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2021-09-16 3:44:10 PM  
Volume 16. Wow. I still have the original 1-3 box set from back in the day. I wish more artists would clear their vaults like Dylan does.
 
2021-09-16 4:06:41 PM  
They're not fooling anyone. That's Adam Sandler.

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2021-09-16 4:11:14 PM  
I met Bob Dylan when I was a kid. He said to me, "Mumble, mumble mumble." I will never forget that.
 
2021-09-16 4:21:07 PM  

Spice Must Flow: I met Bob Dylan when I was a kid. He said to me, "Mumble, mumble mumble." I will never forget that.


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2021-09-16 4:32:08 PM  
I loved Infidels (1983) and some of his soundtrack work. I liked some of the Traveling Wilberrys back then, if less now. I saw him live in 1989 or 1990 with GE Smith and he sucked live.
 
2021-09-16 4:49:14 PM  
Bob Dylan Rehearses "We Are The World"
Youtube 1UfVmJBF-OY


You think Quincy Jones and crew would be hooting and clapping if someone else delivered this load of crap?
 
2021-09-16 4:49:33 PM  
I developed a late to the party appreciation of Dylan and would consider LARS a song that single-handedly turned R&R into high art.  But I don't think he went too far into the '70s before losing relevance.  When he be a Christian rocker, on purpose, not sure if he realized that the joke was on him. Jokerman is the only song I remember from the 80s.
 
2021-09-16 4:53:33 PM  
He made this in the 80s:
Bob Dylan - The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar (Official Audio)
Youtube sh4c4-1Ch0E


Still one of my favorites of his.
 
2021-09-16 4:59:53 PM  
He wrote probably my second favourite of his songs (first being Highway 61) in the 80's, unreleased until the Bootleg series in 1991.

Bob Dylan - Blind Willie McTell (Studio Outtake - 1983 - Official Audio)
Youtube _AIRdU6CPf0
 
2021-09-16 5:01:55 PM  
I assert that Bob Dylan is the worst live performing "icon" in the history of music. His live show is borderline adversarial with his audience, like he literally despises his fans, especially the suckers that paid $300 for a ticket. From his mumbling, to his back to the audience, to his refusal to play the classics, to his farked up rearrangements, it is a total sonic and visual middle finger. As a songwriter, he is a genius. As a song performer, he is an asshole.
 
2021-09-16 5:04:56 PM  
The only contemporary thing I liked of his is Masked and Anonymous.
 
2021-09-16 5:10:04 PM  
Was Bob Dylan Good in the Eighties? A New Edition of 'The Bootleg Series' Makes Us Think the Answer is 'Yes'.

Was Bob Dylan Smelly in the Eighties? Every Photo of Him From That Era Makes Us Think the Answer is a Resounding 'Peee-Ewww, Yes!'
 
2021-09-16 5:13:15 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: I assert that Bob Dylan is the worst live performing "icon" in the history of music. His live show is borderline adversarial with his audience, like he literally despises his fans, especially the suckers that paid $300 for a ticket. From his mumbling, to his back to the audience, to his refusal to play the classics, to his farked up rearrangements, it is a total sonic and visual middle finger. As a songwriter, he is a genius. As a song performer, he is an asshole.


That's the kind of stuff that happens when you can no longer see your audience at your gigs.  Bands and artists that are still hungry know the importance of balancing their desire for expression with the audience's desire for the familiar.  He's still riding on stuff he did more than 50 years ago.
 
2021-09-16 5:30:34 PM  

Billy Liar: The Pope of Manwich Village: I assert that Bob Dylan is the worst live performing "icon" in the history of music. His live show is borderline adversarial with his audience, like he literally despises his fans, especially the suckers that paid $300 for a ticket. From his mumbling, to his back to the audience, to his refusal to play the classics, to his farked up rearrangements, it is a total sonic and visual middle finger. As a songwriter, he is a genius. As a song performer, he is an asshole.

That's the kind of stuff that happens when you can no longer see your audience at your gigs.  Bands and artists that are still hungry know the importance of balancing their desire for expression with the audience's desire for the familiar.  He's still riding on stuff he did more than 50 years ago.


Still, there is something particularly sinister in how Dylan behaves on stage and I've been to some farked up shows before (Replacements drunk shows, over-the-hill Van Halen, Hall & Oates' Jazzy Time Maneater as a Slow Ballad I Demand My Money Back Jam Session, etc). Dylan is aloof, OK. Dylan is not making small talk between songs, OK. Dylan is completely indecipherable, OK. Dylan charges mega-$, OK. Dylan plays entirely new melodies with classic lyrics on top, OK. Any one of these individually is sort of manageable. All of them together? He should be ashamed of himself and retire immediately and go mope on his pile of money. Why not just license all his songs to Jakob and let him tour as Bob Dylan and give dad a piece of the annuity action? Man, now I'm whipped up.

