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2021-09-17 12:27:50 PM  
We've basically f*cked ourselves long-term. Just a significant number of people haven't realized it yet.

/~30% of the entire population on Medicaid and SSDI can't be good for competitiveness
 
2021-09-17 12:50:32 PM  
It's staggering we have so many people who believe "Pffft, not THAT many kids will die, and how bad could the long-term effects of a virus we know nothing about other than how lethal it is and its penchant for attacking so many of the body's key systems?" is a winning argument.
 
2021-09-17 1:52:53 PM  
And people want to whine about cities paying government employees $500 to get vaccinated.  These people are so outrageously stupid.  Prevention is always cheaper than cure.
 
2021-09-17 1:53:21 PM  
ItS nOt EvEn As BaD aS tHe fLu

-morons
 
2021-09-17 1:54:26 PM  
  Come on now. We have been repeatably assured by some of our resident Covidiots TM Fark.com that "covid is no big deal" and/or "is overblown, because there was prediction of a million dead and we haven't hit that number" and/or it is "mostly old people" who have a problem.
 
2021-09-17 1:55:00 PM  
Wait until we figure out how it's farking up kids.
 
2021-09-17 1:55:44 PM  
I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"
 
2021-09-17 1:55:55 PM  
Could be a silver lining here.

When all of these COVIDiots get dumped by the insurance, or their long-term effects are simply not covered, and they either have to pay out of pocket or do without - at some point they're going to ask for a better option.

Oh, you mean like Universal Health Care?
 
2021-09-17 1:56:00 PM  
I have a friend who had a mild case and six months later he still can't smell or taste. He can discern texture in food and that's about it.
 
2021-09-17 1:56:44 PM  

themindiswatching: We've basically f*cked ourselves long-term. Just a significant number of people haven't realized it yet.

/~30% of the entire population on Medicaid and SSDI can't be good for competitiveness


Are you kidding? Imagine what thirty percent of the population on long term medical treatment will do for the economy! Profits are gonna soar!

You can make so much money selling them treatment, they'll pay twenty times the cost unlike other countries.
 
2021-09-17 1:57:16 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's staggering we have so many people who believe "Pffft, not THAT many kids will die, and how bad could the long-term effects of a virus we know nothing about other than how lethal it is and its penchant for attacking so many of the body's key systems?" is a winning argument.


meanwhile the argument they make against the vaccine is "we don't know the long term side effects"

it's almost like they're utterly dishonest jackasses who should be deported from the planet.
 
2021-09-17 1:58:38 PM  
Them's is come crappy odds.

The sample size is too small, and I wonder what the difference is between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.

/get your shots, people.
 
2021-09-17 1:58:45 PM  
My fear is that an early non-serious covid 19 infection in a youngster will result in some terrible malady when they hit 55.  Make shingles seem like just a sub par BJ in comparison.
 
2021-09-17 1:59:23 PM  

themindiswatching: We've basically f*cked ourselves long-term. Just a significant number of people haven't realized it yet.

/~30% of the entire population on Medicaid and SSDI can't be good for competitiveness


wonder how many of them will be in red states....can we finally give them the crown of "welfare queen"?  Maybe now we can move to UBI because so many of them will have to have income assistance starting at younger age ranges.
 
2021-09-17 1:59:43 PM  

greensunshine: My fear is that an early non-serious covid 19 infection in a youngster will result in some terrible malady when they hit 55.  Make shingles seem like just a sub par BJ in comparison.


Making - not make.
 
2021-09-17 2:00:11 PM  
I had mild original covid in 02/2020 (total lack of smell, hacking non-productive cough) and I still feel like I'm recovering from fatigue, although I wasn't getting much exercise at the time either. My lungs felt damaged for several months but I've been trying some lung-expanding exercises and riding my bike. Just another notch on the belt for me while waiting for my number to be called I guess.
 
2021-09-17 2:00:18 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"


366 came be a perfectly fine sample size.

Recall that all of the 'vaccines cause autism' was based on a sample size of 4.
 
2021-09-17 2:02:40 PM  

madgonad: SuburbanCowboy: I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"

366 came be a perfectly fine sample size.

Recall that all of the 'vaccines cause autism' was based on a sample size of 4.


And how many cousin's friends of Nicki Minaj are there?
 
