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(Guardian)   While Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic just barely scrape the edge of space, Space X sends its first chartered flight to an orbit 100 miles higher than the ISS   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-09-16 1:34:37 PM  
Well, if you are going to pee all over the other guy's Wheaties, use a fire hose to completely establish dominance.

Why, yes, I am a guy, how could you tell.
 
2021-09-16 1:41:10 PM  
Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest
 
2021-09-16 1:59:35 PM  

no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest


Like, a children's hospital, or something?
 
2021-09-16 2:09:39 PM  
I was going to say that Blue Origin will reach orbit when there are flying cars.


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So much for that theory.
 
2021-09-16 2:15:19 PM  
The dream of man and flightless bird alike.
 
2021-09-16 2:16:18 PM  

no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest


a shame, we could have used it to extend the Afghan War a full 13 or 14 hours or maybe pay 10% of the budget of a new Super Hero movie.
 
2021-09-16 2:18:50 PM  

no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest


Imagining...

Now what?
 
2021-09-16 2:19:17 PM  
I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.
 
2021-09-16 2:21:49 PM  

Destructor: no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest

Imagining...

Now what?


Fapping, after what I just imagined.
 
2021-09-16 2:23:21 PM  
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2021-09-16 2:23:30 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest

Yeah, like St Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Oh, wait...


It should have been more like Make-A-Wish or whatever where they go door-to-door getting people to pledge so much per orbit.
 
2021-09-16 2:27:30 PM  
Not only is it 100miles higher than the ISS its 100km higher than Soyuz is rated for. and being that Starliner and Orion are still not operational Dragon is the most capable spacecraft in service currently.
 
2021-09-16 2:28:39 PM  

Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.


No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.
 
2021-09-16 2:28:43 PM  

no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest


Leaving aside the already-mentioned fact that St. Jude's getting the money from this, the simple fact of the matter is that someone was going to have to do it sooner or later, and for all of his faults, I would rather it be Elon Musk than some Bubba T. Dumbf*ck trying to con people out of their cash so he can pay off his own born-from-stupidity debts.
 
2021-09-16 2:34:52 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.


There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...
 
2021-09-16 2:37:07 PM  

Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...


I'm happy to traumatize two other people if they can't plug their ears and close their eyes for a few minutes.  Though who knows if zero g improves or degrades performance.  Could be pushing rope and incapable of orgasm for all I know.  Might take the whole trip to get the job done.
 
2021-09-16 2:41:56 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...

I'm happy to traumatize two other people if they can't plug their ears and close their eyes for a few minutes.  Though who knows if zero g improves or degrades performance.  Could be pushing rope and incapable of orgasm for all I know.  Might take the whole trip to get the job done.


Might as well invite them along as well. When's the next chance you'd have for a zero-g orgy?
 
2021-09-16 2:42:22 PM  

Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...


This is why it's so critical to get Starship operational and certified - individual staterooms!
 
2021-09-16 2:44:31 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...

I'm happy to traumatize two other people if they can't plug their ears and close their eyes for a few minutes.  Though who knows if zero g improves or degrades performance.  Could be pushing rope and incapable of orgasm for all I know.  Might take the whole trip to get the job done.


here's the thing. As a space tourist there are literally no downsides to boning in space. It's not like they are going to make an emergency stop like a regular plane. there's no laws saying you cant. and its not likely you are going to take a second trip anyways. Unlike professional astronauts your job isn't at stake. and they probably won't throw you out the airlock.

the upsides: you got laid and you'll be a farking legend.
 
2021-09-16 2:45:00 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...

I'm happy to traumatize two other people if they can't plug their ears and close their eyes for a few minutes.  Though who knows if zero g improves or degrades performance.  Could be pushing rope and incapable of orgasm for all I know.  Might take the whole trip to get the job done.


And not to mention the lingering smell of after sex, it's not like you can crack a window to air the place out after all. Let alone any fluids floating about.

/I fear I have thought about this too much.
 
2021-09-16 2:45:55 PM  
We don't need more Bozos like Bezos

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2021-09-16 2:46:43 PM  

Arsayalalyur: Might as well invite them along as well. When's the next chance you'd have for a zero-g orgy?


Well, we just found the new worst job in the world. Jizz mopper for the Dragon X. You know that splooge would be everywhere in that farker.
 
2021-09-16 2:48:26 PM  

Yellow Beard: Arsayalalyur: Might as well invite them along as well. When's the next chance you'd have for a zero-g orgy?

Well, we just found the new worst job in the world. Jizz mopper for the Dragon X. You know that splooge would be everywhere in that farker.


