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(Forbes)   FAA says it has "zero tolerance policy" for unruly passengers, but it's closer to a 4% tolerance policy   (forbes.com) divider line
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2021-09-22 4:13:37 PM  
They need to start throwing people in jail. Punching a flight attendant isn't a civil matter, it's a criminal one.
 
2021-09-22 6:32:04 PM  
 
2021-09-22 6:32:59 PM  
We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.
 
2021-09-22 6:35:01 PM  
This is simple, add video recorders like most busses have to all airlines. Then if you interfere with a flight crew they report you upon landing and you are immediately arrested and go directly to jail. You can appeal and the judge can review the video, but you know that you're going to jail no matter what. If there was a 100% chance of being arrested immediately and it became known I'm pretty sure about half of the nonsense would stop right away.
 
2021-09-22 6:36:09 PM  
"4% tolerance" would mean 96% prosecution, when the article describes the opposite. So really, it should be called "96% tolerance".

/picky...
 
2021-09-22 6:36:49 PM  
I thought 4% in the headline was a joke about the alcohol content of beer.
 
2021-09-22 6:38:37 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.


They would just throw their Champaign and diamond encrusted iPhone at the flight attendants.

Of course, as an alternative idea, airlines could start hitting bouncers to simply kick-out the troublemakers...
 
2021-09-22 6:39:13 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.


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2021-09-22 6:40:40 PM  
If any event happens in flight, land. When everyone complains, point at the arse and say - that one is the problem. Sorry to inconvenience everyone else.
When the plane lands arrest the arse, and then unload the entire plane, everyone through baggage claim to ensure that the luggage of the arse isn't staying on the plane to ensure some act of terrorism doesn't occur.
Any complaints - you don't get back on the plane.
Air travel should be harsh and unforgiving. Then all the passengers will keep each other in line, and the one arse will be shutdown by so many others around it that it can't disrupt the plane.
 
2021-09-22 6:41:30 PM  

Lsherm: They need to start throwing people in jail. Punching a flight attendant isn't a civil matter, it's a criminal one.


We're done here.
 
2021-09-22 6:41:43 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.


Ahem
In the latest of a series of high-profile disruptive passenger incidents on American Airlines this week, flight attendants duct-taped a first class passenger to her seat after she physically attacked them and tried to open the plane's door.
 
2021-09-22 6:42:14 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.


You've never met a group of rich douche canoes with entitlement issues. It happens to be a large group.
 
2021-09-22 6:43:13 PM  
Isn't that a 96% tolerance policy?
 
2021-09-22 6:47:11 PM  
3,199 of 4,385 incidents are anti-maskers but people keep talking about alcohol.

If you don't serve an anti-masker alcohol... they're still an anti-masker.

Fix the real problem.
 
2021-09-22 6:47:15 PM  
Ban Americans from air travel?
 
2021-09-22 6:47:47 PM  

robodog: 137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.

Ahem
In the latest of a series of high-profile disruptive passenger incidents on American Airlines this week, flight attendants duct-taped a first class passenger to her seat after she physically attacked them and tried to open the plane's door.


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2021-09-22 6:48:18 PM  

robodog: 137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.

Ahem
In the latest of a series of high-profile disruptive passenger incidents on American Airlines this week, flight attendants duct-taped a first class passenger to her seat after she physically attacked them and tried to open the plane's door.


An academic study of air rage incidents published in 2016 shed some light on the issue. It found that the presence of a first-class section made it 3.84 times more likely that someone in economy class would act out.
 
2021-09-22 6:49:16 PM  
The problem with "Mass Transit" is that first word.
 
2021-09-22 6:51:53 PM  
If you're on an airliner and the person next to you drops their pants, especially if giving the impression they will deliberately urinate in their seat, reach over there and rip their dick off then shove it in their mouth to shut them up.
 
2021-09-22 6:52:17 PM  

Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems: If you're on an airliner and the person next to you drops their pants, especially if giving the impression they will deliberately urinate in their seat, reach over there and rip their dick off then shove it in their mouth to shut them up.


Username checks out.

Agreed.
 
2021-09-22 6:54:18 PM  
Weirdly enough on my flight back from San Diego last weekend I sat next to an old lady who was hardcore antivaxer, she kept taking her mask off whenever the flight attendants weren't looking.

