Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(iNews (UK))   EU truck drivers: we're now closer to our homes, with better pay and working conditions, and don't have the hassle with short term visas and taxes taken out. What else you got, BoJo?   (inews.co.uk) divider line
    More: Followup, Europe, United Kingdom, European lorry drivers, European Union, Commercial item transport and distribution, EU drivers, expected relaxation of visa rules, part of the solution  
•       •       •

1879 clicks; posted to Politics » on 25 Sep 2021 at 9:41 PM (40 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



90 Comments     (+0 »)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2021-09-25 3:12:23 PM  
Hahahahahaha, hey, maybe they can get their "royal family" to drive the trucks.
 
2021-09-25 3:18:48 PM  
Enjoy. This is the most climate change action you are going to see from the Tories, well, ever.

It wasn't intentional? Well, neither was the Montreal Protocol which banned HFCs, which as it turned out, were powerful global warming gases. Or maybe I am thinking of the gases that caused acid rain. No, wait, those caused aerosol pollution that helped to fend off climate change while destroying people and buildings for decades.
 
2021-09-25 3:40:35 PM  
Willing to bet there are some Afghans that have the training for a HGV license and if offered a visa for themselves and their family to come to UK would gladly accept. Or try Belarus.
 
2021-09-25 5:51:00 PM  
Offering visas until Christmas Eve then get the fark out again?

Almost hard to believe that people won't want to take up that offer
 
2021-09-25 5:55:00 PM  

Gubbo: Offering visas until Christmas Eve then get the fark out again?

Almost hard to believe that people won't want to take up that offer


Well, The Technologies will take care of it after that.
 
2021-09-25 6:07:06 PM  
You done messed up, Mo-ro-ron!
 
2021-09-25 7:33:18 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 9:44:00 PM  
Lol, FAFO on a national level.
 
2021-09-25 9:45:39 PM  

Bslim: Hahahahahaha, hey, maybe they can get their "royal family" to drive the trucks.


Wouldn't be the first time either.
i.insider.comView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 9:48:56 PM  
Just waiting...
 
2021-09-25 9:50:47 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 9:52:06 PM  
Nothing like suffering a gas shortage when there isn't a shortage of gas.
 
2021-09-25 9:52:25 PM  

VisualiseThis: Just waiting...


i.gifer.comView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 9:52:52 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 10:00:43 PM  
Plus, you get to drive on the right side of the road.
 
2021-09-25 10:00:44 PM  
This is the (ran out of fingers) time that we have created this thread, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

It is, of course, great fun to tweak certain brittle people who put a lot of effort into making passionate arguments about this topic, but given that none of us get to live in the alternate universe where no one from Europe needs to be granted a visa today to enter the UK, I guess we don't actually know how much less pain there would be in that case. Too bad, really, it would be very interesting to compare.
 
2021-09-25 10:01:03 PM  
Oh look, another prediction come true.  Almost like those economists and political analysts knew something.
 
2021-09-25 10:07:58 PM  
If there was a plan going in, this might have turned out better.  Maybe.  But I'm not seeing any plan whatsoever.  Just Leave?  Leave.  Okay,

A plan might have prevented stupid decisions.
 
2021-09-25 10:09:48 PM  
"We demand better working conditions!"
>>"Thanks for letting us know. We sincerely hope you find them. Your job here will simply be replaced by a machine. Thanks again."
 
2021-09-25 10:12:11 PM  
Everyone chill - BoJo has this all worked out
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 10:14:52 PM  

recondite cetacean: If there was a plan going in, this might have turned out better.  Maybe.  But I'm not seeing any plan whatsoever.  Just Leave?  Leave.  Okay,

A plan might have prevented stupid decisions.


memecreator.orgView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 10:16:47 PM  

GrinzGrimly: "We demand better working conditions!"
>>"Thanks for letting us know. We sincerely hope you find them. Your job here will simply be replaced by a machine. Thanks again."


So where are the machines? There's a massive worker shortage and peons workers are holding out for higher wages, you'd think right now would be the perfect time to implement these machines we've been told are coming.
 
2021-09-25 10:17:41 PM  
I can't feel sorry for anyone who voted for anything a chucklefark like Boris is in charge of. He might be a guy playing a buffoon but he's also a dolt and a fool.
 
2021-09-25 10:18:51 PM  
Don't EU have their own shortage, post-covid? Even if it's not as bad as UK.
 
2021-09-25 10:19:59 PM  

jm105: GrinzGrimly: "We demand better working conditions!"
>>"Thanks for letting us know. We sincerely hope you find them. Your job here will simply be replaced by a machine. Thanks again."

