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(Guardian)   CVS: $7B in profit, ¢5 raise   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-09-16 12:08:10 PM  
$ and ¢ are like £ and p.  $ precedes the numeric amount, ¢ follows it, so "5¢ raise"

/username checks out
 
2021-09-16 12:12:07 PM  
Here's a fun trivia question: To denote the amount of currency, on the US penny it says "one cent".  On the nickel it says "five cents".  On the quarter it says "quarter dollar".  What does it say on the dime?

/yes I know there's no such thing as a US penny.
 
2021-09-16 2:18:49 PM  

Persnickety: Here's a fun trivia question: To denote the amount of currency, on the US penny it says "one cent".  On the nickel it says "five cents".  On the quarter it says "quarter dollar".  What does it say on the dime?

/yes I know there's no such thing as a US penny.


in god we trust
 
2021-09-16 2:24:50 PM  

Persnickety: Here's a fun trivia question: To denote the amount of currency, on the US penny it says "one cent".  On the nickel it says "five cents".  On the quarter it says "quarter dollar".  What does it say on the dime?

/yes I know there's no such thing as a US penny.


in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
 
2021-09-16 2:26:27 PM  
at a previous gig i got "promoted" from hourly to a salary position.  the raise was equivalent to 10 cents/hour.  that was years ago and i was pissed then (still kinda am) at how insulting it was.  that said it didn't get pissed, i didn't protest i just followed the sage advice of a childhood hero


The Simpsons - Half-Ass Work Ethic
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and man did i ever.
 
2021-09-16 2:34:22 PM  
Wow, I know of retailers that have upped their starting rate by $2-$3/hour over the last 15 months.
 
2021-09-16 2:47:25 PM  
There are 2 CVS near me with damn near empty shelves in all aisles but the pharmacy is just chugging along. All registers are do it yourself and there is only a "manager" hanging around up there to make sure you swipe your card right when you check out. I've complained to the regional people and they said they "can't afford" to pay non pharmacy workers more
 
2021-09-16 2:50:05 PM  
The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.
 
2021-09-16 2:58:02 PM  

tom baker's scarf: Persnickety: Here's a fun trivia question: To denote the amount of currency, on the US penny it says "one cent".  On the nickel it says "five cents".  On the quarter it says "quarter dollar".  What does it say on the dime?

/yes I know there's no such thing as a US penny.

in god we trust


In drug sales we trust
 
2021-09-16 2:58:55 PM  

SBinRR: Wow, I know of retailers that have upped their starting rate by $2-$3/hour over the last 15 months.


Thats called damage control

They r worried abt their reputation
 
2021-09-16 2:59:20 PM  
I didn't know CVS and places like that are unionized.
 
2021-09-16 2:59:44 PM  
Hall also criticized the proposed wage increases that CVS has offered workers who have endured the risks and poor working conditions caused by Covid-19, and said that full-time employees are facing cuts to their work schedules from 40 hours to 30 hours a week, which can result in a devastating loss of income.
"The first thing they want to do is they want to cut a quarter of everybody's paycheck, and then they want to offer a nickel raise and say, 'we're taking care of our workers.'" Hall said. "Workers wouldn't be able to pay their rent, buy groceries, take care of their children or put gas in their car. If anybody loses a quarter of their paycheck, how are they supposed to make adjustments and survive?"


Wow!  Ebenezer Scrooge level stinginess.
 
2021-09-16 3:00:33 PM  

eagles95: There are 2 CVS near me with damn near empty shelves in all aisles but the pharmacy is just chugging along. All registers are do it yourself and there is only a "manager" hanging around up there to make sure you swipe your card right when you check out. I've complained to the regional people and they said they "can't afford" to pay non pharmacy workers more


Drugs are where its at
 
2021-09-16 3:01:14 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.


Let the customer get his drugs is what i say
 
2021-09-16 3:02:19 PM  

No_Sir: Hall also criticized the proposed wage increases that CVS has offered workers who have endured the risks and poor working conditions caused by Covid-19, and said that full-time employees are facing cuts to their work schedules from 40 hours to 30 hours a week, which can result in a devastating loss of income.
"The first thing they want to do is they want to cut a quarter of everybody's paycheck, and then they want to offer a nickel raise and say, 'we're taking care of our workers.'" Hall said. "Workers wouldn't be able to pay their rent, buy groceries, take care of their children or put gas in their car. If anybody loses a quarter of their paycheck, how are they supposed to make adjustments and survive?"