2021-09-17 2:02:48 PM  

greensunshine: My fear is that an early non-serious covid 19 infection in a youngster will result in some terrible malady when they hit 55.  Make shingles seem like just a sub par BJ in comparison.


Still too small of a sample size.
Of BJ's.
 
2021-09-17 2:02:48 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"


RUSSIAN BOT!!!!
 
2021-09-17 2:05:03 PM  
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2021-09-17 2:05:48 PM  

JRoo: I had mild original covid in 02/2020 (total lack of smell, hacking non-productive cough) and I still feel like I'm recovering from fatigue, although I wasn't getting much exercise at the time either. My lungs felt damaged for several months but I've been trying some lung-expanding exercises and riding my bike. Just another notch on the belt for me while waiting for my number to be called I guess.


3/2019 here. same symptoms but everything resolved except for neuropathy that is finally resolving. 

Had brain fog for 2 months. remember those months like a dream.
 
2021-09-17 2:06:54 PM  

red5ish: greensunshine: My fear is that an early non-serious covid 19 infection in a youngster will result in some terrible malady when they hit 55.  Make shingles seem like just a sub par BJ in comparison.

Still too small of a sample size.
Of BJ's.


Is there really a "sub-par" BJ?
 
2021-09-17 2:09:14 PM  

The Bunyip: Wait until we figure out how it's farking up kids.


We as a country are okay with kids getting shot up at school. Why would this be any different?

/has a sad
 
2021-09-17 2:10:17 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"


For a medical study smaller human sample sizes are often the norm.

Simply saying that the sample size is small doesn't invalidate the conclusions if the statistics otherwise line up.
 
2021-09-17 2:12:39 PM  

Por que tan serioso: red5ish: greensunshine: My fear is that an early non-serious covid 19 infection in a youngster will result in some terrible malady when they hit 55.  Make shingles seem like just a sub par BJ in comparison.

Still too small of a sample size.
Of BJ's.

Is there really a "sub-par" BJ?


Ah I see you've met my ex.
 
2021-09-17 2:13:22 PM  

themindiswatching: The Bunyip: Wait until we figure out how it's farking up kids.

We as a country are okay with kids getting shot up at school. Why would this be any different?

/has a sad


"Would you say that your child wearing a mask at school is causing more or less trauma than being told what an active shooter drill is and running them regularly for 12 years?"
 
2021-09-17 2:15:49 PM  

Skarekrough: themindiswatching: The Bunyip: Wait until we figure out how it's farking up kids.

We as a country are okay with kids getting shot up at school. Why would this be any different?

/has a sad

"Would you say that your child wearing a mask at school is causing more or less trauma than being told what an active shooter drill is and running them regularly for 12 years?"


Funny...  I live in a blue state (yay)
All the kids wear masks in school, and none of them give a shiat.  Its like wearing socks.  Its partisan adults that whine about it.  
Yes, she has active shooter drills too....    that kind of sucks but PPPPP and all....
 
2021-09-17 2:19:19 PM  
This is why I get frustrated with the idiots (some here on Fark) who will say things like "you guys keep pretending it's going to kill everyone, but it's actually a very low chance of dying".  Like that's the only thing that matters.  You've got about a 1.7.% of dying from the virus if you've shown symptoms, and that alone has killed about 650,000 people in the U.S., confirmed.  Excess deaths due to Covid are far higher, but let's just deal with the confirmed number.

But for each of those dead bodies, you have 2 - 4 other people who got heart attacks or strokes due to Covid.  Then another ~10 that end up as long haulers.  Then at least 10 with organ damage from the virus.  We're talking about tens of millions of lost years of life even if the pandemic ended tomorrow, skyrocketing medical costs, and overflowing ICUs that are causing a shrinking medical profession.

All caused by one virus.  Not even the whole family of viruses, just one with a handful of variants.

In my personal circle, I've know 11 people who got symptomatic Covid.  Two of those died, and two were long haulers (spiking daily fevers between 100 and 102 for at least 5 months after infection, with ruinous fatigue and mental function).  One of them has fairly significant organ damage (lungs & heart).  Neither of them had underlying medical issues, and they were aged 49 and 35.  Take shiat seriously, people.
 
