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(Some Guy)   Congratulations, Britain. You no longer have to use a slide rule to find out how many rods to the hogshead your trusty old Hillman Minx is getting   (todayuknews.com) divider line
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2021-09-16 2:27:58 PM  
46 votes:
God, how stupid and petty.

Brexit really is the English version of Trump.
 
2021-09-16 2:19:15 PM  
29 votes:
Well, that's embarrassing.
 
2021-09-16 4:43:24 PM  
14 votes:
This is like when Reagan undid the USA's planned conversion to metric. Except 40 years in the future, when people should know better. When the internet has made global trade and collaboration stronger than ever, and long after Britain had already completed a lot of conversion to metric. So, even worse than the Reagan administration.
 
2021-09-16 4:47:58 PM  
12 votes:
Oh FFS, every year I have to teach the metric system AGAIN to my students because my parents and grandparents generations through a hissy fit when the US tried to switch over to metric...  And now another group of dumbass cavemen with a persecution complex are trying to drag even more generations down into a broken, idiotic, nonsensical system.... because 'the foreigners..."

/hates this timeline.
 
2021-09-16 3:32:04 PM  
10 votes:
What next, bringing back diseases like scurvy, rickets, scrofula, and the gout?
 
2021-09-16 4:54:52 PM  
7 votes:
A desperate attempt to deflect from some further monumental post-Brexit stuff-up...
 
2021-09-16 5:14:37 PM  
7 votes:

whither_apophis: phalamir: I assume de-decimalization will occur next year.

they're decimating the metric system


Decimalization refers to when the British moved to having 1 pound equal 100 pence, instead of the old 1 pound equals 20 shillings, each made up of 12 pence.

To quote Terry Pratchett:

"NOTE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AMERICANS: One shilling = Five Pee. It helps to understand the antique finances of the Witchfinder Army if you know the original British monetary system:

Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). Once Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea.

The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated."
 
2021-09-16 2:43:54 PM  
6 votes:
Any excuse to repost this gem:

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2021-09-16 2:46:09 PM  
6 votes:
This is especially stupid when you consider that "pound" is both a unit of weight, and the name of their currency.

Are people talking about cost or weight?
 
2021-09-16 4:40:37 PM  
6 votes:
The UK...still trying to catch up to America, one step back at a time.
 
2021-09-16 4:54:56 PM  
6 votes:

mofa: [Fark user image image 405x750]

"Beer will taste as it used to again."


I thought that, by law, beer had to still be sold in imperial pints in the UK since forever. It literally never changed. Also they had continued to use miles per hour.

In fact a couple of other things never changed including properly measurements because converting the thousand year old property deeds would have been too much trouble.
 
2021-09-16 2:30:43 PM  
5 votes:
Comedic.  But I look forward to being told about the superiority of this method.

I hope there's a chart
 
2021-09-16 3:25:27 PM  
5 votes:

enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.


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2021-09-16 3:32:47 PM  
5 votes:
It would be nice if a pint were a pint in the US.
 
2021-09-16 4:51:23 PM  
5 votes:
What a saucy little Minx may look like.

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2021-09-16 5:03:12 PM  
5 votes:

TheJoe03: I don't see why we're mad at them for allowing them to use their traditional weight system, common people there still use it. I didn't see anything about them banning the metric system or anything.


Yeah, I know we're supposed to get in some kind of religious flame war over this but I can't.

Especially because I'm in the US.

For more on this, the video spells out a lot of reasons why people don't change.

Why Doesn't the U.S. Use the Metric System?
Youtube N0U-XEmKPKg
 
2021-09-16 6:10:16 PM  
5 votes:
As an (American) engineer, I occasionally had to correct people's assumptions that nautical miles were just a fancy way of saying "miles."

// It tied them in knots.
 
2021-09-16 4:55:02 PM  
4 votes:
Idiotic pandering.

Guarantee the same folks asking for this are gonna find out their math isn't as good as they remember and are gonna biatch about how they're being overcharged, accusing grocers of marking up the prices with the conversion.
 
2021-09-16 4:56:25 PM  
4 votes:
I don't see why we're mad at them for allowing them to use their traditional weight system, common people there still use it. I didn't see anything about them banning the metric system or anything.
 
2021-09-16 5:10:38 PM  
4 votes:
Nobody should care.
If you can't figure out how to covert units in 2021, then you're too stupid to live.
 