So where are the machines? There's a massive worker shortage and peons workers are holding out for higher wages, you'd think right now would be the perfect time to implement these machines we've been told are coming.


It's those machines replacing cashiers. If you don't watch out, then they'll like continue replacing cashiers or something. I don't know. Either way, poor people deserve to be paid even less because self checkout.
 
2021-09-25 10:21:57 PM  
From what I heard, they're already looking further afield. Honestly, there really isn't much to draw EU drivers to the UK, even if the pay is fine. More likely they'll try to draw drivers from Asia, South America, or Africa.

Driving a lorry isn't that great of a job pay-wise or even in general. It's not a career you can really advance in (unless you specialize in driving hazardous loads, I suppose), it limits your options for food, forces you to sit even more than the average desk job, and it often keeps you away from friends and family.

And that's not even touching the issues with Dover.
 
2021-09-25 10:22:56 PM  
You're screwed, thank you, bye
Youtube Yi0uX2sZuFg
 
2021-09-25 10:24:07 PM  

nytmare: Don't EU have their own shortage, post-covid? Even if it's not as bad as UK.


If I recall correctly they have a shortage of about 400,000 drivers. For reference, the UK has a shortage of about 100,000, but the EU has about 7 times the population, so the shortage is proportionally less.
 
2021-09-25 10:29:00 PM  

nakmuay: VisualiseThis: Just waiting...

[i.gifer.com image 500x269]


Is there no "Summon Bevets" card for foppish dead-enders?
 
2021-09-25 10:35:49 PM  
Life in England is about to get more expensive. Somehow I know they will still find a way to afford way too much blow.
 
2021-09-25 10:37:21 PM  

jm105: GrinzGrimly: "We demand better working conditions!"
>>"Thanks for letting us know. We sincerely hope you find them. Your job here will simply be replaced by a machine. Thanks again."

So where are the machines? There's a massive worker shortage and peons workers are holding out for higher wages, you'd think right now would be the perfect time to implement these machines we've been told are coming.


It's almost like 'you'll just be replaced by automation' is a stupid farking argument used by entitled, greedy shiatheads who just don't want people to be properly compensated for their labor.

/If the technology existed and was scalable, they would have replaced those workers already.
//And if it happens, the answer is a UBI, not 'well, guess we better just fark the actual laborers over even harder'.
 
2021-09-25 10:42:50 PM  

GrinzGrimly: "We demand better working conditions!"
>>"Thanks for letting us know. We sincerely hope you find them. Your job here will simply be replaced by a machine. Thanks again."


If a job can be replaced by a machine, it will be eventually no matter what. Using automation as some sort of counterargument against paying people a living wage is a poor one, as the only difference will be if it happens in 2 years or 5 years, the job will be gone regardless. At that point it's about retraining either way.
 
2021-09-25 10:49:08 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: recondite cetacean: If there was a plan going in, this might have turned out better.  Maybe.  But I'm not seeing any plan whatsoever.  Just Leave?  Leave.  Okay,

A plan might have prevented stupid decisions.

[memecreator.org image 353x400]


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 11:01:46 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: recondite cetacean: If there was a plan going in, this might have turned out better.  Maybe.  But I'm not seeing any plan whatsoever.  Just Leave?  Leave.  Okay,

A plan might have prevented stupid decisions.

[memecreator.org image 353x400]


And it's even worse than that. Initially there was no plan - and the voters were sold a load of bullshiat about what leaving the EU meant.  But all the time they had since the vote to figure out what to do about the obvious issues that would need to be dealt with ... all of it was wasted pretending it would never happen. Their incompetence alone should lose them office but it isn't happening. It's like the majority of the UK is brain damaged.
 
2021-09-25 11:02:38 PM  
There is only one solution to this problem.

pics.filmaffinity.comView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 11:05:12 PM  

cefm: The Irresponsible Captain: recondite cetacean: If there was a plan going in, this might have turned out better.  Maybe.  But I'm not seeing any plan whatsoever.  Just Leave?  Leave.  Okay,

A plan might have prevented stupid decisions.

[memecreator.org image 353x400]

And it's even worse than that. Initially there was no plan - and the voters were sold a load of bullshiat about what leaving the EU meant.  But all the time they had since the vote to figure out what to do about the obvious issues that would need to be dealt with ... all of it was wasted pretending it would never happen. Their incompetence alone should lose them office but it isn't happening. It's like the majority of the UK is brain damaged.