2021-09-17 2:20:17 PM  

greensunshine: My fear is that an early non-serious covid 19 infection in a youngster will result in some terrible malady when they hit 55.  Make shingles seem like just a sub par BJ in comparison.


this year my 5 year old started kindergarten in a school district where 1 in 3 parents is a loud moron trying to compel the school to have no one in masks. The school administration favors masks but says responsible parents need to be as loud as the idiots otherwise they'll have to cater to the idiots (don't even f*cking get me started on that logic). Every school has positive covid cases and has triggered agreed upon universal mask wearing protocols, a move that is now being protested (and I think they're suing the district over masking) I cannot for the life of me  understand why these parents are so intent on getting their kids, my kids, everyone's kids  sick.

It's only been the first full 5 day week. There have been two "this cough/congestion/fatigue might be covid" scares in my house already (thankfully wasn't covid). My heart has basically lived in my throat since school started.

My son just wants to go to school and have friends, and f*ckers want to f*ck around with a virus with the potential for death and/or lifelong impairment, seemingly for no other reason than being too stupid to understand how f*cking stupid they are.

Kids vaccine can't come soon enough.
 
2021-09-17 2:20:54 PM  
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2021-09-17 2:21:25 PM  
But let's not lock down.
 
2021-09-17 2:26:36 PM  
Future is looking just so goddamn awesome I think I'm going to start doing more drugs to celebrate.
 
2021-09-17 2:31:07 PM  
It bothers me when they argue that it's just killing people with preexisting conditions. Like when the news reports that someone died of COVID they immediately chime in with "I wonder what was wrong with him".

Cancer, kidney disease, COPD, asthma, neurological conditions, diabetes, heart failure/heart disease, HIV, weakened immune system, liver disease, obesity, pregnancy, sickle cell, organ transplant recipient, substance abuse, just to name a few. I mean, that's... a lot of people. They act like it's only a small, select group of people at higher risk but I think that's probably most people. According to the CDC over 40% of Americans are obese.
 
2021-09-17 2:35:18 PM  

El Jefe Dynamo: It bothers me when they argue that it's just killing people with preexisting conditions. Like when the news reports that someone died of COVID they immediately chime in with "I wonder what was wrong with him".

Cancer, kidney disease, COPD, asthma, neurological conditions, diabetes, heart failure/heart disease, HIV, weakened immune system, liver disease, obesity, pregnancy, sickle cell, organ transplant recipient, substance abuse, just to name a few. I mean, that's... a lot of people. They act like it's only a small, select group of people at higher risk but I think that's probably most people. According to the CDC over 40% of Americans are obese.


It's also somewhat beside the point. If a person with diabetes gets mauled by a bear but makes it to the hospital for treatment, and then dies in part due to complications from having diabetes - it's still the farking bear that killed them. People live a long time with chronic illnesses if they're managing them.
 
2021-09-17 2:37:33 PM  

misanthropicsob: But let's not lock down.


You mean when some people work form home and have the lower castes continue working so Uber Eats brings food from restaurants, and restaurant employees go to work to make that food, and restaurant supply employees go to work and truck rivers bring them more supplies, and farmers keep working to bring food to market, and mechanics keep the farm machines moving and refinery employees make sure there is fuel for the farm and trucks.

Oh, and all the sanitation workers and water workers, and sewerage workers and utility workers.  I went through 10 days living off what we had in the heat for Ida but the lift pups kept moving the crap, and we had a chest freezer of food as well and 14 days of fuel for a generator.
 
2021-09-17 2:38:18 PM  

madgonad: SuburbanCowboy: I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"


366 came be a perfectly fine sample size.

Recall that all of the 'vaccines cause autism' was based on a sample size of 4.


366 is about 95% +/- 5% if you're running a survey. Still small for a medical study.
 
2021-09-17 2:43:40 PM  
I got the first COVID vaccine 5 months ago. My arm hurt for two days the first time. Wahhhh. Since then, I've had nothing but...nothing. I've had zero COVID symptoms. One time I think I got really tired one day, because I slept 4 hours the night before, and because I drink too much.

