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2021-09-25 4:56:14 PM  
I do not consent to driver's licences, air bags, seat belts or wearing my glasses because my clear vision range is about six inches in front of my eyes.

My ancestors didn't need no fecking licence to drive a team of oxen and a cart at three miles per hour, so why should tyranny forbit me to drive 180 mph in a residential/School zone while blinder than a near-sighted shetland pony that isn't groomed regularly.
 
2021-09-25 5:40:03 PM  
A Department of Licensing audit report obtained by KING 5 alleges some applicants who bought passing grades did not know basic driving skills.

Then they'll fit right in in the PNW.
 
2021-09-25 7:55:12 PM  
Paul Lynde & Elizabeth Montgomery in "Bewitched"
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2021-09-25 8:42:01 PM  

brantgoose: I do not consent to driver's licences, air bags, seat belts or wearing my glasses because my clear vision range is about six inches in front of my eyes.

My ancestors didn't need no fecking licence to drive a team of oxen and a cart at three miles per hour, so why should tyranny forbit me to drive 180 mph in a residential/School zone while blinder than a near-sighted shetland pony that isn't groomed regularly.


magnuffisently sed
 
2021-09-25 9:14:52 PM  
I think they should tie Steve Wong to the font bumper of a car driven by a random collection of his students. If they passed fairly, he should be perfectly safe, even with parallel parking.
 
2021-09-25 9:17:17 PM  
Yeah people are gonna die from this.

/wear your seatbelt
 
2021-09-25 9:18:10 PM  
When did George Ryan become the governor of Washington?
 
2021-09-25 9:18:15 PM  
My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test? I think most states' tests are set up to where even a blind person could pass.
 
2021-09-25 9:19:02 PM  

brantgoose: I do not consent to driver's licences, air bags, seat belts or wearing my glasses because my clear vision range is about six inches in front of my eyes.

My ancestors didn't need no fecking licence to drive a team of oxen and a cart at three miles per hour, so why should tyranny forbit me to drive 180 mph in a residential/School zone while blinder than a near-sighted shetland pony that isn't groomed regularly.


I'm not driving! I'm traveling!
 
2021-09-25 9:19:44 PM  
Having a car with a mangled back bumper parked in front of your "driving school" is probably not the best idea.
 
2021-09-25 9:23:26 PM  
Who thinks shelling out $4k is easier than just learning to drive?
 
2021-09-25 9:27:58 PM  
DOL investigators also found the school sold the passing grades to applicants who never took tests at all, and in some cases, did not know basic driving rules.

Hell, I see people like that fairly frequently. fark, tonight in the two times I travelled downtown for a short time I saw a guy blow past a stop sign & speed down the hill, I'm pretty certain same guy from the previous pull a freaking U turn for no reason at all at the bottom of the hill, a guy gun it around TWO corners in order to get his tires to screech/smoke...
 
2021-09-25 9:30:54 PM  
The owner Steve Wong and I heard his brother as well,   That's too bad because two Wong's don't  make it right.
 
2021-09-25 9:31:35 PM  

Bootleg: A Department of Licensing audit report obtained by KING 5 alleges some applicants who bought passing grades did not know basic driving skills.

Then they'll fit right in in the PNW.


Those of you who think PNW drivers are bad drivers are the most sheltered drivers on the goddamn planet.
 
2021-09-25 9:32:11 PM  

Fear the Clam: I think they should tie Steve Wong to the font bumper of a car driven by a random collection of his students. If they passed fairly, he should be perfectly safe, even with parallel parking.


Students get bumper stickers that say

I LEARNED TO DRIVE THE WONG WAY
 
2021-09-25 9:35:20 PM  
Digging further, DOL investigators found out a Washington State Trooper in Thurston County pulled over a driver in July 2019 for a lane change violation. Upon turning on lights and sirens and "multiple law enforcement officers" pursuing the driver for ten miles, the driver did not immediately stop, according to the report.

