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2021-09-20 8:47:58 AM  
I would want to get everything in order - spend a few more good times with loved ones - and make preparations for a quick and merciful end before I deteriorated too far.
 
2021-09-20 8:48:11 AM  
YES  [NO]
 
2021-09-20 8:52:07 AM  
Alzheimer's - fate worse than death, followed by death.

Yeah, let me know and I'll skip right to the death part.
 
2021-09-20 9:05:29 AM  
Considering what my dad went through with Parkinsons before he passed, and what my mom is dealing with now with dementia, hell no.   I want to live my life without that hanging over my head, and deal with it when (if) the time comes.
 
2021-09-20 9:08:05 AM  

End_Of_Line: I would want to get everything in order - spend a few more good times with loved ones - and make preparations for a quick and merciful end before I deteriorated too far.


....and then join the Ghost Brigade.

/not even a teeny bit obscure
 
TWX
2021-09-20 9:18:46 AM  
If insurers are allowed to use preexisting conditions as a basis for denial of coverage, then hell no I don't want to know.

/fortunately alzheimer's disease does not appear to run in the family
//same with the wife's family
///so our daughter hopefully won't be burdened with those kinds of struggles with us
 
TWX
2021-09-20 9:20:04 AM  

Gramma: Alzheimer's - fate worse than death, followed by death.

Yeah, let me know and I'll skip right to the death part.


A coworker of mine's mother in law suffered with basically no mind for more than twenty years, while otherwise healthy as a horse.  It sounds like it was hell.
 
2021-09-20 9:30:10 AM  
PET scans are unbelievably expensive even with platinum insurance.
 
2021-09-20 9:34:55 AM  
It already has.  For everyone.
 
2021-09-20 9:54:18 AM  
there is a family history of severe mental deterioration in my family so i'm always on the lookout for signs.  having watched my grandmother spend the last 15 years of her life in a constant state of confusion/terror to say nothing of how it aged my grandfather, i've decided that isn't going to be me.  That diagnosis starts a clock of a few things to do followed by a graceful, psychedelic laden exit.
 
2021-09-20 9:54:21 AM  
Just suppose for a moment you were given that info and it was wrong or it was right but you had much more time than you were told.  Suppose in that time medicine had come up with something to control, reduce, slow or stop the disease.

Now try retrieving all those emotions, all that unnecessary worry, all that gut-wrenching misery you and your loved ones have gone through based on that info since before the disease noticeably began.

Get busy living or get busy dying - I know which one I'd choose.
 
2021-09-20 9:54:56 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: It already has.  For everyone.


So...as soon as one is born?

Alzheimer's/dementia/etc. doesn't run in my family, but I have thought a bit about it.

Upon diagnosis, I would do everything in my power to relocate to a "right to die" state and try to set up a living will that culminates in assisted suicide (Sarco device or something similar) once a certain level of disability is reached, as determined by some subset of the standard cognitive impairment tests out there.
 
2021-09-20 9:58:35 AM  
Honestly a tough call.

On the one hand I don't want to live through Alzheimer's and having the sword of Damocles hanging over my head could ruin my life by making me second-guess every decision I make or every minor lost thought.

On the other hand knowing that ahead of time can let you work through the fact that you will lose your faculties and handle it better.  Yes, rational thought is damaged but if you can move the concept that you are losing agency into your long-term memory BEFORE degrading I feel like the lucid moments at least can be more prepared in the rare times you're in the room.
 
2021-09-20 12:21:19 PM  

Gramma: Alzheimer's - fate worse than death, followed by death.

Yeah, let me know and I'll skip right to the death part.


As far as I know, Terry Pratchett was doing ok until something completely different (although probably related or opportunistic) took him out.  He was planning on dying before his self disappeared.
 
2021-09-20 12:46:42 PM  

Gramma: Alzheimer's - fate worse than death, followed by death.

Yeah, let me know and I'll skip right to the death part.


Not me, I'll have the cake.
 
2021-09-20 1:47:24 PM  
My parents - both 82 - are still of sound mind, so if there's anything genetic to it hopefully that's a burden that my family will not suffer. I have an uncle with Alzheimer's though. At the moment he still has more good days than bad.