One of the most frustrating part is that all of the rosie predictions about what brexit was going to be we're thoroughly debunked within two weeks of their being claimed.

A few hundred years ago Britain was the world power. Before the EU she was a regional power with Logistics issues all over the place. She prospered under the EU. Now she gets to go back to being a regional power surrounded by larger more successful collaborations of powers.

On the farm we would call this sucking the hind teat.
 
2021-09-25 11:26:41 PM  

Comic Book Guy: There is only one solution to this problem.

[pics.filmaffinity.com image 366x525]


Is...is that a real movie?
 
2021-09-25 11:41:39 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-25 11:45:52 PM  

LordJiro: If the technology existed and was scalable, they would have replaced those workers already.


This is not true.  It's actually:

"If the technology existed was scalable and cost sufficiently less that the infrastructure would result in a savings in less than a fiscal year, they would have replaced those workers already."

There are conditions possible where they may not want to invest automation yet if they think they can still get cheap enough human labour.
 
2021-09-25 11:51:43 PM  

Unsung_Hero: LordJiro: If the technology existed and was scalable, they would have replaced those workers already.

This is not true.  It's actually:

"If the technology existed was scalable and cost sufficiently less that the infrastructure would result in a savings in less than a fiscal year, they would have replaced those workers already."

There are conditions possible where they may not want to invest automation yet if they think they can still get cheap enough human labour.


And or it moves a liability off their spreadsheet.

"If it's not on the spreadsheet, it doesn't  exist"

Unfortunately this is a world wide problem (regarding trucks, drivers and the business models that underpin them), not just a brexit issue.
 
2021-09-26 12:02:16 AM  

Flappyhead: Oh look, another prediction come true.  Almost like those economists and political analysts knew something.


Alongside carpenters, weavers, average children, and the brighter dogs...
 
2021-09-26 12:03:22 AM  

VisualiseThis: Comic Book Guy: There is only one solution to this problem.

[pics.filmaffinity.com image 366x525]

Is...is that a real movie?


Yes, and it's not spectacular :)
 
2021-09-26 12:06:38 AM  

pdieten: This is the (ran out of fingers) time that we have created this thread, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

It is, of course, great fun to tweak certain brittle people who put a lot of effort into making passionate arguments about this topic, but given that none of us get to live in the alternate universe where no one from Europe needs to be granted a visa today to enter the UK, I guess we don't actually know how much less pain there would be in that case. Too bad, really, it would be very interesting to compare.


Done with CP; that lying jackass posted a year-old link in the last thread as "news"...and it said the opposite of what he claimed.
 
2021-09-26 12:22:11 AM  

Unsung_Hero: LordJiro: If the technology existed and was scalable, they would have replaced those workers already.

This is not true.  It's actually:

"If the technology existed was scalable and cost sufficiently less that the infrastructure would result in a savings in less than a fiscal year, they would have replaced those workers already."

There are conditions possible where they may not want to invest automation yet if they think they can still get cheap enough human labour.


In which case the human laborers should still be compensated properly, and if they're replaced by automation, retrained and otherwise assisted in getting a new job and surviving until they can.
 
2021-09-26 12:39:59 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-26 12:45:46 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: I can't feel sorry for anyone who voted for anything a chucklefark like Boris is in charge of. He might be a guy playing a buffoon but he's also a dolt and a fool.


People really should have paid more attention to the fact that he's never quit a job, he's always been fired.
 
2021-09-26 12:49:20 AM  

VisualiseThis: Comic Book Guy: There is only one solution to this problem.

[pics.filmaffinity.com image 366x525]

Is...is that a real movie?


I had the misfortune of watching Space Truckers with friends during a 'bad movie' weekend. It is really bad.

This is how you find out that Dennis Hopper is bad at picking acting jobs.
 
2021-09-26 1:13:30 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-09-26 1:14:18 AM  

Flappyhead: The Irresponsible Captain: I can't feel sorry for anyone who voted for anything a chucklefark like Boris is in charge of. He might be a guy playing a buffoon but he's also a dolt and a fool.

People really should have paid more attention to the fact that he's never quit a job, he's always been fired.


and usually for lying.
 
2021-09-26 2:06:58 AM  

Jurodan: nytmare: Don't EU have their own shortage, post-covid? Even if it's not as bad as UK.

If I recall correctly they have a shortage of about 400,000 drivers. For reference, the UK has a shortage of about 100,000, but the EU has about 7 times the population, so the shortage is proportionally less.


Also, the shortage in the EU is not enough for noticeable shortage.
 
Displayed 50 of 90 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.