Brutal.
 
2021-09-16 5:36:09 PM  
Neil Young has been better and more influential than Bob Dylan since the Seventies.

Change my mind.
 
2021-09-16 5:39:37 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: As a songwriter, he is a genius. As a song performer, he is an asshole.


Ditto your whole rant with Van Morrison.  I will never pay to see him again.
 
2021-09-16 5:39:45 PM  
Oh Mercy had some good moments, but other than that, yeah, the 80s were rough for Dylan (and pretty much anyone else who was making good music prior to the 80s).
 
2021-09-16 5:47:54 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Neil Young has been better and more influential than Bob Dylan since the Seventies.

Change my mind.


Everyone has their own opinion of course, but Good As I Been to You, World Gone Wrong, Time Out of Mind, and Love & Theftcompare favorably with Neil's best four albums over the past 40 years.
 
2021-09-16 6:04:16 PM  
No.

Dylan wrote several good songs in the 60s. Then he put 5 trillion words to music.

Dylan is a smart man and a funny man. He has amazing verbal resources and he has apparently never forgotten anything. Great virtues, but he never made friends with the trash can.
 
2021-09-16 6:30:51 PM  
Why has Adam Sandler not played Bob Dylan in a biopic?
 
2021-09-16 6:39:13 PM  

FDR Jones: Oh Mercy had some good moments, but other than that, yeah, the 80s were rough for Dylan (and pretty much anyone else who was making good music prior to the 80s).


"The Man in the Long Black Coat" is really good.
 
2021-09-16 6:52:53 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Still, there is something particularly sinister in how Dylan behaves on stage and I've been to some farked up shows before (Replacements drunk shows, over-the-hill Van Halen, Hall & Oates' Jazzy Time Maneater as a Slow Ballad I Demand My Money Back Jam Session, etc). Dylan is aloof, OK. Dylan is not making small talk between songs, OK. Dylan is completely indecipherable, OK. Dylan charges mega-$, OK. Dylan plays entirely new melodies with classic lyrics on top, OK. Any one of these individually is sort of manageable. All of them together? He should be ashamed of himself and retire immediately and go mope on his pile of money. Why not just license all his songs to Jakob and let him tour as Bob Dylan and give dad a piece of the annuity action? Man, now I'm whipped up.

Brutal.


The motherfarker was so bad, likely in the bag, when I saw him, GE Smith threw his arms up and stopped playing for a minute. The opening band killed it live despite the studio album they were touring to shill being ... Okay, and the boomer drunks yelling at them through their set to get off the stage. Really, Wiretrain killed it live. However, Dylan was out of tune. No problem. And shambling. Okay. Mumbling.  Still  totally cool. Out of tempo, and not consistently so the band could cope? Just terrible. They cut the set short. No second set. No encore. They just called it without telling the audience at the end of some awful iteration of some song. Went dark-ish as this was an outdoor amphitheater in early Summer. Lights off and some roadies and techs are rolling, tagging, and racking cables. His tour bus was skittering up the gravel road out of that valley before we could get to our cars.
 
2021-09-16 6:54:18 PM  

FDR Jones: Oh Mercy had some good moments, but other than that, yeah, the 80s were rough for Dylan (and pretty much anyone else who was making good music prior to the 80s).


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2021-09-16 7:23:03 PM  

mybluemake: The Pope of Manwich Village: Still, there is something particularly sinister in how Dylan behaves on stage and I've been to some farked up shows before (Replacements drunk shows, over-the-hill Van Halen, Hall & Oates' Jazzy Time Maneater as a Slow Ballad I Demand My Money Back Jam Session, etc). Dylan is aloof, OK. Dylan is not making small talk between songs, OK. Dylan is completely indecipherable, OK. Dylan charges mega-$, OK. Dylan plays entirely new melodies with classic lyrics on top, OK. Any one of these individually is sort of manageable. All of them together? He should be ashamed of himself and retire immediately and go mope on his pile of money. Why not just license all his songs to Jakob and let him tour as Bob Dylan and give dad a piece of the annuity action? Man, now I'm whipped up.

Brutal.