That driver is lucky they weren't pulled from the car and shot dead.
 
2021-09-25 9:36:03 PM  

Billy Liar: Fear the Clam: I think they should tie Steve Wong to the font bumper of a car driven by a random collection of his students. If they passed fairly, he should be perfectly safe, even with parallel parking.

Students get bumper stickers that say

I LEARNED TO DRIVE THE WONG WAY


Along with "WONG BROTHERS DRYCLEANING. TWO WONGS MAKE IT WHITE."
 
2021-09-25 9:37:09 PM  
Explains a lot
 
2021-09-25 9:37:16 PM  
Greater Vancouver? 🤔
 
2021-09-25 9:37:39 PM  

Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test?


Parallel Parking, mainly.
 
2021-09-25 9:38:13 PM  
Is Wong a Chinese fella? Were his clients primarily Chinese folks?  Is that what this article is trying to imply, without saying it out loud?
 
2021-09-25 9:39:53 PM  
Has anyone noticed the owner's last name and made a joke about it yet?
 
2021-09-25 9:40:24 PM  

woodjf: Greater Vancouver? 🤔


If you consider Seattle part of Vancouver.
 
2021-09-25 9:45:42 PM  
Wong has the longest tong in Seattle.
 
2021-09-25 9:46:51 PM  
Jokes on you all who think needing a driver license to drive a car is necessary for the future. Auto drive is the wave of the future!

/Seattle native, kinda kidding
//I've driven in most of this hemisphere
and live 3 month of the year in DC, Seattle drivers are the worst
///Left lanes are not for reloading your bowl, Washingtonians
 
2021-09-25 9:56:21 PM  
In Seattle? Only 2000? Color me shocked.
 
2021-09-25 9:56:25 PM  
My boss?  Oh, wrong state.

Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test? I think most states' tests are set up to where even a blind person could pass.


It's surprisingly easy to fail. If you hit something like a curb, for instance, it's an automatic fail. Or if you can't stall or reverse park after repeated (5+) attempts. Or cut someone off in traffic, or wait too long at a green light before going. Or going 20 in a 40 zone or 50 in a 30 zone. Or go on wrong side of the road and almost hit oncoming car head-on. Lots of novice driver errors get made but inspectors pass them, so they have to be dangerous or extreme to fail. We even had a student fail before leaving our parking lot, they were that bad. Every state is different, but those are some that happen here.
 
2021-09-25 10:05:59 PM  
Have you been on American roads? Most people who pass don't know basic driving rules.
 
2021-09-25 10:06:32 PM  
Ancient Chinese secret  hmmmmm
 
2021-09-25 10:11:40 PM  

notgonnatellu: //I've driven in most of this hemisphere
and live 3 month of the year in DC, Seattle drivers are the worst


you really must be delusional.  seattle drivers are not 1/10th as bad as drivers in ANY state east of the mississippi
 
2021-09-25 10:25:13 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: My boss?  Oh, wrong state.

Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test? I think most states' tests are set up to where even a blind person could pass.

It's surprisingly easy to fail. If you hit something like a curb, for instance, it's an automatic fail. Or if you can't stall or reverse park after repeated (5+) attempts. Or cut someone off in traffic, or wait too long at a green light before going. Or going 20 in a 40 zone or 50 in a 30 zone. Or go on wrong side of the road and almost hit oncoming car head-on. Lots of novice driver errors get made but inspectors pass them, so they have to be dangerous or extreme to fail. We even had a student fail before leaving our parking lot, they were that bad. Every state is different, but those are some that happen here.


Didn't fail, but got points off because the windshield wasn't clean enough for the examiner.
 
2021-09-25 11:01:09 PM  
Imagine needing to cheat your way into getting your DL. My test in 2002 consisted of 50 multiple choice questions and and a 3 minute drive around the local strip mall parking lot through a safety town type drivers course.
 
2021-09-26 12:17:02 AM  

Billy Liar: Didn't fail, but got points off because the windshield wasn't clean enough for the examiner.


