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(Popular Science)   Hurricane Sam is the 18th named storm of the 2021 hurricane season ... and the fourth named storm this week alone. Gee, wonder if there's some climatological reason behind the increase in storms the past few years?   (popsci.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Tropical cyclone, hurricane season, Hurricane Sam, Atlantic Ocean, Wind, Leeward Islands, Lesser Antilles, Saturday afternoon  
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2021-09-25 8:06:37 AM  
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2021-09-25 8:08:47 AM  
It was all that butterfly's fault, stupid chaos theory!
 
2021-09-25 8:49:11 AM  
God is angry because I watched some trans porn last spring. My bad.
 
2021-09-25 8:50:34 AM  
2005 would like a word.
 
2021-09-25 8:52:40 AM  
Nope. No reason. Just like there's no Covid-19 and the vaccine is a con. Nothing we liberals say can possibly be true, and even if it is there's no way any conservative would ever admit it.

As we've seen, they'd rather die in agony with their middle finger held aloft (while begging for "prayer warriors") than save themselves and have to admit anyone left of Trump had the right of it.
 
2021-09-25 8:54:07 AM  
Have you guys ever seen so much mixed fabric and clam bakes?
 
2021-09-25 8:54:25 AM  
If only Trump had saved us from these storms by nuking that hurricane. We would all be better off as our skin blisters and slides right off the bone...mmmm bbq
 
2021-09-25 8:54:46 AM  
The Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation?
 
2021-09-25 8:57:37 AM  
This is when he'll find his leap home.
 
2021-09-25 8:57:44 AM  
beyond?
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2021-09-25 8:58:38 AM  
ummm, the 18th storm of any year starts with S. the point you ought to make is that it is happening this early.
I don't live in Texass, Florida or the gulf coast but have fun. make sure to drive three blocks to the store. whatever is convenient for you.
 
2021-09-25 8:59:57 AM  
Climate change.

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2021-09-25 9:00:27 AM  
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2021-09-25 9:01:43 AM  
I love the smirky response: The climate changes every day!

So we should do nothing to make this a better place?
 
2021-09-25 9:04:49 AM  
Except there is not an increase...fearmongersubby:

There is no strong evidence of increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes or major hurricanes, or of Atlantic basin-wide hurricanes or major hurricanes since the late 1800s

From the Conservaturds at...NOAA

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warm​i​ng-and-hurricanes/
 
2021-09-25 9:09:05 AM  
Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks! rage! blow! You cataracts and hurricanoes, spout Till you have drench'd our steeples, drown'd the cocks! - King Lear
 
2021-09-25 9:09:51 AM  
Subby, half of current human civilization as we know it could be destroyed by climate change and you will still have large amounts of people backing politicians that will still deny that it evenexists even as it killsthem.

Covid has brought this fact to light much clearer than anything else could have.
 
2021-09-25 9:11:05 AM  
Part of the problem is the change in naming conventions, Storms didn't used to have names until they became hurricanes. This led to situations where named hurricanes would make landfall out of alphabetical order, which confused the average news consumer. So they changed the rules to name everything which spun up to Tropical Storm status.

The other part of the problem is the fact storms are getting more frequent and more powerful as the oceans get warmer.

There was an article here on Fark a couple of days ago about the jet stream shifting north. This should reduce the eastward pressure on any storms headed toward North America, and increase the number of storms making landfall in the US. Mostly around the Gulf and Caribbean, but the US east coast as well.
 
2021-09-25 9:11:52 AM  
Gee, wonder if there's some climatological reason beyond the increase in storms the past few years?

Maps.  More maps now.

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2021-09-25 9:12:20 AM  
Telegram Sam already told us this decades ago
 
2021-09-25 9:12:26 AM  
Hurricane Sam is my main man
 
2021-09-25 9:13:25 AM  

vudukungfu: Telegram Sam already told us this decades ago


grrrr.   shakes fist again,
 
2021-09-25 9:16:45 AM  
The 4 in a week is expected.  It's September, the peak of the season, in a season that was already predicted to be above-average.
 
2021-09-25 9:17:18 AM  
Unfortunately a single guy from a small state has decided that sucking up to people that are part of the problem is more important than helping the planet as a whole, so the US won't be doing anything about it.
 
2021-09-25 9:30:05 AM  
I think "they" changed the way they register storms.....something about getting more money or something....THE ICUs ARE ALL EMPTY!!!!
 
2021-09-25 9:36:59 AM  
Yes, subby, there is a reason and the tobacco companies have come out and admitted it -- smoking causes climate change.
 
