guy is very focused on a "static" system. I don't see where he explains how it came into being. That's the answer we really care about.

Maybe it's God. Where did God come from? Ad infinitum.


I think the question is really what was there before?  Before the static universe or the Big Bang.
 
2021-09-26 1:29:16 PM  

HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.


It is not hard to imagine something more routinely wrong. They have their own network remember
 
2021-09-26 1:32:19 PM  
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And if Immanuel Velikovsky says it's true....
 
2021-09-26 1:33:12 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.

I still use a sextant for navigation


I'm forced to use a nosextant.
 
2021-09-26 1:37:20 PM  
Funny, the article doesn't mention any of his other books, like the one where pulsars are a warning from aliens of a galactic core breach or the one where NASA is covering up antigravity technology.
 
2021-09-26 1:40:31 PM  

aaronx: It is embarrassing to live in an era so dominated by cranks and charlatans.


Welcome to all of human history.
 
2021-09-26 1:43:41 PM  
I would like to ask him to show how his theory describes the CMB. With math, please.
 
2021-09-26 1:45:21 PM  
I wish he was right. The Big Bang is just a minstrel show but with nerds.

HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.


Yeah, a lot of creationists use that one to try to explain away the billion year light we see.
 
2021-09-26 2:00:27 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I still use a sextant for navigation


Agreed. Gotta move with the times. The sextent was fun for a while but we didn't really go  anywhere else.
 
2021-09-26 2:01:57 PM  
I believe I banged Milla Jovovich. But it doesn't make it true.

I mean I banged someone behind the dumpster at Dennys. I was pretty damn drunk at the time.  I'm pretty sure she said her name was Milla. Or was it Milton? Hmm....
 
2021-09-26 2:07:49 PM  

HugeMistake: plecos: Pocket Ninja: He earned a patent on new mask technology in 1973, but said he was unable to gain traction as he spent a few years trying to sell his idea - he couldn't induce the wide-scale adoption he had hoped for.

"He once invented something that demonstrably had no viability on the open market and was unable to attract even the most paltry outside investments, which clearly means that he is an unrecognized genius and we are all fortunate that we have a new opportunity to hear his words and learn from his shadow greatness."

No one "earns" a patent.  I am attached to a couple myself...you just have to hire a lawyer to help you file (at least that's the easier route.)

I've got three in my name, IBM's lawyers did the paperwork for me.


My dad was member of the "Oklahoma Inventor's Congress" most of his professional life.  He "invented" quite a few products, but never got a patent.  His view on patented inventions was pretty practical and modest, though, and centered around OPM: Other People's Money.

He told me the principle / test of OPM was, "If you've got a really good idea, other people with see this and pay for your patent, production and promotion."
 
2021-09-26 2:08:03 PM  
How does this jive with Time Cube?
 
2021-09-26 2:10:49 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: How does this jive with Time Cube?


The word is "jibe".  To be in accordance with.
 
2021-09-26 2:15:11 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: How does this jive with Time Cube?


Or Time Baby?
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2021-09-26 2:16:44 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: How does this jive with Time Cube?


Shirley, you jest.
 
2021-09-26 2:16:48 PM  
"The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today. "

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

The history of our observable universe traces back to a single point of energy.  You cannot leave that word out, it is of critical importance.  The universe shows every sign of being geometrically flat and infinite in dimension to the best of our ability to determine.  It was an infinite expanse of infinitely dense energy, then it expanded and cooled.  It's insane, but so is most stuff that happens beyond the limits of normal human scales of perception.
 
2021-09-26 2:27:22 PM  

wxboy: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.

I still use a sextant for navigation

I'm forced to use a nosextant.


So you're an incelestial?
 
2021-09-26 2:39:04 PM  
So, subby's mom didn't get lucky?
 
2021-09-26 2:42:08 PM  

edmo: revrendjim: "The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today."

This is false. The so called Big Bang theory says nothing about the origin of the universe. It describes the evolution of the universe after it already started.

The guy is very focused on a "static" system. I don't see where he explains how it came into being. That's the answer we really care about.

Maybe it's God. Where did God come from? Ad infinitum.


Turtles all the way down.
 
2021-09-26 2:52:27 PM  
It's Creationist nonsense disguised as "science".
 
2021-09-26 2:54:43 PM  
Whiskey tango foxtrot?

Dude claims general relativity is wrong despite the century or so of continued validation of the theory, and offers no evidence to support his claim. Claims black hoes do not exist, despite decades of evidence supporting their existence- including direct observation. Dude's "theory" also fails to provide any means to account for the observed phenomena surrounding black holes. Dude claims red shift is merely photons losing energy as they travel, but there's no evidence supporting that claim, or even a description of the process by which photons would somehow lose energy. Most of TFA is spent pumping this guy up as some sort of genius, but fails to mention how his "theories" account for millennia of observed phenomena.