2021-09-16 5:31:50 PM  
4 votes:
Boring fact: The US has never used Imperial units.  It used US Customary units which have the same names but different values.

I'm sure most Farkers know an Imperial pint is different from a US pint. But Imperial inches are different from US Inches too, and all the rest.

Other boring fact. The US still uses US Customary units, but they've been redefined and are now a reskin of the SI.
 
2021-09-16 5:46:01 PM  
4 votes:
*sigh, guess this is once again appropriate:

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2021-09-16 5:57:29 PM  
4 votes:

waxbeans: mofa: enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.

[Fark user image image 425x723]

Today I learned the meaning of fort night.
Anyone know what four score means?


80. A score is twenty.
 
2021-09-16 6:03:35 PM  
4 votes:

waxbeans: mofa: enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.

[Fark user image image 425x723]

Today I learned the meaning of fort night.
Anyone know what four score means?


A score is 20. Four score and seven is 87. 1863 - 87 = 1776.
 
2021-09-16 6:49:02 PM  
4 votes:
All you Farkers are looking at this the wrong way.
This means that we might see the return of Imperial gallon-sized bottles of Scotch. Those farkers are impressive huge.

/The US doesn't use the Imperial system, it uses US Customary units.
 
2021-09-16 7:38:15 PM  
4 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Hawk the Hawk: Is that why decimal time and calendar didn't take off?

Nice history lesson.  Too bad it's just a non-sequitur in this discussion.


It's also incorrect.  The decimal day thing isn't metric.  The SI unit for time is a second.... Got nothing to do with hours or days.

Actually, the 10 hr day thing may have occurred prior to SI becoming a thing.  I'd have to look that up, except I won't, because it doesn't matter either way.

I didn't say Metric time, I said decimal time.

The point was "change is good, only bad people oppose change" so I posted something where change was roundly rejected.


You posted something that has jack shiat to do with this discussion because you were getting your butt handed to you.
 
2021-09-16 2:22:07 PM  
3 votes:

FlashHarry: Well, that's embarrassing.


Next up: witch dunking.
 
2021-09-16 3:13:01 PM  
3 votes:

Ambivalence: This is especially stupid when you consider that "pound" is both a unit of weight, and the name of their currency.

Are people talking about cost or weight?


Don't even get me started on how many stone they weigh. Or throw?
 
2021-09-16 3:18:50 PM  
3 votes:
Get back to me in a fortnight.
 
2021-09-16 4:56:44 PM  
3 votes:
It's really only people over 60 who give a toss about imperial units anyway, the rest of us weren't taught it at school.

Some market stalls will switch to it, but hardly anyone shops at the market now anyway.

It's one of those things where they're pandering to their elderly base but the vast majority of people in the uk don't care and are used to metric so whatever.
 
2021-09-16 6:05:02 PM  
3 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: As has been said, no one is suggesting banning metric units, and in many areas we kept imperial anyway. Pints in pubs, miles and miles per hour on roads (though petrol and diesel is sold in litres) and most people, even young people, will still say they are six foot and twelve stone six rather than 181 cm and 80kg.

This is just giving people the choice what to use.


Because having a bunch of conflicting systems instead of a standard isn't confusing as fark.
 
2021-09-16 6:19:49 PM  
3 votes:

whidbey: Carter Pewterschmidt: As has been said, no one is suggesting banning metric units, and in many areas we kept imperial anyway. Pints in pubs, miles and miles per hour on roads (though petrol and diesel is sold in litres) and most people, even young people, will still say they are six foot and twelve stone six rather than 181 cm and 80kg.

This is just giving people the choice what to use.

Because having a bunch of conflicting systems instead of a standard isn't confusing as fark.


If you're confused by buying butter by the kilogram and milk by the pint then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to go shopping on your own? We've used both systems in many areas for decades. If someone asks me my height I say six foot. If they say "No, in cm" I say 183. It's not rocket science.

Many imperial units are just easier to visualise. That's because they evolved over centuries, millennia, based on people actually using them.

/The BBC use "Metric feet" for their studios.
 
2021-09-16 6:37:54 PM  
3 votes:

A Cave Geek: *sigh, guess this is once again appropriate:

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As fun as this is, it's fairly easy to calculate the answer in American standard units ( the ironically named BTU ) and convert to calories ( or joules ) if need be.

