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2021-09-16 2:27:51 PM  
What kind of monster would run a company like this?

Epik CEO Robert Monster sent an email on Wednesday to customers acknowledging "an alleged security incident" but did not provide specifics.

Wait...
 
2021-09-16 2:33:20 PM  
I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.
 
2021-09-16 2:55:05 PM  

dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.


Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.
 
2021-09-16 3:05:51 PM  

dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.


Socks and underwear in a bike box.
 
2021-09-16 3:11:34 PM  
"entire primary database," which contains hosting account usernames and passwords, SSH keys, and even some credit card numbers-all stored in plaintext.

Wow what security.
 
2021-09-16 3:12:07 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Socks and underwear in a bike box.


a picture of an underage bike wearing socks and underwear would probably be crossing the line I would think.
 
2021-09-16 3:13:50 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Socks and underwear in a bike box.


Or a new car...
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2021-09-16 3:14:16 PM  

dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.


Sadly in the US nothing will change.  Whether it was Panama papers or the leaks of tax returns that showed that the ultra rich paid next to nothing the GOP and the current White House will both be more focused on the hackers than the information they actually uncovered.

Keep in mind that the whistleblower who was responsible for providing proof of just how dismal the results of the US drone program actually was is in prison.... Snowden was right in regards to what happens to those in the US who release information the government doesn't want to have releases (and, unfortunately the consequences).
 
2021-09-16 3:14:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.


Not exactly stringing it out since it's been released. You can download it right now.
 
2021-09-16 3:17:00 PM  
The Daily Dot attempted to reach Monster for comment, whose phone number and Skype username were listed in emails from the breach, but did not receive a response.

/snark
 
2021-09-16 3:19:53 PM  
This looks like an online walkthrough for a PS2 game.

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2021-09-16 3:20:56 PM  
Politics in my STEM? More likely than you think
 
2021-09-16 3:22:28 PM  
I swear, either it's a simulpost in both tabs, or it was in STEM first.
 
2021-09-16 3:26:41 PM  
"You are in our prayers today. We are grateful for your support and prayer. When situations arise where individuals might not have honorable intentions, I pray for them," Monster added. "I believe that what the enemy intends for evil, God invariably transforms into good."

Irony, thy name is...
 
2021-09-16 3:27:24 PM  
In a statement to Gizmodo on Tuesday, an Epik spokesperson claimed that the company was "not aware of any breach."

Epik CEO Robert Monster sent an email on Wednesday to customers acknowledging "an alleged security incident" but did not provide specifics.


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2021-09-16 3:29:00 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.


Hey Mods, no more Greenlights until it is about the information being released.
 
2021-09-16 3:29:49 PM  

A Cave Geek: "You are in our prayers today. We are grateful for your support and prayer. When situations arise where individuals might not have honorable intentions, I pray for them," Monster added. "I believe that what the enemy intends for evil, God invariably transforms into good."

Irony, thy name is...


I actually got this email.  Turns out that a very old domain that a former business partner of mine was registered using Epix, presumably back before they started hosting neo-Nazis.

The God part really made me laugh.
 
2021-09-16 3:30:32 PM  
I feel like waiting for the opening of Al Capone's vault.
I think we're going to see the same ending also.
 
2021-09-16 3:30:32 PM  
I have heard nothing interesting from this and I doubt anything is going to happen with it.
 
2021-09-16 3:30:41 PM  
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They be strutting while others are hating.
 
2021-09-16 3:31:08 PM  
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2021-09-16 3:31:40 PM  

OhioUGrad: Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.

Hey Mods, no more Greenlights until it is about the information being released.


It was released days ago.  You can go download pretty much their whole filesystem right now.
 
2021-09-16 3:31:58 PM  
Are we going to do the thing where we select a few random words and decide they're code for pedophilia? 'Cause that would be neat.
 
2021-09-16 3:31:58 PM  

bughunter: In a statement to Gizmodo on Tuesday, an Epik spokesperson claimed that the company was "not aware of any breach."

Epik CEO Robert Monster sent an email on Wednesday to customers acknowledging "an alleged security incident" but did not provide specifics.

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2021-09-16 3:32:41 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.


Two things about anonymous.
1. They have a long track record of blowing how big a thing is out of proportion.

2. There are two anonymous'.
A. The 4 Channing idiots.
B. The occasional small group of actual old school Leet hackers who can do things.

All their DDOS attacks were primarily done by two people with tens of thousands of not computers under their control.
Then there was the whole HG Gary lulz group hack that was like 6 dudes.

This looks to be the work of group B.  They might.
 
2021-09-16 3:34:46 PM  
"Analysis suggests that hacked data goes up until Feb. 28, 2021."