Wow!  Ebenezer Scrooge level stinginess.


Used car salesman capitalism is a hellava drug
 
2021-09-16 3:08:28 PM  
My employer (public library) currently has a bunch of jobs we can't fill.  For example, a circulation (checkout) assistant, part time.  Which really also includes duties for at least two other jobs ("as needed"), for the same salary.  And prefers a bachelor's degree.  And prefers bilingual fluency.  And needs morning, afternoon, and weekend availability, for 14 hours/week, with zero benefits.  All for around $14/hour.  And they can't figure out why no one wants the job, or at least no one who isn't so useless they leave after a few weeks.

/smdh
 
2021-09-16 3:10:04 PM  

eagles95: There are 2 CVS near me with damn near empty shelves in all aisles but the pharmacy is just chugging along. All registers are do it yourself and there is only a "manager" hanging around up there to make sure you swipe your card right when you check out. I've complained to the regional people and they said they "can't afford" to pay non pharmacy workers more


MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.


Our line is "but we just reallocated the workforce from standing behind the register to out on the floor so they can help you with the checkout AND do salesfloor work. In reality, they took away 20 labor hours for every self checkout installed. NOW, and this is a big asterik, this was done under previous leadership. We had a huge changeover in January of the top of the food chain and they are, let's just say, less than pleased with how things were budgeted in the stores. That's why in the earnings call they said the vast majority of the investment was going to be in 2022: they are putting more labor back into stores. Our fear is it will be too late. I think the idea is to build up labor for the holidays, then just keep them afterwards.
 
2021-09-16 4:06:33 PM  

shroom: My employer (public library) currently has a bunch of jobs we can't fill.  For example, a circulation (checkout) assistant, part time.  Which really also includes duties for at least two other jobs ("as needed"), for the same salary.  And prefers a bachelor's degree.  And prefers bilingual fluency.  And needs morning, afternoon, and weekend availability, for 14 hours/week, with zero benefits.  All for around $14/hour.  And they can't figure out why no one wants the job, or at least no one who isn't so useless they leave after a few weeks.

/smdh


4year degree and bilingual for the whopping sum of $9,500/year with a schedule that keeps you from getting another job and none of those pesky benefits and they STILL can't find anyone!?!?!
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2021-09-16 4:24:43 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.


Why stop there? Let's go back to the days when the general store clerk pulled your items from the back. Yeah, I'll have ten pounds of flour. You can just put it on the wagon.
 
2021-09-16 4:25:34 PM  

tom baker's scarf: shroom: My employer (public library) currently has a bunch of jobs we can't fill.  For example, a circulation (checkout) assistant, part time.  Which really also includes duties for at least two other jobs ("as needed"), for the same salary.  And prefers a bachelor's degree.  And prefers bilingual fluency.  And needs morning, afternoon, and weekend availability, for 14 hours/week, with zero benefits.  All for around $14/hour.  And they can't figure out why no one wants the job, or at least no one who isn't so useless they leave after a few weeks.

/smdh

4year degree and bilingual for the whopping sum of $9,500/year with a schedule that keeps you from getting another job and none of those pesky benefits and they STILL can't find anyone!?!?!
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And that particular job is actually open right now because the girl who had it (and had a 2nd job at another library) quit because the manager was being pissy about being flexible enough with the schedule to accompdate both jobs.

She structures the schedule such that an actual competent adult can't take it (not even a high school student, because of the mornings), then structures the job description to want a college-educated professional, and then gets pissy about not finding anyone to take it.

/smdh
 
2021-09-16 4:33:40 PM  

tom baker's scarf: shroom: My employer (public library) currently has a bunch of jobs we can't fill.  For example, a circulation (checkout) assistant, part time.  Which really also includes duties for at least two other jobs ("as needed"), for the same salary.  And prefers a bachelor's degree.  And prefers bilingual fluency.  And needs morning, afternoon, and weekend availability, for 14 hours/week, with zero benefits.  All for around $14/hour.  And they can't figure out why no one wants the job, or at least no one who isn't so useless they leave after a few weeks.

/smdh

4year degree and bilingual for the whopping sum of $9,500/year with a schedule that keeps you from getting another job and none of those pesky benefits and they STILL can't find anyone!?!?!
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I should further clarify that there's no actual reason for a 4-year degree for this particular job as it's intended to be.  Yet they ask for a degree anyway.
 