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2021-09-16 2:48:29 PM  

Arsayalalyur: Might as well invite them along as well. When's the next chance you'd have for a zero-g orgy?


In principle I agree, but in practice it depends on their sex, attractiveness, and interest.  And also on how many potential improvised weapons are around that my wife might hit me with.
 
2021-09-16 2:55:54 PM  

no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest


Like the salaries of all the people it takes to build and operate something like that?

You're a crab, aren't you?  Pulling down those trying to escape the trap.
 
2021-09-16 2:56:59 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: And not to mention the lingering smell of after sex, it's not like you can crack a window to air the place out after all. Let alone any fluids floating about.

/I fear I have thought about this too much.


Four people in a sealed tin can for days.  The smell of sex would be downright pleasant compared to the smell of ass and the lingering odour from the head (the toilet, not the sex act).  You think everyone's going to hold their farts in until they've returned to Earth?
 
2021-09-16 2:57:32 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: This is why it's so critical to get Starship operational and certified - individual staterooms!


Correct me if I'm wrong, but It would also give us the lift capability to build an actual Rotating Wheel Space Station.

Starship could be the game changing game changer of game changing.

Because this....

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...is the gateway to that...

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2021-09-16 2:58:57 PM  

Yellow Beard: Arsayalalyur: Might as well invite them along as well. When's the next chance you'd have for a zero-g orgy?

Well, we just found the new worst job in the world. Jizz mopper for the Dragon X. You know that splooge would be everywhere in that farker.


Ahem.
Worse job in the solar system, not the world.
 
2021-09-16 3:00:32 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Representative of the unwashed masses: And not to mention the lingering smell of after sex, it's not like you can crack a window to air the place out after all. Let alone any fluids floating about.

/I fear I have thought about this too much.

Four people in a sealed tin can for days.  The smell of sex would be downright pleasant compared to the smell of ass and the lingering odour from the head (the toilet, not the sex act).  You think everyone's going to hold their farts in until they've returned to Earth?


Plus doesn't zero G make you a little more gassy than normal? Although I'm sure the food is designed specifically to case less gas.
 
2021-09-16 3:02:04 PM  

Destructor: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: This is why it's so critical to get Starship operational and certified - individual staterooms!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but It would also give us the lift capability to build an actual Rotating Wheel Space Station.

Starship could be the game changing game changer of game changing.

Because this....

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...is the gateway to that...

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No.  First, that's a LOT of mass, but second, the issue isn't mass but mass placement and movement.  We don't have the tech to build a rotating structure without a lot of potentially catastrophic issues with shifting mass within it.  Strap in, you're fine.  Walk around, you're causing a shift in the center of mass and sending ripples of stress throughout the station.  Not to mention the issues with docking.

I'd still like to see an O'Neil cylinder built in lunar orbit out of primarily lunar material, though.   That might be enough mass that pretty much anything mere people did on the inside would be insignificant.
 
2021-09-16 3:05:07 PM  

Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...


... go on.
 
2021-09-16 3:07:11 PM  

Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.


Two married astronauts flew together on STS-47.  NASA no longer allows married astronauts to fly together.

You do the math.
 
2021-09-16 3:08:35 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Destructor: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: This is why it's so critical to get Starship operational and certified - individual staterooms!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but It would also give us the lift capability to build an actual Rotating Wheel Space Station.

Starship could be the game changing game changer of game changing.

Because this....

[upload.wikimedia.org image 461x321]

...is the gateway to that...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 463x364]

No.  First, that's a LOT of mass, but second, the issue isn't mass but mass placement and movement.  We don't have the tech to build a rotating structure without a lot of potentially catastrophic issues with shifting mass within it.  Strap in, you're fine.  Walk around, you're causing a shift in the center of mass and sending ripples of stress throughout the station.  Not to mention the issues with docking.

I'd still like to see an O'Neil cylinder built in lunar orbit out of primarily lunar material, though.   That might be enough mass that pretty much anything mere people did on the inside would be insignificant.


Yup.  The trick is to make the f*cker BIG!

And the key to that is to develop materials from Luna and the Belt, rather than carrying it up the well.

China's 'megaship' proposal seems like a particularly laughable proposal, unless they're planning to do a lot of mining up there.
 
2021-09-16 3:09:38 PM  

Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.


Might as well

After all
The tax payer got fuked
 
2021-09-16 3:10:38 PM  

Fisty Bum: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

Two married astronauts flew together on STS-47.  NASA no longer allows married astronauts to fly together.

You do the math.