I won't deny the value of SI units. They are vastly superior. It's just I can fully understand why people have little incentive to change when most of their lives they'll just be using relative comparisons within the same unit of measure.

/except for those thrust upon the computer science community... fark those people who want a kilobyte to be 1000 bytes and their stupid alternative kibibytes  )
//JMP ($FFFC)
 
2021-09-16 7:20:33 PM  
3 votes:
ImpendingCynic

Don't forget the groat (4p). Not in circulation but still given out as Maundy money.

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Ah, the good ol' days of yore.
 
2021-09-16 2:45:47 PM  
2 votes:
Forgot this ironic irony:
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2021-09-16 4:49:17 PM  
2 votes:
A "proper" pint is .568 liters, meaning Brexit will give British drinkers 13% more beer. So... winning?
 
2021-09-16 5:06:24 PM  
2 votes:
"If I squeeze into these old clothes, the world will be like it was when I bought 'em!"

It's like cosplay on a truly demented level. A government that makes it more difficult for their people like this is just dumbfounding. Honestly, tinfoil hat in hand, if Putin had anything to do with putting the Tories into power, it's brilliantly destructive- like putting sugar into a gas tank.
 
2021-09-16 5:07:28 PM  
2 votes:

The Irresponsible Captain: Oh, I forgot. My old Jetta still gets around 1000 leagues to the hogshead.


Almost 48mpg.... Impressive!
 
2021-09-16 5:09:18 PM  
2 votes:

Private_Citizen: The Irresponsible Captain: Oh, I forgot. My old Jetta still gets around 1000 leagues to the hogshead.

Almost 48mpg.... Impressive!


Thanks. It's a five speed diesel.
 
2021-09-16 5:11:43 PM  
2 votes:

HoratioGates: North_Central_Positronics: Ambivalence: This is especially stupid when you consider that "pound" is both a unit of weight, and the name of their currency.

Are people talking about cost or weight?

Don't even get me started on how many stone they weigh. Or throw?

Stones actually kind of make sense, particularly for people with eating disorders.  It gives you a little more wiggle room.


Stone isn't even a standard measure.  Stone used to be used to measure bulk goods.  And each type of good had its own "stone".  So a stone of wine and a stone of barley didn't weigh anything even remotely thee same.  At some point, they picked one of these various stones and applied it to people.  But without an adjective to tell you the bulk good being references weighing 15 stone is like saying "I weigh 15 units".
 
2021-09-16 5:12:32 PM  
2 votes:

The Irresponsible Captain: TheJoe03: I don't see why we're mad at them for allowing them to use their traditional weight system, common people there still use it. I didn't see anything about them banning the metric system or anything.

Yeah, I know we're supposed to get in some kind of religious flame war over this but I can't.

Especially because I'm in the US.

For more on this, the video spells out a lot of reasons why people don't change.

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I love me some Simon narration!
 
2021-09-16 5:17:33 PM  
2 votes:
Don't forget the groat (4p). Not in circulation but still given out as Maundy money.
 
2021-09-16 5:41:19 PM  
2 votes:

The Irresponsible Captain: TheJoe03: I don't see why we're mad at them for allowing them to use their traditional weight system, common people there still use it. I didn't see anything about them banning the metric system or anything.

Yeah, I know we're supposed to get in some kind of religious flame war over this but I can't.

Especially because I'm in the US.

For more on this, the video spells out a lot of reasons why people don't change.

[YouTube video: Why Doesn't the U.S. Use the Metric System?]


I so wanted to watch I should say I still wanted to learn the information in this video but he spent way too much time not getting to the point and I stopped the video fark him
 
2021-09-16 5:49:46 PM  
2 votes:
It's been 20-25 years since the UK started using the weights in metric. Half the country has never even used pounds in their lifetime so of course why not go back now the whole country is used to it.
 
2021-09-16 6:13:54 PM  
2 votes:
I would just like to state how colossally rock farking stupid it is to have a unit like stone, based on pounds, and then you express fractions of it IN FARKING DECIMALS! So that you can't even CONVERT IT TO POUNDS IN YOUR HEAD!

/Thank you.
 
2021-09-16 6:23:12 PM  
2 votes:

SirMadness: I would just like to state how colossally rock farking stupid it is to have a unit like stone, based on pounds, and then you express fractions of it IN FARKING DECIMALS! So that you can't even CONVERT IT TO POUNDS IN YOUR HEAD!

/Thank you.