2021-09-16 4:39:39 PM  

shroom: tom baker's scarf: shroom: My employer (public library) currently has a bunch of jobs we can't fill.  For example, a circulation (checkout) assistant, part time.  Which really also includes duties for at least two other jobs ("as needed"), for the same salary.  And prefers a bachelor's degree.  And prefers bilingual fluency.  And needs morning, afternoon, and weekend availability, for 14 hours/week, with zero benefits.  All for around $14/hour.  And they can't figure out why no one wants the job, or at least no one who isn't so useless they leave after a few weeks.

/smdh

4year degree and bilingual for the whopping sum of $9,500/year with a schedule that keeps you from getting another job and none of those pesky benefits and they STILL can't find anyone!?!?!
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I should further clarify that there's no actual reason for a 4-year degree for this particular job as it's intended to be.  Yet they ask for a degree anyway.


asking for one and not needing it is even dumber still.
 
2021-09-16 5:28:16 PM  

Felix Tekat: MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.

Why stop there? Let's go back to the days when the general store clerk pulled your items from the back. Yeah, I'll have ten pounds of flour. You can just put it on the wagon.


Not sure I understand your "analogy". What does it have to do with the customer having to be responsible for the check-out and whether it works properly or not?

I'll give an update later, after I thow a few things in the bag without scanning them first...which, right now, sounds like a pretty fun idea. Heck, I can pretend to scan them knowing full well I didn't do it properly...but "how am I to know" and be responsible for an error?
Or what if the price comes up wrong? I can either accept it or "call for help" and wait and wait until the person "on the floor" shows up.
fark that. I might just have some fun with their system this weekend just to screw with them.
 
2021-09-16 5:57:12 PM  

Linux_Yes: eagles95: There are 2 CVS near me with damn near empty shelves in all aisles but the pharmacy is just chugging along. All registers are do it yourself and there is only a "manager" hanging around up there to make sure you swipe your card right when you check out. I've complained to the regional people and they said they "can't afford" to pay non pharmacy workers more

Drugs are where its at


They are also linked to Cardinal Health, which is part of the opioid assholes that flooded a town of 4,000 people with like 4 million pills or something.
 
2021-09-16 6:07:01 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Felix Tekat: MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.

Why stop there? Let's go back to the days when the general store clerk pulled your items from the back. Yeah, I'll have ten pounds of flour. You can just put it on the wagon.

Not sure I understand your "analogy". What does it have to do with the customer having to be responsible for the check-out and whether it works properly or not?

I'll give an update later, after I thow a few things in the bag without scanning them first...which, right now, sounds like a pretty fun idea. Heck, I can pretend to scan them knowing full well I didn't do it properly...but "how am I to know" and be responsible for an error?
Or what if the price comes up wrong? I can either accept it or "call for help" and wait and wait until the person "on the floor" shows up.
fark that. I might just have some fun with their system this weekend just to screw with them.


Jesus Christ, it's literally a swipe and scan. You go and fetch the merchandise you want off the counter yourself already. This is the equivalent to pay. You think you sound smart as shiat going "it's not my fault if I steal something" and instead you look like this
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2021-09-16 6:21:40 PM  
All of the budget went to the paper for the receipts.
 
2021-09-16 6:37:59 PM  

jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.


No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...
 
2021-09-16 6:40:45 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...


It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.
 
2021-09-16 10:20:33 PM  
you're already in a union?  Your union sucks.
 
2021-09-16 10:37:40 PM  

jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.


In California, one cannot buy alcohol at a self checkout. I might have 25 things in the trolley, and one of them is a six pack of beer. So one has to stand in line , because they only have one checker.
Also- every self checkout is taking away a boring but useful jorb from someone. I am for giving someone a boring but useful jorb.
 
2021-09-16 11:16:27 PM  

alienated: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

In California, one cannot buy alcohol at a self checkout. I might have 25 things in the trolley, and one of them is a six pack of beer. So one has to stand in line , because they only have one checker.
Also- every self checkout is taking away a boring but useful jorb from someone. I am for giving someone a boring but useful jorb.


You're not taking away any jobs. The company already did that. Over time, self-checkout kiosks are cheaper than paying an employee.
 
2021-09-17 2:00:47 AM  

jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.


A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.
 
2021-09-17 7:55:43 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.