Relativity and quantum mechanics offer the best description so far of how the universe works. We have built machinery and systems which would not function if the Standard Model was inaccurate. Dude's "theories" don't appear to have any testable predictions attached (at least, none were mentioned in TFA).

Misunderstood geniuses do exist, but merely being misunderstood is insufficient to make you one. I suspect the dude's real problem is the scientific community does understand him and his unsupported speculation. Evidence and testable predictions are the only things which will convince scientists of the validity of your claims.
 
2021-09-26 3:09:37 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: Funny, the article doesn't mention any of his other books, like the one where pulsars are a warning from aliens of a galactic core breach or the one where NASA is covering up antigravity technology.


Yeah, this. Dude is fond of making claims based on a few flimsy wisps of nothing much, then refusing to apply any scientific method to his claims. The math is elegant, and that's far more important than reality. The wingnut sectors of the internet cling desperately to this loon's unsupported speculation to support their equally guanopsychotic conspiracy bullshiat. The books pictured with the author in TFA are full of woo: Genesis of the Cosmos, Decoding the Message of the Pulsars, Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion.
 
2021-09-26 3:09:45 PM  
Tired light is one of the more tired quack ideas.


"The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today."

That is so bad on so many levels. The big bang theory does not in anyway suggest the universe was formed by an explosion. The author is imaging everything was in one point in space. That is something that astronomers repeatedly say is not the case.
 
2021-09-26 3:10:41 PM  

HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.


Did you see the "antigravity propulsion" book he was leaning on?  Kind of a giveaway that you don't have to read the article.

Ivo Shandor: plecos: Pocket Ninja: He earned a patent on new mask technology in 1973, but said he was unable to gain traction as he spent a few years trying to sell his idea - he couldn't induce the wide-scale adoption he had hoped for.
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You do have to "earn" it by convincing an examiner that it sounds useful and includes references to any previous patents dealing with the same general topic. You can't just file any random garbage unless you restrict it to being a "design patent". Or if it's a software patent where you can string together enough word salad for a "baffle them with bullshiat" strategy to be successful.


Since when is the "useful" requirement an issue?  Maybe it is just waived for huge corporations.  This is especially clear when the "usefulness" is explicitly tied to DRM: "just use our patented signalling system and the chip will know you are licensed".

I know things got marginally better after Oracle vs. Alphabet (the Java trial), but most of it has to do with being original (literally unpublished/undocumented.  As long as nobody published  it before you are golden) and documenting what it builds on (I think most BS artists flub this and it can be used in court cases against them).
 
2021-09-26 3:14:20 PM  
I actually live in Niskayuna New York too. We have a lot of cranks around here. In my small neighborhood we have two houses with signs demanding that creation be taught in schools and one nimrod with a GOP licence plate and who has had multiple  big Trump flags out.

So yeah, put me down as dubious...
 
2021-09-26 3:18:59 PM  

HugeMistake: I read the article so you don't have to.

Theory: "tired light" causes red shift. GR is wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.

Published in: Predatory journal deliberately named to cause confusion with actual reputable journal.

If you're wondering how credible this theory is, consider this: Every time anybody on the planet ever uses a GPS navigation device, it disproves his theory. It's hard to imagine something that is more routinely wrong.


To say nothing of that modern chemistry is heavily dependent on quantum mechanics.
 
2021-09-26 3:20:08 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Since when is the "useful" requirement an issue? Maybe it is just waived for huge corporations. This is especially clear when the "usefulness" is explicitly tied to DRM: "just use our patented signalling system and the chip will know you are licensed".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility​_​(patent) , in theory.
 
2021-09-26 3:28:53 PM  

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And if Immanuel Velikovsky says it's true....


Now that is a name I have not heard in a long time.
 
2021-09-26 3:35:58 PM  
No black holes? That's not gonna work for me. I need black holes.
 
2021-09-26 3:37:25 PM  

AstroJesus: No black holes? That's not gonna work for me. I need black holes.


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2021-09-26 3:52:08 PM  

edmo: revrendjim: "The Big Bang theory basically holds that the history of our universe traces back to a single point of energy that exploded into existence and over a long period of time expanded into the universe we know today."

This is false. The so called Big Bang theory says nothing about the origin of the universe. It describes the evolution of the universe after it already started.

The guy is very focused on a "static" system. I don't see where he explains how it came into being. That's the answer we really care about.

Maybe it's God. Where did God come from? Ad infinitum.


Even if Big Bang is 100% true, it pushed the origin question back further.  How did the point source get there - from whence did it come?  And what was there before that.  Did our initial singularity of a universe just pop into being spontaneously with Time and Everything beginning then?  Did it bleed over from some other universe, dimension or reality?  If so, how did all *that* come about?

OK, back to your regularly scheduled infinitum.
 
2021-09-26 3:54:05 PM  
Sadly that show was on for years
 
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