Er, we don't? We don't say "twelve point five stone".  We use Stone and then pounds. So instead of saying you weigh 175 pounds we say twelve stone seven.
 
2021-09-16 6:36:46 PM  
2 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: whidbey: Carter Pewterschmidt: As has been said, no one is suggesting banning metric units, and in many areas we kept imperial anyway. Pints in pubs, miles and miles per hour on roads (though petrol and diesel is sold in litres) and most people, even young people, will still say they are six foot and twelve stone six rather than 181 cm and 80kg.

This is just giving people the choice what to use.

Because having a bunch of conflicting systems instead of a standard isn't confusing as fark.

If you're confused by buying butter by the kilogram and milk by the pint then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to go shopping on your own? We've used both systems in many areas for decades. If someone asks me my height I say six foot. If they say "No, in cm" I say 183. It's not rocket science.


Or you could just concede we need one system so there's no need to use a calculator or online application.

Many imperial units are just easier to visualise. That's because they evolved over centuries, millennia, based on people actually using them.

And also the reason why they are by and large inaccurate and why a modern standard based on science, not tradition, needed to be applied.  Decades ago.

/The BBC use "Metric feet" for their studios.

Honestly, the only reason the entire world isn't metric is because of stubborn conservative oppostion.
 
2021-09-16 6:55:51 PM  
2 votes:

Tillmaster: That's complete crap. A stone is 14 lbs.


One particular stone is 14lbs.  But stones for different goods used to be completely different, and could range from 8lbs to 22lbs, depending upon what was being weighed.  14 was for unspun fabric materials, like wool or flax.  But most foodstuffs were 8.  I assume different guilds used different weights as a form of professional control, ie someone not in the know would use the wrong tone to try and weigh goods, thus exposing themselves.  British measurements have always went by the premise of "How much farkwittery can we pile upon more farkwittery just because someone did the thing once three hundred years ago".  That the Jews are associated with a song called "Tradition" when the English exist has to be the most extreme act of blatant misrepresentation possible.
 
2021-09-16 7:27:39 PM  
2 votes:

whidbey: whidbey: /The BBC use "Metric feet" for their studios.

Honestly, the only reason the entire world isn't metric is because of stubborn conservative oppostion.

Is that why decimal time and calendar didn't take off?

Nice history lesson.  Too bad it's just a non-sequitur in this discussion.


It's also incorrect.  The decimal day thing isn't metric.  The SI unit for time is a second.... Got nothing to do with hours or days.

Actually, the 10 hr day thing may have occurred prior to SI becoming a thing.  I'd have to look that up, except I won't, because it doesn't matter either way.
 
2021-09-16 8:21:35 PM  
2 votes:

Tillmaster: phalamir: Tillmaster: That's complete crap. A stone is 14 lbs.

One particular stone is 14lbs.  But stones for different goods used to be completely different, and could range from 8lbs to 22lbs, depending upon what was being weighed.  14 was for unspun fabric materials, like wool or flax.  But most foodstuffs were 8.  I assume different guilds used different weights as a form of professional control, ie someone not in the know would use the wrong tone to try and weigh goods, thus exposing themselves.  British measurements have always went by the premise of "How much farkwittery can we pile upon more farkwittery just because someone did the thing once three hundred years ago".  That the Jews are associated with a song called "Tradition" when the English exist has to be the most extreme act of blatant misrepresentation possible.

You, sir are a complete pillock; utterly devoid of any sense, but committed to double down whenever found to be wrong. There are several political parties that would be only too happy to welcome you to their ranks.

So which is heavier - an ounce of gold or an ounce of feathers?


Cattle were weighed using 14 pound stones but dressed beef would be measured in 8 pound stones.  An 60 stone (840 lb) cow would produce 60 stone (480 lb) of food.  There were some different stones that accounted for waste in some industries.  Railroads in the US have rail miles, bridge miles, crosstie miles.  A mile of rail fits over a mile of bridge over a mile of ties to cover a statue mile.  They all differ by a few inches but they work together.  There is a book called "Units" that goes into many of these odd details.
 
2021-09-16 8:30:10 PM  
2 votes:
It doesn't really matter at the grocery store. It usually matters when you need complete precision with something, down to a decimal--when you're buying apples, 'roughly a pound' and 'roughly a kilogram' are both just units of one that tell you how much to buy. It matters when you get into shiat like load-bearing support beams or tailoring a suit, though.
 
