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(The Hill)   Biden: All right, hotshot, what do you want? Manchin: Um *smokebomb*   (thehill.com) divider line
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2021-09-23 11:05:34 AM  
Manchin isn't being paid to provide reasonable alternatives or to negotiate in good faith. He's being paid to obstruct.

He's currently earning every cent.
 
2021-09-23 11:19:38 AM  
Sure. Manchin has to go ask his Capitalist handlers what they want him to do.
 
2021-09-23 11:25:40 AM  
This is really getting old.
 
2021-09-23 11:27:24 AM  
"Biden: All right, hotshot, what do you want?"

Manchin: 'To be a dog in a manger.'
 
2021-09-23 11:28:22 AM  
"I wanna rock"
 
2021-09-23 11:28:40 AM  
Did Manchin show up to a battle of whits underarmed?
 
2021-09-23 11:29:16 AM  
In before moderates say we can't censure or punish Joe Manchin by stripping him of his committee seats because that would be like ceding the senate to the Republicans.
 
2021-09-23 11:29:22 AM  
JFC....The number is IRRELEVANT.  All that matters is our ability to pay it which of course we can.  The only people standing in the way are the legislature.  One half of which can eat all the dicks.
 
2021-09-23 11:29:37 AM  
"For the price of Epi-pens to continue its astronomical climb!"
 
2021-09-23 11:30:04 AM  
You know, the more time I spend on fark, the more I think these should be the ACTUAL headlines for the articles linked to.  Most times they manage to sum up the entirety of TFA in one succinct line.
 
2021-09-23 11:31:05 AM  
Attention.
 
2021-09-23 11:31:25 AM  

HugsAndPuppies: You know, the more time I spend on fark, the more I think these should be the ACTUAL headlines for the articles linked to.  Most times they manage to sum up the entirety of TFA in one succinct line.


It's The Hill ffs.

Just a placeholder for the discussion.
 
2021-09-23 11:31:34 AM  
Some loudmouthed liar was here yesterday saying that Manchin already committed to 2.7 trillion LOL
 
2021-09-23 11:31:47 AM  
What a master in negotiation that Biden guy is.
 
2021-09-23 11:32:28 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Manchin isn't being paid to provide reasonable alternatives or to negotiate in good faith. He's being paid to obstruct.

He's currently earning every cent.


It isn't just Manchin. It isn't even Manchin and Sinema. There are others hiding behind them (Hassan, Coons, etc.). If Manchin truly were the only impediment on the Dem side, he could be dealt with effectively enough. The problem is bigger than one or two Dem Senators, though.
 
2021-09-23 11:33:59 AM  
 
2021-09-23 11:35:19 AM  

Gaythiest Elitist: Giant Clown Shoe: Manchin isn't being paid to provide reasonable alternatives or to negotiate in good faith. He's being paid to obstruct.

He's currently earning every cent.

It isn't just Manchin. It isn't even Manchin and Sinema. There are others hiding behind them (Hassan, Coons, etc.). If Manchin truly were the only impediment on the Dem side, he could be dealt with effectively enough. The problem is bigger than one or two Dem Senators, though.


Not right now.

The immediate problem is Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema,
 
2021-09-23 11:35:53 AM  

The Drawing Board: What a master in negotiation that Biden guy is.


Maybe he hasn't mentioned yet to Manchin that he has a dead son. He's waiting for the last minute to pull out the big guns.
 
2021-09-23 11:36:30 AM  
Manchin wants to watch the world burn.


Coal preferably but any fossil fuel will do.
 
2021-09-23 11:36:40 AM  
"The quicker the better, but I'm not sure if they're going to get there," Manchin told reporters, adding that they could get a reconciliation bill "eventually."

"I can't tell you where the net is." says one of the only people who is actively wheeling it around in a random pattern.  "ExxonMobil's accountant team is currently snickering too much for me to understand them.  Plus all the money they are sliding over to me makes a lot of rustling sounds."
 
2021-09-23 11:36:44 AM  

Gaythiest Elitist: Giant Clown Shoe: Manchin isn't being paid to provide reasonable alternatives or to negotiate in good faith. He's being paid to obstruct.

He's currently earning every cent.

It isn't just Manchin. It isn't even Manchin and Sinema. There are others hiding behind them (Hassan, Coons, etc.). If Manchin truly were the only impediment on the Dem side, he could be dealt with effectively enough. The problem is bigger than one or two Dem Senators, though.


They are scapegoats and lightning rods.
 
2021-09-23 11:37:01 AM  
There isn't a number he'd agree with because he's already got everything he wants in the infrastructure bill. Everything else is pork to him.
 
2021-09-23 11:37:12 AM  
I will guarantee you that some Farker within an hour will come to his defense by saying something like "so you want McConnell as leader - got it", which deserves a simultaneous throat and cock punch.
 
2021-09-23 11:37:21 AM  
It's important that Progressives give up everything they stand for in order to make sure fake-Democrats can do their jobs and ensure the GQP controls legislation. As soon as they understand that, we can go back to comity in the Senate, which is, of course, the only important thing in the world, and until Progressives understand that their job is to shut up and do what they're told, the right-wing media will continue to say bad things about us.
 
2021-09-23 11:37:44 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: As Congress debates President Biden's "Build Back Better" agenda and negotiates a $3.5 trillion spending bill, at least one crucial part of the bill is being weakened. The House Energy and Commerce Committee cut Mr. Biden's original promise of $400 billion in funding for home- and community-based services by more than half, to $190 billion over 10 years.

So is Manchin a proxy for McConnell or what?


Joe Manchin isn't in the house.

Kathleen Rice, who was installed on Energy and Commerce by Nancy Pelosi in an overnight secret ballot in order to defeat AOC, is most certainly a proxy for the Republicans.
 