I was liberal before I took the vaccine, and I'm still liberal. I think Bill Gates is kind of an asshole, and my vaccination hasn't interfered with my cell phone reception, even though my cell phone would be 9000x more likely to be sharing my data with other people. There's no explosive device on the planet capable of being injected into the human body through a tiny needle. I haven't grown a second head. My penis is bigger. Like the 99.999999% of people who have received a vaccine, I haven't had have any lingering complications.

I feel bad for anyone who picked up COVID prior to a vaccine. I feel bad, but there's a decent chance if you got it prior to the vaccine being around, you weren't exhibiting the appropriate amount of personal protection to keep from getting infected (everyone's situation is different of course - some infections were inevitable).
 
2021-09-17 2:43:44 PM  

Gin Buddy: El Jefe Dynamo: It bothers me when they argue that it's just killing people with preexisting conditions. Like when the news reports that someone died of COVID they immediately chime in with "I wonder what was wrong with him".

Cancer, kidney disease, COPD, asthma, neurological conditions, diabetes, heart failure/heart disease, HIV, weakened immune system, liver disease, obesity, pregnancy, sickle cell, organ transplant recipient, substance abuse, just to name a few. I mean, that's... a lot of people. They act like it's only a small, select group of people at higher risk but I think that's probably most people. According to the CDC over 40% of Americans are obese.

It's also somewhat beside the point. If a person with diabetes gets mauled by a bear but makes it to the hospital for treatment, and then dies in part due to complications from having diabetes - it's still the farking bear that killed them. People live a long time with chronic illnesses if they're managing them.


As a diabetic I've often wondered how much diabetes would hurt when complicated by wounds inflicted by a bear. Probably a lot.
 
2021-09-17 2:47:09 PM  

Derek Force: Skarekrough: themindiswatching: The Bunyip: Wait until we figure out how it's farking up kids.

We as a country are okay with kids getting shot up at school. Why would this be any different?

/has a sad

"Would you say that your child wearing a mask at school is causing more or less trauma than being told what an active shooter drill is and running them regularly for 12 years?"

Funny...  I live in a blue state (yay)
All the kids wear masks in school, and none of them give a shiat.  Its like wearing socks.  Its partisan adults that whine about it.  
Yes, she has active shooter drills too....    that kind of sucks but PPPPP and all....


I see the kids getting on the bus near my house and they all have their masks on walking to and from their houses like they don't give 2 shiats. I'm pro mask and I still rip that farker off when I reach the parking lot. Kids don't seem to care.
 
2021-09-17 2:49:56 PM  

El Jefe Dynamo: Gin Buddy: El Jefe Dynamo: It bothers me when they argue that it's just killing people with preexisting conditions. Like when the news reports that someone died of COVID they immediately chime in with "I wonder what was wrong with him".

Cancer, kidney disease, COPD, asthma, neurological conditions, diabetes, heart failure/heart disease, HIV, weakened immune system, liver disease, obesity, pregnancy, sickle cell, organ transplant recipient, substance abuse, just to name a few. I mean, that's... a lot of people. They act like it's only a small, select group of people at higher risk but I think that's probably most people. According to the CDC over 40% of Americans are obese.

It's also somewhat beside the point. If a person with diabetes gets mauled by a bear but makes it to the hospital for treatment, and then dies in part due to complications from having diabetes - it's still the farking bear that killed them. People live a long time with chronic illnesses if they're managing them.

As a diabetic I've often wondered how much diabetes would hurt when complicated by wounds inflicted by a bear. Probably a lot.


I knew one of you Farkers would make me find the original...

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2021-09-17 2:51:21 PM  

themindiswatching: We've basically f*cked ourselves long-term. Just a significant number of people haven't realized it yet.

/~30% of the entire population on Medicaid and SSDI can't be good for competitiveness


Not 30% of the population, but 30% of those that get it.  But I see where you're  going...

30% of the infected that survive are long haulers, that's about 3.8% of the population (41.8M infections times 30% divided by 328M Americans), that still comes out to 12.46 million Americans.  Plus the 670K deaths, that's 13.13M Americans .

Now, how many are of the13.13 Million had a previous lifestyle can't take the loss of income?  Even if its only 1/3 of that, we're still talking 4.37 million.  4.37 million potential bankruptcies.  4.37 million potential foreclosures.

12.46M more Americans on disability, with 4.37M of those in financial ruin.

/Get the damn vaccine.
 