NASA is staffed by administrators related to the Network Executives that refused to let Gene Roddenberry to make the Enterprise 50% female "because, don't you see, that will make it look like there's a lot of fooling around going on up there!"
 
2021-09-16 3:13:05 PM  

Unsung_Hero: I'd still like to see an O'Neil cylinder built in lunar orbit out of primarily lunar material, though.   That might be enough mass that pretty much anything mere people did on the inside would be insignificant.


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That's O'Neill... with two L's!
 
2021-09-16 3:13:37 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Unsung_Hero: Representative of the unwashed masses: And not to mention the lingering smell of after sex, it's not like you can crack a window to air the place out after all. Let alone any fluids floating about.

/I fear I have thought about this too much.

Four people in a sealed tin can for days.  The smell of sex would be downright pleasant compared to the smell of ass and the lingering odour from the head (the toilet, not the sex act).  You think everyone's going to hold their farts in until they've returned to Earth?

Plus doesn't zero G make you a little more gassy than normal? Although I'm sure the food is designed specifically to case less gas.


A fart will push u out of orbit
 
2021-09-16 3:13:38 PM  

Unsung_Hero: No. First, that's a LOT of mass, but second, the issue isn't mass but mass placement and movement. We don't have the tech to build a rotating structure without a lot of potentially catastrophic issues with shifting mass within it. Strap in, you're fine. Walk around, you're causing a shift in the center of mass and sending ripples of stress throughout the station. Not to mention the issues with docking.


If it was easy, we'd already have 'em.

You can start out small, with one living habitat connected by a tether to either dead mass, or some sort of unmanned engineering section. You could even rig it up so that if something went wrong, you blow the tether and re-enter on the habitat. We've gotta start somewhere. But the point is, you can launch all the modules of a real ring up there, and once its assembled, set it to spin. And it doesn't have to be a full 1g. 0.1g or 0.2g would be fine at first. We know so little about the long term effects of low g environments. In fact, we know so little.

The mass redistribution is a big, non-trivial problem. Probably handle it by moving clean water and greywater around. It is, however, something that can and must be solved. We need this for the future of mankind in space. Seems computationally simple for the math nerds.

Personally, I think space is where we need to be as a species. Save the planet as a nature preserve; but build a paradise in space for us.  And no, I'm not saying force people off the planet. But make the habitats so attractive, everyone would rather be there, and visit Earth on the holidays to see all the cool natural animals and stuff.
 
2021-09-16 3:14:21 PM  

Fisty Bum: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

Two married astronauts flew together on STS-47.  NASA no longer allows married astronauts to fly together.

You do the math.


Thar is some expensive fukin
 
2021-09-16 3:21:22 PM  

Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

....

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...


Charlie's Grandparents - SNL
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2021-09-16 3:24:36 PM  

Destructor: Unsung_Hero: No. First, that's a LOT of mass, but second, the issue isn't mass but mass placement and movement. We don't have the tech to build a rotating structure without a lot of potentially catastrophic issues with shifting mass within it. Strap in, you're fine. Walk around, you're causing a shift in the center of mass and sending ripples of stress throughout the station. Not to mention the issues with docking.


If it was easy, we'd already have 'em.

You can start out small, with one living habitat connected by a tether to either dead mass, or some sort of unmanned engineering section. You could even rig it up so that if something went wrong, you blow the tether and re-enter on the habitat. We've gotta start somewhere. But the point is, you can launch all the modules of a real ring up there, and once its assembled, set it to spin. And it doesn't have to be a full 1g. 0.1g or 0.2g would be fine at first. We know so little about the long term effects of low g environments. In fact, we know so little.


There is also the option to use the 1963 inflatable hex station concept and get your whipple on for protection.  It feeds in nicely with orbital cleanup if the shielding comes from expended stages still floating around.
 
2021-09-16 3:39:16 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: no1curr: Imagine what that money could have gone to instead of a dick measuring contest

Yeah, like St Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Oh, wait...


a) They should have given ALL the money to the research hospital!

b) St. Jude? Is that like invisible sky wizard with pedophile priests?

/covered both
 
2021-09-16 3:39:20 PM  
I wonder how much mass we would have in orbit if the shuttles, orbiters, and modules being sent up didn't return to the surface? Just leave the vessels in orbit and space the squishy humans when they have used up their food. Sure, it would mean that every astronaut would be on a one-way trip, but it would also mean that we could have a huge karbled-together space station in LEO right now.
 
2021-09-16 3:42:20 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Fisty Bum: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

Two married astronauts flew together on STS-47.  NASA no longer allows married astronauts to fly together.

You do the math.