I like to think my chief characteristic is my curiosity, it would be a real blow if I was faced with losing that. We have legalised assisted dying in New Zealand, so if the point comes where I want to make an exit there will be the option to go in a humane manner.
 
2021-09-20 2:04:34 PM  
I had a scan done and the time until onset of dementia was a negative number. It's total crap.
 
2021-09-20 2:41:18 PM  

olrasputin: Upon diagnosis, I would do everything in my power to relocate to a "right to die" state and try to set up a living will that culminates in assisted suicide (Sarco device or something similar) once a certain level of disability is reached, as determined by some subset of the standard cognitive impairment tests out there.


I suspect that "right to die" states will be complemented by "god-given right to own a gun" states.
 
2021-09-20 3:15:48 PM  

flondrix: olrasputin: Upon diagnosis, I would do everything in my power to relocate to a "right to die" state and try to set up a living will that culminates in assisted suicide (Sarco device or something similar) once a certain level of disability is reached, as determined by some subset of the standard cognitive impairment tests out there.

I suspect that "right to die" states will be complemented by "god-given right to own a gun" states.


Well, considering my dad's final act was eating the business end of a 0.45 in his own living room, YOU JUST MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!1!

I wouldn't wish finding and/or dealing with that mess on anyone, much less a friend or family member.

So if anyone here does at some point decide to taking a running leap off the mortal coil, don't use a farking gun.
 
2021-09-20 3:27:23 PM  
I'm 56 and discovering there's a fine line between surrealism and dementia.
 
2021-09-20 8:38:23 PM  

olrasputin: flondrix: olrasputin: Upon diagnosis, I would do everything in my power to relocate to a "right to die" state and try to set up a living will that culminates in assisted suicide (Sarco device or something similar) once a certain level of disability is reached, as determined by some subset of the standard cognitive impairment tests out there.

I suspect that "right to die" states will be complemented by "god-given right to own a gun" states.

Well, considering my dad's final act was eating the business end of a 0.45 in his own living room, YOU JUST MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!1!

I wouldn't wish finding and/or dealing with that mess on anyone, much less a friend or family member.

So if anyone here does at some point decide to taking a running leap off the mortal coil, don't use a farking gun.


I always said that if I was going to go out that way, I would go lie down in the backyard first. My grandfather shot himself in their bedroom though, and I know what that can do to a family. So that's out for me, probably a bottle of pills or some such
 
2021-09-20 8:38:52 PM  

SpaceMonkey-66: olrasputin: flondrix: olrasputin: Upon diagnosis, I would do everything in my power to relocate to a "right to die" state and try to set up a living will that culminates in assisted suicide (Sarco device or something similar) once a certain level of disability is reached, as determined by some subset of the standard cognitive impairment tests out there.

I suspect that "right to die" states will be complemented by "god-given right to own a gun" states.

Well, considering my dad's final act was eating the business end of a 0.45 in his own living room, YOU JUST MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!1!

I wouldn't wish finding and/or dealing with that mess on anyone, much less a friend or family member.

So if anyone here does at some point decide to taking a running leap off the mortal coil, don't use a farking gun.

I always said that if I was going to go out that way, I would go lie down in the backyard first. My grandfather shot himself in their bedroom though, and I know what that can do to a family. So that's out for me, probably a bottle of pills or some such


Not that I'm thinking of that right now hell no
 
2021-09-21 12:05:06 AM  

Yellow Beard: PET scans are unbelievably expensive even with platinum insurance.


Australia, their cost fir use for comprehensive scans are free. Some ineligible conditions or symptoms that would benefit but can be detected otherwise require a co-payment of about $800.
 
2021-09-21 9:13:51 AM  

englaja: Yellow Beard: PET scans are unbelievably expensive even with platinum insurance.

Australia, their cost fir use for comprehensive scans are free. Some ineligible conditions or symptoms that would benefit but can be detected otherwise require a co-payment of about $800.


Yabut SOCIALISM!
 
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