He was going to eat off it?
 
2021-09-26 12:46:15 AM  

Kazan: Bootleg: A Department of Licensing audit report obtained by KING 5 alleges some applicants who bought passing grades did not know basic driving skills.

Then they'll fit right in in the PNW.

Those of you who think PNW drivers are bad drivers are the most sheltered drivers on the goddamn planet.


Not so much bad, but oblivious...and they love foghat-ing the left lane of freeways.
 
2021-09-26 12:52:47 AM  
Whether you have a license or not I think most people know better. You don't have to pass a driving test to know you're supposed to stop at stop signs and red lights. I'll admit sometimes yellow lights are a bit of a judgement call but I've found erring on the side of caution to be a good strategy.

I saw an 18 wheeler flatten something and watched the paramedics haul someone away in an ambulance one morning.  I'm not even sure who ran the red light but either the truck driver or the guy who whose car was totaled did.

I'm all for RLCs. The ones I've seen are very lenient.  I laughed at a friend who got at least 3 tickets after they put one up near where we lived. I still haven't gotten any.  Red light runners just slow down traffic and endanger all our lives.

And sometimes make us late for work.
 
2021-09-26 1:03:28 AM  

ficklefkrfark: Kazan: Bootleg: A Department of Licensing audit report obtained by KING 5 alleges some applicants who bought passing grades did not know basic driving skills.

Then they'll fit right in in the PNW.

Those of you who think PNW drivers are bad drivers are the most sheltered drivers on the goddamn planet.

Not so much bad, but oblivious...and they love foghat-ing the left lane of freeways.


See this is what I keep getting from people who complain about one drivers.


You guys are always complaining about them INCONVENIENCING you.   East of the Mississippi it's DANGEROUS DRIVERS.

I'll take a slow but predictable driver over unpredictable twitchy speed demons every day.
 
2021-09-26 1:08:12 AM  
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2021-09-26 2:20:31 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Has anyone noticed the owner's last name and made a joke about it yet?


Yes, was that Wong? Should I not have done that?
 
2021-09-26 2:22:19 AM  

Kazan: notgonnatellu: //I've driven in most of this hemisphere
and live 3 month of the year in DC, Seattle drivers are the worst

you really must be delusional.  seattle drivers are not 1/10th as bad as drivers in ANY state east of the mississippi


Yeah, gonna go with the other guy here. I'd put Seattle drivers up there with Chicago's finest.
 
2021-09-26 6:58:32 AM  
And the consequences from this are what? The best the article lists is *GASP* A LANE CHANGE VIOLATION! Fetch me my fainting couch.
 
2021-09-26 6:59:24 AM  

WDFark think for a second: Yeah people are gonna die from this.

/wear your seatbelt


Oh, whatever. People die from regularly licensed drivers and you don't have much concern there.
 
2021-09-26 7:01:24 AM  

GrinzGrimly: Who thinks shelling out $4k is easier than just learning to drive?


If there are "language barriers" like what is listed in the article, it's possible there are customers from nations where corruption is endemic. They might genuinely think the process to get a license is go pay your bribe because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ that's what people do back home.
 
2021-09-26 7:05:50 AM  

Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test? I think most states' tests are set up to where even a blind person could pass.


Be Asian and get a racist tester. That's what happened to my coworker's wife. She's Filipina and went to the DMV in the small farm town the county over from us, because that's where about 50% of seniors go to get licensed. It's a town with one stoplight and the testers take it easy on the retired folks. Anyways, she's driving and a school bus coming the other way flips on flashing yellows as it slows. The instructor fails her for not stopping even though flashing yellows is a caution symbol that the bus will soon stop. Flashing red lights and a STOP arm extended means stop, but not flashing yellow lights.

So, yeah. Racism will get you failed.
 