The motherfarker was so bad, likely in the bag, when I saw him, GE Smith threw his arms up and stopped playing for a minute. The opening band killed it live despite the studio album they were touring to shill being ... Okay, and the boomer drunks yelling at them through their set to get off the stage. Really, Wiretrain killed it live. However, Dylan was out of tune. No problem. And shambling. Okay. Mumbling.  Still  totally cool. Out of tempo, and not consistently so the band could cope? Just terrible. They cut the set short. No second set. No encore. They just called it without telling the audience at the end of some awful iteration of some song. Went dark-ish as this was an outdoor amphitheater in early Summer. Lights off and some roadies and techs are rolling, tagging, and racking cables. His tour bus was skittering up the gravel road out of that valley before we could get to our cars.


Look, I went to see The Cure in 2017. I hadn't seen them since the late 80s, when they were an OK, but not great, live band. In 2017, they were incredible, spellbinding, absolute masters of their craft. Nearly 4 hours, 34 incredibly tight songs with a light touch on the artsy arrangements, good mix of old and new, hits and deep catalog, 4 encores - Robert was just as mercurial as ever, but the entire audience - diehards and their dates - were literally in a state of musical bliss. The show flew by, because it was a veteran band putting on a supremely well rehearsed and thought out show, BECAUSE - EVEN AFTER 40 YEARS - THEY STILL FARKING CARE ABOUT THEIR LEGACY AND THEIR FANS. On that US tour, they played some combination of 78 different songs. I don't care if you are a fan of the band or not, you have to respect that level of professionalism and artistic integrity.

When I saw Dylan, he mumbled his way through 16 tunes and walked off the stage without saying a single spoken word to the audience - IN MINNESOTA, HIS BIRTHPLACE. Ass.
 
2021-09-16 8:01:24 PM  
Never got the appeal of Dylan. I think the covers of his songs are better than the originals.
 
2021-09-16 9:02:33 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Never got the appeal of Dylan. I think the covers of his songs are better than the originals.


So you're saying he's a good songwriter
 
2021-09-16 9:04:50 PM  

HanShotFirst: Why has Adam Sandler not played Bob Dylan in a biopic?


He's too good a singer.

/that would be some challenging lip-syncing
 
2021-09-16 9:31:12 PM  

FDR Jones: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Neil Young has been better and more influential than Bob Dylan since the Seventies.

Change my mind.

Everyone has their own opinion of course, but Good As I Been to You, World Gone Wrong, Time Out of Mind, and Love & Theftcompare favorably with Neil's best four albums over the past 40 years.


Oh, I certainly wouldn't say so. And my point, too, is the influence. An album like Rust Never Sleeps is far more important than any of those.
 
2021-09-16 10:40:19 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: FDR Jones: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Neil Young has been better and more influential than Bob Dylan since the Seventies.

Change my mind.

Everyone has their own opinion of course, but Good As I Been to You, World Gone Wrong, Time Out of Mind, and Love & Theftcompare favorably with Neil's best four albums over the past 40 years.

Oh, I certainly wouldn't say so. And my point, too, is the influence. An album like Rust Never Sleeps is far more important than any of those.


A live album from more than 40 years ago? Weak sauce.

I would argue neither has been particularly influential in recent decades, unless you count Neil's foray into grunge with Pearl Jam and all that.
 
2021-09-16 11:18:09 PM  
Well, that decade is bookended by Saved and Oh Mercyso let's just concentrate on those and "Series of Dreams."
 
2021-09-16 11:32:34 PM  
Soy bomb.
 
2021-09-16 11:42:09 PM  
Infidels is a great album. I dock it zero points for not jibing with my politics. It looks like I'm getting pulled in to listening to another multi-hour Dylan outtake dump.
 
2021-09-17 7:02:41 AM  
I can appreciate some 60's and early 70's Dylan and really liked the Travelling Wilburys.

I saw him live in Portland, Maine in the 80's and it was awful. I am glad that I get to say I saw him live but what a disappointment.
 
2021-09-17 9:22:31 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: Volume 16. Wow. I still have the original 1-3 box set from back in the day. I wish more artists would clear their vaults like Dylan does.


Neil Young's the only one I can think of who comes close. Like Dylan, he had a questionable period in the 80s, a resurgence in the 90s, then settled into making new music that's not groundbreaking, but not worthless, either. I don't rush out to buy new albums from either one at this point, but when I do pick one up, I always find something that makes me glad I did.
 
2021-09-17 1:00:57 PM  
I also consider the Dylan concert I saw in the 80's was the most disappointing. Nothing memorable. Just marked his name off the list of people I wanted to see before they died.

I know that may sound odd. But I had tickets for Zeppelin when Bonham passed. Also decided against going to see The Who on Moon's last tour.

Anyway, the Dylan concert had a bright spot. I was introduced to The Alarm. They were the opening act and they were good.
 
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