This hack should, hopefully, be of interest to the FBI and IC.
 
2021-09-16 3:36:52 PM  
The Daily Dot spoke with an individual listed as the registrar for TheDonald, an offshoot of a pro-Trump forum banned from Reddit last year, that operates from the domain Patriots.win. The individual confirmed that the information listed in the breach was his but claimed that he had distanced himself from the site.

I think we're going to be hearing a lot of that
 
2021-09-16 3:42:15 PM  
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2021-09-16 3:42:48 PM  
"We are taking proactive steps to resolve the issue. We will update you on our progress."

Apparently doesn't know what "proactively" means. Something, something, barn door.
 
2021-09-16 3:44:02 PM  

Ed Grubermann: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Socks and underwear in a bike box.

Or a new car...
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Wait. Is Yoda wearing an ill-fitting yarmulke?

/Funny, he doesn't look Druish.
 
2021-09-16 3:49:37 PM  
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2021-09-16 4:00:12 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.


Apparently they have gigabytes of data. However, as someone who works with data security, I know how dry and uninformative bulk, unspecified data really is. I'm not even cautiosly optimistic, I'm just ambivalent here.
 
2021-09-16 4:07:17 PM  

A Cave Geek: "You are in our prayers today. We are grateful for your support and prayer. When situations arise where individuals might not have honorable intentions, I pray for them," Monster added. "I believe that what the enemy intends for evil, God invariably transforms into good."

Irony, thy name is...


Apparently "God is my firewall" doesn't work any better than "the Lord will protect me from COVID".

/ Jesus building your hotrod still ok
 
2021-09-16 4:09:17 PM  

Greil: Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.

Apparently they have gigabytes of data. However, as someone who works with data security, I know how dry and uninformative bulk, unspecified data really is. I'm not even cautiosly optimistic, I'm just ambivalent here.


And what explosive material could there even be, anyway?

They seem to hint that it's gong to be about who has ties to whom, business connections, what people / organizations are funding what sites, and so on, but is any of that going to be SURPRISING? We KNOW these folks are all in bed together.

At best I suppose it could undercover some campaign finance violations, but we know damn well they don't mean shiat because everyone just shrugs them off.

So I'm unclear on what big revelations I'm supposed to be waiting for.
 
2021-09-16 4:10:48 PM  

RasIanI: "Analysis suggests that hacked data goes up until Feb. 28, 2021."

This hack should, hopefully, be of interest to the FBI and IC.


Might have serious chain of custody issues. If I were Epik I'd be destrying every archive server I had right now to claim the data is fabricated. If the data actually is what anonymous is claiming it to be, the destruction charges will be much more preferable. And even though the court of public opinion will hurt for a bit, Epik is insulated from that, it's just infrastucture. When have you ever cared about who actually hosts your content? Would you give up, say, Fark if it turned out Epik hosted it?
 
2021-09-16 4:15:21 PM  
I think what might be useful are the names of the admins, owners, and originators. If you can tie some consistency behind a myriad of propaganda and hate sites with operatives from perhaps more mainstream or political avenues, that could establish some direction and motive, if not criminality foisted on us from groups like Newsmax or people like the Mercers.

The hardest and loneliest work is to scour the data and establish patterns and directories.
 
2021-09-16 4:16:58 PM  
In the end of this, we'll probably see some highly embarrassed right-wing farkers, quite a lot of firings, and the end of more than a few careers, maybe even a few investigations for threats and hate speech, and a WHOLE BUNCH of right-wing whining and crying about their 'raaaiits'...but probably not much more than that.

Now, do the same to the RNC...or ALEC and THEN we'll see a shiatstorm...
 
2021-09-16 4:18:54 PM  
Yeah, it's been released. 

It's also 180GB, mostly .sql
 
2021-09-16 4:19:25 PM  

Psychopusher: Ed Grubermann: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Socks and underwear in a bike box.

Or a new car...
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Wait. Is Yoda wearing an ill-fitting yarmulke?

/Funny, he doesn't look Druish.


May the Schwartz be with you.
 
2021-09-16 4:20:38 PM  
Also, lol at all the 'I haven't been paying attention to this at all, so obviously it's meaningless' chumps, in here.
 
2021-09-16 4:24:03 PM  

shoegaze99: Greil: Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.

Apparently they have gigabytes of data. However, as someone who works with data security, I know how dry and uninformative bulk, unspecified data really is. I'm not even cautiosly optimistic, I'm just ambivalent here.

And what explosive material could there even be, anyway?

They seem to hint that it's gong to be about who has ties to whom, business connections, what people / organizations are funding what sites, and so on, but is any of that going to be SURPRISING? We KNOW these folks are all in bed together.