2021-09-26 9:03:23 AM  

NINEv2: Kazan: notgonnatellu: //I've driven in most of this hemisphere
and live 3 month of the year in DC, Seattle drivers are the worst

you really must be delusional.  seattle drivers are not 1/10th as bad as drivers in ANY state east of the mississippi

Yeah, gonna go with the other guy here. I'd put Seattle drivers up there with Chicago's finest.


Not even close.
 
2021-09-26 10:44:56 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test?

Parallel Parking, mainly.


I bombed the parallel parking and still got my DL on the first try.

/was driving my dad's Silverado which I didn't have any practical experience with, I owned a car but the turn signal relay decided to fail that morning before the test so they wouldn't allow me to drive it, didn't have time to fix it.
//This was in 1998. Times have changed.
 
2021-09-26 10:59:07 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test?

Parallel Parking, mainly.


Mid-80s Caprice Classic. I didn't fail but it was pretty close. I only really learned parallel parking a couple summers later doing construction (demolition, mostly) on a Brownstone in NW DC. Had to move that car every two hours.

/On the same job I told them I could drive stick when I really had only a glancing knowledge of it. You learn real quick when you're doing a three point turn on Connecticut Ave in rush hour traffic in a trash truck.
 
2021-09-26 11:01:15 AM  

TheCableGuy: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test?

Parallel Parking, mainly.

I bombed the parallel parking and still got my DL on the first try.

/was driving my dad's Silverado which I didn't have any practical experience with, I owned a car but the turn signal relay decided to fail that morning before the test so they wouldn't allow me to drive it, didn't have time to fix it.
//This was in 1998. Times have changed.


Taking the drivers test in a Silverado is ballsy. You should get extra credit just for the attempt.
 
2021-09-26 11:21:50 AM  

morg: TheCableGuy: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Catsaregreen: My question is: How in the hell do you fail a driving test?

Parallel Parking, mainly.

I bombed the parallel parking and still got my DL on the first try.

/was driving my dad's Silverado which I didn't have any practical experience with, I owned a car but the turn signal relay decided to fail that morning before the test so they wouldn't allow me to drive it, didn't have time to fix it.
//This was in 1998. Times have changed.

Taking the drivers test in a Silverado is ballsy. You should get extra credit just for the attempt.


Why's that? (serious question.)

I owned a Olds Delta 88 Royale Supreme - with the landau cover (big boat) that I had bought about a year prior, had a ton of experience and did all my behind-the-wheel hours in.  I could PP that puppy like nobody's business. The only thing I was docked on with the driving test with the Silverado was the parallel parking, the evaluator said that's generally an automatic fail but I think they felt bad for my situation and I was an otherwise very capable driver tossed into a vehicle I had no experience with and still did very well.

I never saw driving the truck as that big of a deal, just played the cards that were dealt to me that day. The Oldsmobile was longer and took more skill to navigate properly than the Silverado did.

I also owned an 81 Z28 (350 big block with the 4 BBL and 4 speed manual) at the time that worked fine but we thought it best not to use that for the exam.
The Oldsmobile was the 4th vehicle I owned by my 16th birthday.  (Ford E150 that had been converted to a camper when I was 14 and a different Oldsmobile, Cierra international that was a really neat car.

/Eventually owned an Olds Alero Final 500 Edition as well. I have a thing for Oldsmobiles.
 
2021-09-26 12:12:13 PM  

TheCableGuy: Why's that? (serious question.)


I'm probably confused then, I thought a Silverado was one of those giant suburbans. Might as well be driving a commercial truck.
 
2021-09-26 1:01:32 PM  

Kazan: notgonnatellu: //I've driven in most of this hemisphere
and live 3 month of the year in DC, Seattle drivers are the worst

you really must be delusional.  seattle drivers are not 1/10th as bad as drivers in ANY state east of the mississippi



Can confirm.

I moved to Seattle after living in Atlanta & Memphis. It was a nice change to actually be let in to merge, instead of having the person in the car next to you speed up and/or pull a gun on you.
 
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