2021-09-16 9:59:03 PM  
2 votes:

I'm an excellent driver: If you are an American, who thinks this backward step by a bunch of inbred racist jerkoffs is amusing in any way, you should do 2 things immediately:

1. Look up the definition of the word introspection.

2. Contact the Libyan and Myanmar Embassies to confirm these world powerhouses are still in step with the US.


If you actually believe those are the only three countries where non-metric systems are widely used in day to day life (i.e. buying meat from a butcher) you're miserably mistaken. The length of your arm is a valid form of measurement in much of the non-Western world. Even today the height and weight of a goat is more important to a greater number of people on earth than structural engineering and building rockets.
 
2021-09-16 10:57:24 PM  
2 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: SirMadness: I would just like to state how colossally rock farking stupid it is to have a unit like stone, based on pounds, and then you express fractions of it IN FARKING DECIMALS! So that you can't even CONVERT IT TO POUNDS IN YOUR HEAD!

/Thank you.

Er, we don't? We don't say "twelve point five stone".  We use Stone and then pounds. So instead of saying you weigh 175 pounds we say twelve stone seven.


Things that give decimalized stone:

My Mancunian ex-husband. (True, he may be an idiot.)
My bathroom scale.
Google.
Bing.
Wolfram Alpha.
The damn scale at Boots.

So, forgive me for assuming, but...uh, yeah.
 
2021-09-17 8:51:34 AM  
2 votes:

Algebrat: waxbeans: mofa: enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.

[Fark user image image 425x723]

Today I learned the meaning of fort night.
Anyone know what four score means?

A score is 20. Four score and seven is 87. 1863 - 87 = 1776.


Username checks out?
 
2021-09-17 9:27:07 AM  
2 votes:

ISO15693: The correct answer is eight point six megameters.


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2021-09-16 4:41:14 PM  
1 vote:

Ambivalence: This is especially stupid when you consider that "pound" is both a unit of weight, and the name of their currency.

Are people talking about cost or weight?


A pound historically referred to a pound of silver.

Today an ounce of silver is selling at 16.55 GBP

/mind blown
 
2021-09-16 4:49:33 PM  
1 vote:
"Can't you see this a is a crummy joint?"

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2021-09-16 4:49:49 PM  
1 vote:
What about farktons and Rhode Islands?
 
2021-09-16 4:59:41 PM  
1 vote:
My V8 powered sedan gets 25mpg, or as I like to measure it, 504,000 rods to the hogshead.
And that's the way I like it.
 
2021-09-16 5:04:38 PM  
1 vote:
Oh, I forgot. My old Jetta still gets around 1000 leagues to the hogshead.
 
2021-09-16 5:08:56 PM  
1 vote:

phalamir: I assume de-decimalization will occur next year.


they're decimating the metric system
 
2021-09-16 5:10:46 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: God, how stupid and petty.

Brexit really is the English version of Trump.


Same people were backing it, chuckling sovitely.
 
2021-09-16 5:16:27 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: Well, that's embarrassing.


Yeah, but as an American I can't throw stones at your house.

/nearly 50 years later and it still embarasses me.
 
2021-09-16 5:26:02 PM  
1 vote:
A fortnight is fourteen-nights.
A thirtnight is thirteen-nights.
A doznight is a dozen nights. (To help distinguish it from Twelfthnight  which is a Shakespearean Play)
Elevnight is eleven nights.
No special words for 2 though 10 except  A week is seven nights - but not called a weeknight because that just means you have to get up early the next morning for work/school, or referring to a very tiny knight.
 
2021-09-16 5:42:16 PM  
1 vote:

aungen: mofa: enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.

[Fark user image 425x723]

No you morons, it's a game.  And if it takes you 2 weeks to play it, you're doing it wrong.  Talk to someone under the age of 90 and maybe they'll know what Fortnight is.


Hey it's fortnite like laser tag but online and they trick you into buying stupid shiat that doesn't even do anything like EA sports does
 
2021-09-16 5:50:28 PM  
1 vote:

waxbeans: mofa: enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.

[Fark user image image 425x723]

Today I learned the meaning of fort night.
Anyone know what four score means?


You have a sneaky sister

Connect Four - "Pretty Sneaky, Sis..." (Commercial, 1981)
Youtube KN3nohBw_CE
 
2021-09-16 5:56:42 PM  
1 vote:

Bertuccio: Boring fact: The US has never used Imperial units.  It used US Customary units which have the same names but different values.