I was tired I admit, so I didn't call her out.  My giggling at how farking childish it was did catch the attention of the flight attendant though, who dealt with it.  I guess it's close enough.

/I know I should've called her out, but when I'm tired and down I don't really want to deal with a zealous fool.
 
2021-09-22 6:58:35 PM  

farker99: If any event happens in flight, land. When everyone complains, point at the arse and say - that one is the problem. Sorry to inconvenience everyone else.
When the plane lands arrest the arse, and then unload the entire plane, everyone through baggage claim to ensure that the luggage of the arse isn't staying on the plane to ensure some act of terrorism doesn't occur.
Any complaints - you don't get back on the plane.
Air travel should be harsh and unforgiving. Then all the passengers will keep each other in line, and the one arse will be shutdown by so many others around it that it can't disrupt the plane.


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2021-09-22 7:00:32 PM  
The article says "FAA" but the picture says "FFA".

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2021-09-22 7:02:35 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: The article says "FAA" but the picture says "FFA".

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The Future Farmers of America would have a large supply of pitch forks to hand out to the angry mob.
 
2021-09-22 7:05:15 PM  
According to a recent survey of flight attendants, over 85% had dealt with unruly passengers in the first half of 2021.

15% were worried their employer would find out they were complaining?
 
2021-09-22 7:06:06 PM  

genner: The Irresponsible Captain: The article says "FAA" but the picture says "FFA".

[Fark user image 425x509]

The Future Farmers of America would have a large supply of pitch forks to hand out to the angry mob.


The FFA would likely be WITH the anti-masker causing the initial problem
 
2021-09-22 7:07:51 PM  
How is it you don't get arrested for punching a flight attendant?
 
2021-09-22 7:17:16 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: robodog: 137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.

Ahem
In the latest of a series of high-profile disruptive passenger incidents on American Airlines this week, flight attendants duct-taped a first class passenger to her seat after she physically attacked them and tried to open the plane's door.

An academic study of air rage incidents published in 2016 shed some light on the issue. It found that the presence of a first-class section made it 3.84 times more likely that someone in economy class would act out.


You mean we can greatly reduce the number of air rage incidents by eliminating first-class? Ok, perfect.
 
2021-09-22 7:18:59 PM  
.04 is impressive I was going to go with a .008.
 
2021-09-22 7:25:50 PM  
Dollars over passenger comfort. No one likes flying. Tickets are cheap enough for almost anyone. No one likes the TSA or anything at the airport. Access to booze before you board. Added stress of traveling during a pandemic.

The only thing I'm surprised about is how anyone's surprised.
 
2021-09-22 7:33:34 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.


lol ok. The guy who got duct taped to his seat because he was being an unruly shiat screamed that his parents were worth $2M.
 
2021-09-22 7:37:56 PM  

fiddlehead: 137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.

lol ok. The guy who got duct taped to his seat because he was being an unruly shiat screamed that his parents were worth $2M.


Sounds like a coach quote if I've ever heard one. Business class, tops.
 
2021-09-22 7:40:11 PM  
wait, you expect me to behave myself on a plane just as i'm expected to behave myself on the ground!?

ATTICA! ATTICA1
 
2021-09-22 7:57:39 PM  
Put them all on the no-fly list, and behind the terrorists in the appeal process.
 
2021-09-22 8:01:28 PM  
I've taken many a shiat in questionable locations

On the floor of The Cambie in Vancouver and a camping section in a South Edmonton Canadian Tire are probably my worst ones,

But my favourite was amongst all the packed tubers on the Cowichan River, it floated faster than them so everyone freaked out and tossed it at one another.
 
2021-09-22 8:05:27 PM  

nursetim: Flight attendants are learning how to fight back.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/fli​ght-attendants-self-defense-training/i​ndex.html


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2021-09-22 8:34:54 PM  
Step one: ban the sale and consumption of all alcohol at airports and onboard airplanes.
 
2021-09-22 8:38:08 PM  

Lsherm: They need to start throwing people in jail. Punching a flight attendant isn't a civil matter, it's a criminal one.


It is, however the jurisdiction that it falls under is Federal, ergo the FAA needs to be involved.  Part of this problem is the systematic defunding of agencies that deal with pesky regulations (SEC, IRS, and CFPB amongst many, many others).  Restore their funding, give them the tools they need to go after people like this, and we'll see incidents like this drop significantly.
 