2021-09-25 9:44:57 AM  
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No one ever mentions the Quickening.
 
2021-09-25 9:58:15 AM  

Pinnacle Point: God is angry because I watched some trans porn last spring. My bad.


Is she angry because you stopped?
 
2021-09-25 10:01:20 AM  

wxboy: The 4 in a week is expected.  It's September, the peak of the season, in a season that was already predicted to be above-average.


June, too soon
July, stand by
August, look out you must
September, remember
October, all over

It's peak season, all right.
Right on schedule.

Multiple storms that gain named status is less critical than Category 3+s making landfall in a row.

The climate shift worry about Hurricanes is actually less the number of storms but how they are, or are not, steered by currents. Changes to the gulf stream could make us look back on past seasons as better times.
 
2021-09-25 10:01:24 AM  

wxboy: The 4 in a week is expected.  It's September, the peak of the season, in a season that was already predicted to be above-average.


The peak is August 15 to September 15, so it ended two weeks ago.
 
2021-09-25 10:04:37 AM  

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Came here to say this.

Ya farking morans.  The battle at the South Pole was only the most recent of many incursions.

This is preparation for the next wave.
 
2021-09-25 10:07:03 AM  
Keep counting. Tropical Storm Teresa is already of the east coast.
 
2021-09-25 10:09:16 AM  
With every new storm, there's a chance a Cat 5 will make a beeline for Mar-a-Lago and stall there for three days.
So keep praying.
 
2021-09-25 10:10:47 AM  
how about we stop naming storms?

the weather channel shoe horning the idea of naming winter storms for the sake of story telling has pretty much ruined the entire concept.

winter storm Thanos dropped 3 inches of snow on boston over night paralyzing the entire east coast of Canada and the United States
 
2021-09-25 10:24:37 AM  

WilderKWight: Nope. No reason. Just like there's no Covid-19 and the vaccine is a con. Nothing we liberals say can possibly be true, and even if it is there's no way any conservative would ever admit it.

As we've seen, they'd rather die in agony with their middle finger held aloft (while begging for "prayer warriors") than save themselves and have to admit anyone left of Trump had the right of it.


This is way too on the nose for comfort.
 
2021-09-25 10:26:34 AM  

Smoking GNU: Subby, half of current human civilization as we know it could be destroyed by climate change and you will still have large amounts of people backing politicians that will still deny that it evenexists even as it killsthem.

Covid has brought this fact to light much clearer than anything else could have.


You speak as if this were a hypothetical and not what was occurring as we speak.
 
2021-09-25 10:31:50 AM  
Meh.. storms happen.   Always have, always will, whether we are here or not.  Prepare as best you can and deal with it, because more are coming at some point... part of life.
 
2021-09-25 10:33:50 AM  

JAYoung: With every new storm, there's a chance a Cat 5 will make a beeline for Mar-a-Lago and stall there for three days.
So keep praying.


No

I will not pray for a Cat five to stall overland, anywhere, ever.

I might, however, give the neighbor lady a live chicken, some 10 penny nails, half a bolt of white linen and half a bottle of rum at each solstice and equinox to entice Mother Nature in her infinite patience to reclaim that part of the shore that was once, and will be again, more wetland and less sod.

She has had a vision where someone living in MarALago  watches from an upper tower as the surrounding lawns transform into a much needed estuary and wading birds stroll through empty lobbies and nest on 4 tops.

It's probably all the rum but it's a tale worth hearing now and then as the sun sets and candles are lit.
 
2021-09-25 10:37:40 AM  
"The purported link between extreme weather and global warming has captured the public imagination and attention of the mainstream media far more than any of the other claims made by the narrative of human-caused climate change." This is odd because data and analyses from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the U.N. body that climate alarmists in academic, political, and media circles continually cite as the authoritative source of information on climate change, confirm that "if there is any trend at all in extreme weather, it's downward rather than upward. Our most extreme weather, be it heat wave, drought, flood, hurricane or tornado, occurred many years ago, long before the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere began to climb at its present rate,"

Ralph Alexander, Ph.D in Physics, Oxford University

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinio​n​/news/ipcc-and-sceptics-agree-climate-​change-is-not-causing-extreme-weather
 
2021-09-25 10:38:58 AM  

MycroftHolmes: Smoking GNU: Subby, half of current human civilization as we know it could be destroyed by climate change and you will still have large amounts of people backing politicians that will still deny that it evenexists even as it killsthem.

Covid has brought this fact to light much clearer than anything else could have.

You speak as if this were a hypothetical and not what was occurring as we speak.


Nope, i'm talking exactly like it's gonna happen, and happening right now. Just like covid.
 