I'm sure most Farkers know an Imperial pint is different from a US pint. But Imperial inches are different from US Inches too, and all the rest.

Other boring fact. The US still uses US Customary units, but they've been redefined and are now a reskin of the SI.


Actually that's an interesting fact because that fact is exactly what we was told back in the day why the metric system was invented because the 2 different countries used 2 different measurements for the exact same word
 
2021-09-16 6:01:32 PM  
1 vote:
As has been said, no one is suggesting banning metric units, and in many areas we kept imperial anyway. Pints in pubs, miles and miles per hour on roads (though petrol and diesel is sold in litres) and most people, even young people, will still say they are six foot and twelve stone six rather than 181 cm and 80kg.

This is just giving people the choice what to use.
 
2021-09-16 6:02:11 PM  
1 vote:
Metric is easy to learn if you can count to ten. I shall let you infer what this means about Johnson's supporters.
 
2021-09-16 6:20:16 PM  
1 vote:

waxbeans: mofa: enry: Get back to me in a fortnight.

[Fark user image image 425x723]

Today I learned the meaning of fort night.
Anyone know what four score means?


?

A score is 20.
Even if you didn't know that, you could take the dates of Abraham Lincoln's speech and the American Revolution and do the math.

Furlong, fathom, etc.  If you read anything written in the 1700s and 1800s as a kid - like Mark Twain or Jules Verne - you ran across those terms.  If you weren't curious enough to look them up, I feel sorry for you.
 
2021-09-16 6:38:49 PM  
1 vote:
If you are an American, who thinks this backward step by a bunch of inbred racist jerkoffs is amusing in any way, you should do 2 things immediately:

1. Look up the definition of the word introspection.

2. Contact the Libyan and Myanmar Embassies to confirm these world powerhouses are still in step with the US.
 
2021-09-16 6:41:47 PM  
1 vote:

phalamir: HoratioGates: North_Central_Positronics: Ambivalence: This is especially stupid when you consider that "pound" is both a unit of weight, and the name of their currency.

Are people talking about cost or weight?

Don't even get me started on how many stone they weigh. Or throw?

Stones actually kind of make sense, particularly for people with eating disorders.  It gives you a little more wiggle room.

Stone isn't even a standard measure.  Stone used to be used to measure bulk goods.  And each type of good had its own "stone".  So a stone of wine and a stone of barley didn't weigh anything even remotely thee same.  At some point, they picked one of these various stones and applied it to people.  But without an adjective to tell you the bulk good being references weighing 15 stone is like saying "I weigh 15 units".


That's complete crap. A stone is 14 lbs. There are eight of them in a hundredweight.
I was taught it at school, along with Sterling.
Oh shiat, I suppose that'll be the next step.
Welcome to arithmetic using three number bases

/ashamed to be British
//No, wait. Annoyed to be British
///Belay that. Totally furious with the cretins who allowed Brexit to happen.
 
2021-09-16 6:46:41 PM  
1 vote:
It's kind of nice having both English and metric on products. Makes it easier to share recipes etc. with my expat friends.
 
2021-09-16 7:06:19 PM  
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Carter Pewterschmidt: whidbey: Or you could just concede we need one system so there's no need to use a calculator or online application.

Why not let people choose which units to use?


Muh freedoms?  Seriously?

whidbey: And also the reason why they are by and large inaccurate and why a modern standard based on science, not tradition, needed to be applied.  Decades ago.

If you're designing a jet engine then go ahead and use metric. If you're cooking dinner it's easy to just say you want a couple of pounds of potatoes.


It's actually easier to have everything be metric.

whidbey: /The BBC use "Metric feet" for their studios.

Honestly, the only reason the entire world isn't metric is because of stubborn conservative oppostion.

Is that why decimal time and calendar didn't take off?


Nice history lesson.  Too bad it's just a non-sequitur in this discussion.
 
2021-09-16 7:33:48 PM  
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Hawk the Hawk: Holy smokes, I had to look this up on other sites, as there was no way this wasn't some sort of strange satire sight.  This doesn't pint a pretty picture.

And I see the usual suspect is here to proclaim how this is such great freedoms.  Yowsah, how lame do you have to be to stoop to the ounces = freedom level?