2021-09-17 2:56:39 PM  
JFC.

1/3 of SARS victims are still disabled, but I had hoped since covid isn't as serious as SARS we would see a lower rate of permanent injury.
 
2021-09-17 2:59:41 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: I am strongly pro-vaxx, and pro-mask, but I must point out that while the headline was alarming, this is in the very first paragraph:
"They also noted the small size of the study sample-366 people"


It's like nobody on Fark knows what a power analysis or a meta-analysis are.
 
2021-09-17 3:00:19 PM  
Hello.

if you study History, you will find out that "Long COvid" is acutally very similar to the effect of every dieae that had pandemic waves. Any pandemic dieae will have permanent effect on people and thoe effect aiwll radically alter their daily life and social intitutions, forever. Plague reconstrcuts people's bodies, and there is no alternative to that. Vaccines do not prevent that, although they mitigate, then eventually prevent, future waves. That is part of the difference between a pandemic and merely an epidemic (a moment wherein people get sick).
 
2021-09-17 3:02:22 PM  

dodecahedron: I have a friend who had a mild case and six months later he still can't smell or taste. He can discern texture in food and that's about it.


I know a guy whose friend is at 10 months no taste or smell. I only went 4 days. Lost sensation of pain, too, for which I was grateful. Supposedly they are going to try making a drug that hits that receptor. I'll take it in a heartbeat.
 
2021-09-17 3:03:16 PM  

Gin Buddy: El Jefe Dynamo: It bothers me when they argue that it's just killing people with preexisting conditions. Like when the news reports that someone died of COVID they immediately chime in with "I wonder what was wrong with him".

Cancer, kidney disease, COPD, asthma, neurological conditions, diabetes, heart failure/heart disease, HIV, weakened immune system, liver disease, obesity, pregnancy, sickle cell, organ transplant recipient, substance abuse, just to name a few. I mean, that's... a lot of people. They act like it's only a small, select group of people at higher risk but I think that's probably most people. According to the CDC over 40% of Americans are obese.

It's also somewhat beside the point. If a person with diabetes gets mauled by a bear but makes it to the hospital for treatment, and then dies in part due to complications from having diabetes - it's still the farking bear that killed them. People live a long time with chronic illnesses if they're managing them.


Then you have the possibility of people who suffer a treatable malady completely unrelated to COVID but find themselves unable to access treatment because the hospital literally has no remaining places to put patients or staff to provide treatment.
 
2021-09-17 3:03:38 PM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: misanthropicsob: But let's not lock down.

You mean when some people work form home and have the lower castes continue working so Uber Eats brings food from restaurants, and restaurant employees go to work to make that food, and restaurant supply employees go to work and truck rivers bring them more supplies, and farmers keep working to bring food to market, and mechanics keep the farm machines moving and refinery employees make sure there is fuel for the farm and trucks.

Oh, and all the sanitation workers and water workers, and sewerage workers and utility workers.  I went through 10 days living off what we had in the heat for Ida but the lift pups kept moving the crap, and we had a chest freezer of food as well and 14 days of fuel for a generator.


Even when it was "all the lower caste working to supply the upper caste with food," our rate of infection was much lower even during most spikes (excepting the hellhole of Thanksgiving and Christmas).

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Tell me again that the lockdowns didn't actually help control the spread.
 
2021-09-17 3:05:44 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: Hello.

if you study History, you will find out that "Long COvid" is acutally very similar to the effect of every dieae that had pandemic waves. Any pandemic dieae will have permanent effect on people and thoe effect aiwll radically alter their daily life and social intitutions, forever. Plague reconstrcuts people's bodies, and there is no alternative to that. Vaccines do not prevent that, although they mitigate, then eventually prevent, future waves. That is part of the difference between a pandemic and merely an epidemic (a moment wherein people get sick).


I think your keyboard has Long COVID.
 
2021-09-17 3:07:14 PM  
If you or your loved ones get long haul Covid-19 AND psychosis, you can come around here to the politics tab and grab me, I'll answer whatever questions I'm able to.

I've had 3 psychotic breaks, I might forever be mildly psychotic when not having psychotic breaks but I respond well to the right combination of meds and it's clearing up now.

I work at a volunteer mental health charity and help other psychotics and they help me.
 
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