2021-09-22 8:39:32 PM  

Bertuccio: 3,199 of 4,385 incidents are anti-maskers but people keep talking about alcohol.

If you don't serve an anti-masker alcohol... they're still an anti-masker.

Fix the real problem.


But if you serve them alcohol it can make them more likely to make a scene.
 
2021-09-22 8:59:54 PM  
Half of these douchebags record themselves acting up so they can post it on YouTube for their 15 minutes of fame. That's because they can be the centers of attention, showing themselves stickin' it to the man until the police arrive and allow them to walk off the plane under their own power, usually while delivering their manifestos to their captive audience at the top of their lungs. The solution is to make it embarrassing for them. Immediate physical slap downs, followed by being dragged down the aisle. Grab the women by their hair and the men by their ankles and drag. If extensions are ripped out or pants are ripped off, so much the better. Crying, snot and blood should be involved, and feature prominently in mugshots. Then a mandatory minimum year in the nearest state prison.
 
2021-09-22 9:15:53 PM  

Mock26: Step one: ban the sale and consumption of all alcohol at airports and onboard airplanes.


Pilots have rights too!
 
2021-09-22 9:25:50 PM  
So flying air marshals aren't a thing anymore?  or only on International Flights?  That was one of my dream jobs years back...
 
2021-09-22 9:30:38 PM  

Bertuccio: 3,199 of 4,385 incidents are anti-maskers but people keep talking about alcohol.

If you don't serve an anti-masker alcohol... they're still an anti-masker.

Fix the real problem.


What an airplane anti-masker may look like:

a57.foxnews.comView Full Size
 
2021-09-22 11:55:20 PM  
MMA bros make fun of it but Aikido works great for bouncers without destroying the troublemaker and the bouncer looks clean on the cameras... and if you want to send le douche du jour to the hospital, you can make that happen too.

Fighting is bad, m'kay?

Airlines don't want the liability of fight attendants, I would think.  Messy topic.  COVID and the restrictions have really brought out the worst in people.
 
2021-09-22 11:56:55 PM  

Tom-Servo: Bertuccio: 3,199 of 4,385 incidents are anti-maskers but people keep talking about alcohol.

If you don't serve an anti-masker alcohol... they're still an anti-masker.

Fix the real problem.

What an airplane anti-masker may look like:

[a57.foxnews.com image 850x478]


Oofta.  Not a good look...
 
2021-09-23 1:11:25 AM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: 137 Is An Excellent Time: robodog: 137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.

Ahem
In the latest of a series of high-profile disruptive passenger incidents on American Airlines this week, flight attendants duct-taped a first class passenger to her seat after she physically attacked them and tried to open the plane's door.

An academic study of air rage incidents published in 2016 shed some light on the issue. It found that the presence of a first-class section made it 3.84 times more likely that someone in economy class would act out.

You mean we can greatly reduce the number of air rage incidents by eliminating first-class? Ok, perfect.


So you're solution is to make everyone uncomfortable instead of making everyone comfortable?

What are you daft?

Nah, I'd prefer the whole plane be international lay-flat first class rather than continue down the Greyhound of the skies idiocy we're currently on.

I fly infrequently enough where dropping a months' wages to fly comfortably is well worth never having to put up with cattle classes again.
 
2021-09-23 1:12:47 AM  

fiddlehead: 137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.

lol ok. The guy who got duct taped to his seat because he was being an unruly shiat screamed that his parents were worth $2M.


You don't need to be worth $2M to fly first class. Hell, I make like $1000/week and I always fly first class.

Ain't no way I'm taking the "cheap" seat and being subjected to that hell on Earth.
 
2021-09-23 4:47:28 AM  
Personally, I don't see why the f*ck people need to be travelling so much, unless it's for work or family emergencies. Stay  in your f*cking house.
 
2021-09-23 7:43:19 AM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: We just need to ban coach. Remove the cattle class and only sell the first class seats at the higher price.

Strangely, people who spend $1000 on a ticket aren't punching flight attendants in the face.


There are first class tickets for $1000?  For a 30 min flight or something?
 
2021-09-23 10:20:43 AM  

debug: There are first class tickets for $1000?  For a 30 min flight or something?


Toledo to Seattle. $900.

Quick sanity check.

LGA to LAX - $1039
BOS to ATL - $640
ORD to SFO - $825
SEA to MIA - $925

So, yeah. Do you not use Google Flights?
 
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