How do you defend banning a unit of measurement? You're the one who seems super upset that people are now allowed to use a unit they know and are happy with. You're the one arguing that this is somehow "bad".

Why is me saying "Oh cool" equal to "mah freedumbs!" but you saying this is bad and should not be allowed any better?

I'm not dancing in the street about this, and I doubt many other Brexiteers are either. It's only Remainers who seem awfully triggered. How DARE we make our own laws and let people use units they like!?
 
2021-09-16 9:04:32 PM  
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phalamir: Robo Beat: phalamir: I assume de-decimalization will occur next year.

You'll be able to buy a set of Whitworth spanners for ten bob thruppence!  What a bargain!

Yes, but how many guineas for a phaeton-whip?


Why use that when you can convert to balefeet to a hoofwidth?

Hoof width is better because it's just more tangible.  It's the width of a hoof.  You can picture it more easily than a decimeter.
 
2021-09-16 9:40:39 PM  
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Time to go back to the Whitworth standard of fasteners and spanners. British Standard Whitworth

Can Lucas electrics be far behind?
 
2021-09-16 9:48:42 PM  
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The UK having a law that you must sell meat in metric was ridiculous anyway. My wife's from an officially "metric" country, T&T, but pretty much everything to do with buying food and cooking is still done in Imperial.
 
2021-09-16 9:55:36 PM  
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My world is upside down right now.

1. UK joined European trading block (bloc?) in the 70's?
2. The US still uses the old UK measurements even though the UK doesn't (didn't, won't soon to be, maybe)
3. People were clamoring for imperial measurements?

Actually, that last one makes sense for conservatives. Everything needs to be comfortable. It's so weird they're always blabbing about toughing things out and such yet they're the first to cry oppression when they have to learn a new way to do things.
 
2021-09-17 8:39:34 AM  
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2021-09-17 8:40:29 AM  
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Meh. Even Europeans don't metric correctly.
Ask them how far it is between San Francisco and London and they'll all say something like "eight thousand six hundred kilometers"

But saying a "thousand kilometers" is not how the metric prefix system is supposed to work.

The correct answer is eight point six megameters. A thousand kilometers is a megameter. A thousand megameters is a gigameter.

But do they use those terms? No.
 
2021-09-17 3:55:15 PM  
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IHadMeAVision: Ambitwistor: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]

Decimal is extremely illogical for many computer logic applications. Given a Boolean logic expression in hexadecimal and I can bang out the result by hand pretty easy because it can be converted to and from binary in seconds. Decimal would probably take me longer to convert one way than the whole problem in hex.

Ten is not more "logical" than 16 or 12 that have more factors, unless you still haven't advanced in thinking about math beyond your own fingers and toes.


It's not about 10 vs. 12, it's about 10 vs. random mishmash. And convenience in binary representation isn't really relevant for most people.
 
2021-09-17 3:55:45 PM  
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IHadMeAVision: Ambitwistor: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]

Decimal is extremely illogical for many computer logic applications. Given a Boolean logic expression in hexadecimal and I can bang out the result by hand pretty easy because it can be converted to and from binary in seconds. Decimal would probably take me longer to convert one way than the whole problem in hex.

Ten is not more "logical" than 16 or 12 that have more factors, unless you still haven't advanced in thinking about math beyond your own fingers and toes.


Cool flex, bruh
 
2021-09-17 8:29:26 PM  
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Ambitwistor: IHadMeAVision: Ambitwistor: [i.pinimg.com image 850x850]

Decimal is extremely illogical for many computer logic applications. Given a Boolean logic expression in hexadecimal and I can bang out the result by hand pretty easy because it can be converted to and from binary in seconds. Decimal would probably take me longer to convert one way than the whole problem in hex.

Ten is not more "logical" than 16 or 12 that have more factors, unless you still haven't advanced in thinking about math beyond your own fingers and toes.

It's not about 10 vs. 12, it's about 10 vs. random mishmash. And convenience in binary representation isn't really relevant for most people.


Akshually, 12, 60, and 144 all have ancient finger counting methods. Probably 16 also, but I don't remember it off-hand.

Basically all the bases that used be be common were finger counting methods.  We just ended up sticking to the least useful one :*(

People gripe how silly Imperial seems, but that's because they're representing it in base 10. People weren't marking or thinking about these units that way when they were using the systems, though. They were usually using a highly composite number, and there was a unit for each factor.  This is how times and compass degrees work, and people don't mind those systems.
 
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