2021-09-23 11:38:09 AM  
I have been assured that the smokebomb is powered with WV coal.
 
2021-09-23 11:39:04 AM  
I think it's obvious what Joe Manchin wants. He wants the bipartisan bill to pass because that contains everything he wants, and he wants the reconciliation package to die a slow and horrible death because it contains nothing he wants.
 
2021-09-23 11:39:06 AM  
He wants to fark your shiat up, champ. Haven't you noticed yet?
 
2021-09-23 11:39:13 AM  
I wish the media would stop called these people "moderates".  They're conservatives who are masquerading as Democrats because the Republican Party has lost its farkin' mind.
 
2021-09-23 11:39:36 AM  
Keep pushing these MF'ers, keep it in the news. It probably won't affect Manchin because, well, WV voters.  But, with Enema and any other DINOs, keep pounding it up their asses to make sure their constituents know they aren't being represented. Then, send these useless farkwads packing. Enema needs to be greeting customers at Wallyworld after her next election cycle.
 
2021-09-23 11:40:16 AM  

lilbjorn: I wish the media would stop called these people "moderates".  They're conservatives who are masquerading as Democrats because the Republican Party has lost its farkin' mind.


That's what "moderates" are though.   Conservative Democrats.   Yes, even here at Fark.   Anything too "liberal" for them and you get a lecture.
 
2021-09-23 11:40:39 AM  
"I think a good reconciliation bill could be done whenever," [Manchin] said.

Thanks. That narrows things down.
 
2021-09-23 11:40:58 AM  

whidbey: lilbjorn: I wish the media would stop called these people "moderates".  They're conservatives who are masquerading as Democrats because the Republican Party has lost its farkin' mind.

That's what "moderates" are though.   Conservative Democrats.   Yes, even here at Fark.   Anything too "liberal" for them and you get a lecture.


They're not moderate in any sense of the word.
 
2021-09-23 11:41:14 AM  
Manchin hangs out with Republicans on weekends. He is not hiding who he is.
 
2021-09-23 11:41:28 AM  

The Drawing Board: What a master in negotiation that Biden guy is.


Maybe he should write a book about making deals.
 
2021-09-23 11:41:39 AM  

Snapper Carr: Manchin wants to watch the world burn.


Coal preferably but any fossil fuel will do.


Koch coal to be exact.
 
2021-09-23 11:43:10 AM  

Nick Nostril: Keep pushing these MF'ers, keep it in the news. It probably won't affect Manchin because, well, WV voters.  But, with Enema and any other DINOs, keep pounding it up their asses to make sure their constituents know they aren't being represented. Then, send these useless farkwads packing. Enema needs to be greeting customers at Wallyworld after her next election cycle.


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2021-09-23 11:43:34 AM  
"It's still a shame, it truly is a shame, that they're using that as a hostage toward this," Manchin said.

Taking bills hostage till their petty demands are met? It's like they think they are the 50th most conservative Democratic Senator or something. Just as our Founding Fathers intended, that's the key position in our system.

SMH
 
2021-09-23 11:43:35 AM  
"misanthropicsob 10 minutes ago
In before moderates say we can't censure or punish Joe Manchin by stripping him of his committee seats because that would be like ceding the senate to the Republicans."

Has anyone said that? It's brilliant, but I don't know what the voters would do. Write off the seat and be prepared to spend money outside your state till 2024.
 
2021-09-23 11:44:14 AM  
FTFA: "The quicker the better, but I'm not sure if they're going to get there," Manchin told reporters, adding that they could get a reconciliation bill "eventually."

"I think a good reconciliation bill could be done whenever," he said.



Spoken like a comfortable asshole millionaire who doesn't give a f*ck either way. Nice job, West Sh*tginia.
 
2021-09-23 11:45:00 AM  
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2021-09-23 11:45:23 AM  
Funny how he voted for all kinds of things when TFG was in charge, but now that his own party controls the levers of power, he just can't seem to find any common ground.
 
2021-09-23 11:46:19 AM  

Masakyst: Funny how he voted for all kinds of things when TFG was in charge, but now that his own party controls the levers of power, he just can't seem to find any common ground.


Dysfunctional poverty-ridden state, dysfunctional leadership.
 
2021-09-23 11:47:18 AM  
I bet the Jews progressives did this
 
2021-09-23 11:49:02 AM  
If my boss asks me to do something and I agree to work on it...I don't know that I'd call that a *smokebomb*

FTA: Biden's message was to "please just work on it. Give me a number."
 
2021-09-23 11:51:38 AM  

Nick Nostril: Enema needs to be greeting customers at Wallyworld after her next election cycle.


She will be. AZ voters are fully aware of her shiat and most of us are sick of it. The only support she gets is from Republicans. Shocking, I know...
 
2021-09-23 11:52:52 AM  

Avigdore: If my boss asks me to do something and I agree to work on it...I don't know that I'd call that a *smokebomb*

FTA: Biden's message was to "please just work on it. Give me a number."


Without outright saying this, I think Manchin has already done that. The number he supports is $0.
 
2021-09-23 11:52:59 AM  
How does the reporter let this shiat slide? No follow up? "Why dont you just write the bill instead of making vague pronouncements you bought and paid for fark?"
 
2021-09-23 11:53:39 AM  
"To hold up a bill that every part of this country needs doesn't make any sense at all," Manchin said,

Wow. Just wow - Yeah tell me more about how a holding up a bill doesn't this country desparately needs make sense  - my god your level of cognitive dissonance is truly astounding
 
2021-09-23 11:54:21 AM  
calling these motherfarkers 'moderate' is god damned editorializing.
 
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