At best I suppose it could undercover some campaign finance violations, but we know damn well they don't mean shiat because everyone just shrugs them off.

So I'm unclear on what big revelations I'm supposed to be waiting for.


Supposedly, reading their PR they're saying they have the proof of what what right leaning money people, ordered and produced the right wing online propaganda and websites, and imply there's some Russians mixed in as well.
 
2021-09-16 4:24:13 PM  

LrdPhoenix: OhioUGrad: Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.

Hey Mods, no more Greenlights until it is about the information being released.

It was released days ago.  You can go download pretty much their whole filesystem right now.


Oh, guess I missed that greenlight! I'm sure it's nothing or it would have been more talked about.
 
2021-09-16 4:27:27 PM  

OhioUGrad: LrdPhoenix: OhioUGrad: Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.

Hey Mods, no more Greenlights until it is about the information being released.

It was released days ago.  You can go download pretty much their whole filesystem right now.

Oh, guess I missed that greenlight! I'm sure it's nothing or it would have been more talked about.


It's a whole lot of data. May be a bit before anything interesting comes out of it.
 
2021-09-16 4:32:43 PM  

Public Call Box: Supposedly, reading their PR they're saying they have the proof of what what right leaning money people, ordered and produced the right wing online propaganda and websites, and imply there's some Russians mixed in as well.


So it sounds like it would be further confirmation of what we already know and which the right wing has long since shrugged off as no big deal and/or a "mainstream media hoax."

With the Russia stuff in particular, at this juncture no amount of proof would matter. They've already decided it's both a lie and that it's no big deal.

JohnnyApocalypse: I think what might be useful are the names of the admins, owners, and originators. If you can tie some consistency behind a myriad of propaganda and hate sites with operatives from perhaps more mainstream or political avenues, that could establish some direction and motive, if not criminality foisted on us from groups like Newsmax or people like the Mercers.


If this is the case, it would paint a compelling picture about who is funding these misinformation campaigns.

Unfortunately, it's also the sort of complex story the general public often has difficulty digesting. We're great at getting outraged about cum stains on dresses, because that takes no thinking to understanding, but outlining these webs of connections, it's tough to get traction on that.

I'd like to see something important come out of this, but like others in the thread, I'm not holding my breath. I've lost what little faith I had in our people and our institutions' ability and willingness to hold power accountable.
 
2021-09-16 4:34:17 PM  
shoegaze99:

With the Russia stuff in particular, at this juncture no amount of proof would matter. They've already decided it's both a lie and that it's no big deal.

At this point, I want to look at it for myself, just so I can know how this thing fits together.
 
2021-09-16 4:40:26 PM  

Greil: Might have serious chain of custody issues.


For actual legal action, yes.

One this is a searchable database for anyone doing due diligence, this becomes more interesting if, in a few years, people look back with horror and try and distance themselves.
 
2021-09-16 4:40:29 PM  

OhioUGrad: Hey Mods, no more Greenlights until it is about the information being released.


I linked to where you can download it in the first thread on this, and was posting screenshots and info from it in the second thread...

For everyone saying nothing will come of this, give it a bit of time. Seriously. It's a lot of data to sift through...

I'm just an infosec nobody with a bit of an OSINT hobby, and I'm finding things that look like they could turn into stories. Actual journalists have their hands on the data and are finding promising leads as we speak. That's fact, not conjecture. Maybe none of them will pan out, but I would be very surprised if that were the case.
 
2021-09-16 4:41:31 PM  

AStonerApart: shoegaze99:

With the Russia stuff in particular, at this juncture no amount of proof would matter. They've already decided it's both a lie and that it's no big deal.

At this point, I want to look at it for myself, just so I can know how this thing fits together.


I'm still inordinately interested in that whole Alfa Bank and TFG's organization dealt. Why was that bank linking to TFG's server on a daily basis?
 
2021-09-16 4:43:33 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Socks and underwear in a bike box.


Is that like the time I got my dad a Superman comic for xmas?
 
2021-09-16 4:52:34 PM  

OhioUGrad: LrdPhoenix: OhioUGrad: Benevolent Misanthrope: dildo tontine: I am trying to not get too excited about this.  I don't want to be like the kid who was hoping for a bike for Christmas but instead got socks and underwear.

Yeah, same here.  Anonymous is stringing this out, saying, "It's gonna be AMAZEBALLS!" and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.  I'm even less inclined to believe there will be consequences.  For anyone.  But we'll see.

Hey Mods, no more Greenlights until it is about the information being released.

It was released days ago.  You can go download pretty much their whole filesystem right now.

Oh, guess I missed that greenlight! I'm sure it's nothing or it would have been more talked about.


It's 180 gigs of mostly text and databases, if I understand correctly. That is a lotof information.
 
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