NASA is staffed by administrators related to the Network Executives that refused to let Gene Roddenberry to make the Enterprise 50% female "because, don't you see, that will make it look like there's a lot of fooling around going on up there!"


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Decades later....
 
2021-09-16 3:43:41 PM  

Destructor: Unsung_Hero: No. First, that's a LOT of mass, but second, the issue isn't mass but mass placement and movement. We don't have the tech to build a rotating structure without a lot of potentially catastrophic issues with shifting mass within it. Strap in, you're fine. Walk around, you're causing a shift in the center of mass and sending ripples of stress throughout the station. Not to mention the issues with docking.

If it was easy, we'd already have 'em.

You can start out small, with one living habitat connected by a tether to either dead mass, or some sort of unmanned engineering section. You could even rig it up so that if something went wrong, you blow the tether and re-enter on the habitat. We've gotta start somewhere. But the point is, you can launch all the modules of a real ring up there, and once its assembled, set it to spin. And it doesn't have to be a full 1g. 0.1g or 0.2g would be fine at first. We know so little about the long term effects of low g environments. In fact, we know so little.

The mass redistribution is a big, non-trivial problem. Probably handle it by moving clean water and greywater around. It is, however, something that can and must be solved. We need this for the future of mankind in space. Seems computationally simple for the math nerds.

Personally, I think space is where we need to be as a species. Save the planet as a nature preserve; but build a paradise in space for us.  And no, I'm not saying force people off the planet. But make the habitats so attractive, everyone would rather be there, and visit Earth on the holidays to see all the cool natural animals and stuff.


Well thought out, and well spoken.

Kudos, sir.
 
2021-09-16 3:47:28 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Fisty Bum: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

Two married astronauts flew together on STS-47.  NASA no longer allows married astronauts to fly together.

You do the math.

NASA is staffed by administrators related to the Network Executives that refused to let Gene Roddenberry to make the Enterprise 50% female "because, don't you see, that will make it look like there's a lot of fooling around going on up there!"

[trekmovie.com image 640x360]

Decades later....


Does not go well for their firstborn.
 
2021-09-16 3:57:03 PM  

Gubbo: Unsung_Hero: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

No matter how inconvenient the freefall made it (including nausea and back pain and post-coital cleanup), if my wife and I were in orbit for three days damn right we'd have sex.  Because you're in space.  How many people can say they joined the 100-mile-high club?

No video though.  We are not hot young people, and I don't want to encourage the kind of people who would subscribe to our OnlyFans site if we had one.

There's 4 people, and it's still a one room spaceship...


Someone has to hold the camera.
 
2021-09-16 3:58:54 PM  

Myrdinn: OtherLittleGuy: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Fisty Bum: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

Two married astronauts flew together on STS-47.  NASA no longer allows married astronauts to fly together.

You do the math.

NASA is staffed by administrators related to the Network Executives that refused to let Gene Roddenberry to make the Enterprise 50% female "because, don't you see, that will make it look like there's a lot of fooling around going on up there!"

[trekmovie.com image 640x360]

Decades later....

Does not go well for their firstborn.


Fark cancer mendaxic neurosclerosis.
 
2021-09-16 3:59:43 PM  

Linux_Yes: Yellow Beard: I wonder if they will succumb to the temptation to have sex in space.

Might as well

After all
The tax payer got fuked


In what possible way?

This flight was entirely paid for by private funds
The capsule was developed on a fixed price contract and actually works, unlike the twice as expensive Boeing version
The rocket was developed on a fixed price contract for *vastly* lower prices than existing launchers.  At this point NASA/DOD have saved the taxpayer literally billions of dollars by using SpaceX launch services rather than ULA

This is one of the few cases when the government got more than it paid for from a contract
 
2021-09-16 4:11:17 PM  

Destructor: Personally, I think space is where we need to be as a species. Save the planet as a nature preserve; but build a paradise in space for us.  And no, I'm not saying force people off the planet. But make the habitats so attractive, everyone would rather be there, and visit Earth on the holidays to see all the cool natural animals and stuff.


We ain't getting out of this gravity well, at least not as any type of population.

The cost to just get a squishy human and supplies for a week into LEO is a half million dollars. That's just for the squishy parts. A whole lot more has to go up if you want to live there. Billionaires and governments can do experimental or dick-waiving missions in space, but as a species we aren't leaving this rock. Heck, we can't even do something far far far far cheaper and easier like living underwater. A whole different technology will be required to move off-world. Even something like a Space Elevator won't have enough capacity. Might as well get comfortable here and try not to trash the place.
 
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