2021-09-25 10:43:45 AM  
Covid is a much clearer line from cause to and we STILL have morons chosing to ignore reality for mostly political reasons.  They'll never admit that we are in the midst of human caused climate change.
 
2021-09-25 10:45:51 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Except there is not an increase...fearmongersubby:

There is no strong evidence of increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes or major hurricanes, or of Atlantic basin-wide hurricanes or major hurricanes since the late 1800s

From the Conservaturds at...NOAA

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warmi​ng-and-hurricanes/


LANDFALLING hurricanes, ya nitwit.

I know people on fark don't read articles, but somehow you managed to read the article, and type it out... and then... promptly forgot it all before you hit send?

/We've had like a decade's worth of landfalling storms in the past couple years, but most have been tropical storms (which is why they don't count in that article)... but that's nothing to sneeze at... they tend to kill just as much with the insane flooding when they keep stalling out.  Which... everyone believes is because of climate change.  So you doubly fail.
 
2021-09-25 10:48:30 AM  

gilgigamesh: wxboy: The 4 in a week is expected.  It's September, the peak of the season, in a season that was already predicted to be above-average.

The peak is August 15 to September 15, so it ended two weeks ago.


Weather doesn't run on youre time-scale. It'll end when it stops, not before.
 
2021-09-25 10:52:33 AM  

Kolg8: "The purported link between extreme weather and global warming has captured the public imagination and attention of the mainstream media far more than any of the other claims made by the narrative of human-caused climate change." This is odd because data and analyses from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the U.N. body that climate alarmists in academic, political, and media circles continually cite as the authoritative source of information on climate change, confirm that "if there is any trend at all in extreme weather, it's downward rather than upward. Our most extreme weather, be it heat wave, drought, flood, hurricane or tornado, occurred many years ago, long before the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere began to climb at its present rate,"

Ralph Alexander, Ph.D in Physics, Oxford University

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion​/news/ipcc-and-sceptics-agree-climate-​change-is-not-causing-extreme-weather


Wow, the Heartland Institute, still doing the devil's work after all these years!

Remember when they were Big Tobacco's propaganda mouthpiece during the 90s?

Well, they moved on and found new masters to lie for - the Kochs, the Mercers, and the fossil fuel industry!
 
2021-09-25 10:57:04 AM  

WilderKWight: Nope. No reason. Just like there's no Covid-19 and the vaccine is a con. Nothing we liberals say can possibly be true, and even if it is there's no way any conservative would ever admit it.

As we've seen, they'd rather die in agony with their middle finger held aloft (while begging for "prayer warriors") than save themselves and have to admit anyone left of Trump had the right of it.


The worst part is, we're to the point now where we really should be starting to rebuild coastal cities to deal with the effects of climate change, but a significant chunk of the population still won't admit there is a problem.

Though, I thought that the effect of climate change was that the storms would be more powerful, not that there would necessarily be more of them. Last year there were 30 named storms, so we're actually pacing a bit behind that this year.
 
2021-09-25 10:59:24 AM  

Circusdog320: I love the smirky response: The climate changes every day!

So we should do nothing to make this a better place?


Anytime someone tells me that I ask them to explain the difference between climate and weather.

Usually they call me a socialist at that point, but sometimes they fumble around a bit first.
 
2021-09-25 11:12:27 AM  
UNC_Samuri, the article is from The Heartland Institute.  But the professor is citing the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.  Are that body "doing the devil's work," too?

I actually think they are . . . by advancing global socialism. But that's a discussion for another day.
 
2021-09-25 11:15:14 AM  
advancing global socialism

And another Genuine Differing Opinion shows it's colors.  No thanks for playing.
 
2021-09-25 11:25:00 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Except there is not an increase...fearmongersubby:

There is no strong evidence of increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes or major hurricanes, or of Atlantic basin-wide hurricanes or major hurricanes since the late 1800s

From the Conservaturds at...NOAA

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warmi​ng-and-hurricanes/


The jury is still out on whether there are more storms.  The effects of post-industrial carbon buildup really don't kick in till the 1970's and that's too short of a sample period to make any conclusions regarding storm frequency.

What's not in dispute is that the storms we have are stronger in intensity and are producing more rain.  Sea levels are rising, increasing storm surges.

This supports the theory that manmade carbon emissions are warming the climate, producing more energetic weather.
 
2021-09-25 11:42:06 AM  
Wonder if this season will be the one, where they exceed the Greek letters, and will have to start into the Hebrew ones?

Does that also mean that the hurricanes will all start moving right to left?
 
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