Corporate strategy consultants. They feed idiots a bottom line of saving X amount, and they implement their recommendations.
 
2021-09-17 10:01:16 AM  
Five cent raise is simply a "fark you, peasant", not a raise.
 
2021-09-17 10:23:57 AM  

Smackledorfer: And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.


My local whole foods disabled the bagging area scale altogether, so it's a lot smoother than the other stores. Sprouts i probably have a problem 80% of the time or so but the attendant quickly clears every predictable problem (and i predictably complain each time about their awful bagging scale and how it should be disabled). Vons closes their self checkout so early i have to get in a huge line anyway. Ralphs you're farked no matter what you do - every line is a clusterfark. Trader Joe's and Jons meanwhile simply hire enough cashiers for the store. CVS you're lucky if the self checkout isnt broken haha.

It's probably completely different even among different stores in the same chain though.... But i find it has less to do with self checkout specifically and more to do with how well a company is willing to focus on customer experience.
 
2021-09-17 12:28:59 PM  

My Second Fark Account: Smackledorfer: And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

My local whole foods disabled the bagging area scale altogether, so it's a lot smoother than the other stores. Sprouts i probably have a problem 80% of the time or so but the attendant quickly clears every predictable problem (and i predictably complain each time about their awful bagging scale and how it should be disabled). Vons closes their self checkout so early i have to get in a huge line anyway. Ralphs you're farked no matter what you do - every line is a clusterfark. Trader Joe's and Jons meanwhile simply hire enough cashiers for the store. CVS you're lucky if the self checkout isnt broken haha.

It's probably completely different even among different stores in the same chain though.... But i find it has less to do with self checkout specifically and more to do with how well a company is willing to focus on customer experience.


Probably true.

I know home depot's self checkout rarely gives me trouble, but I usual only go for one or two items at a time.
 
2021-09-17 3:29:07 PM  

Smackledorfer: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.


And we're talking about CVS's checkouts, not Targets. I'm literally telling you what the machine does since I work there and you're brining up "well X business had this occur so obviously it happens everywhere."
 
2021-09-17 3:46:34 PM  

jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.

And we're talking about CVS's checkouts, not Targets. I'm literally telling you what the machine does since I work there and you're brining up "well X business had this occur so obviously it happens everywhere."


This is a pathetic fallback after your earlier jpg.
 
2021-09-17 6:32:28 PM  

Smackledorfer: jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.

And we're talking about CVS's checkouts, not Targets. I'm literally telling you what the machine does since I work there and you're brining up "well X business had this occur so obviously it happens everywhere."

This is a pathetic fallback after your earlier jpg.


I despise the labor model we as a company are using. I stated that earlier. The self checkout should be an assistant, not the primary. At the same time, I farking hate people who act like the self checkout is the ancient sea scrolls and have no idea what they are doing. No, you're being farking lazy.
 
2021-09-17 7:03:25 PM  

jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.

And we're talking about CVS's checkouts, not Targets. I'm literally telling you what the machine does since I work there and you're brining up "well X business had this occur so obviously it happens everywhere."

This is a pathetic fallback after your earlier jpg.

I despise the labor model we as a company are using. I stated that earlier. The self checkout should be an assistant, not the primary. At the same time, I farking hate people who act like the self checkout is the ancient sea scrolls and have no idea what they are doing. No, you're being farking lazy.


Just the CVS one or all the other ones discussed here?

Because now you sound very inconsistent here. Are you upset I have experienced flaws in other self checkout systems, or do you think I'm acting like they are the ancient sea scrolls?
 
2021-09-17 7:21:15 PM  

Smackledorfer: jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.

And we're talking about CVS's checkouts, not Targets. I'm literally telling you what the machine does since I work there and you're brining up "well X business had this occur so obviously it happens everywhere."

This is a pathetic fallback after your earlier jpg.

I despise the labor model we as a company are using. I stated that earlier. The self checkout should be an assistant, not the primary. At the same time, I farking hate people who act like the self checkout is the ancient sea scrolls and have no idea what they are doing. No, you're being farking lazy.

Just the CVS one or all the other ones discussed here?

Because now you sound very inconsistent here. Are ...


My issue is you are automatically assuming the issue is universal, that because you had issues at another retailer therefore it's all of them and you can speak with expertise on this subject. Are the CVS self checkouts perfect? Nope. Do they miss items? Nope. The scale is actually a little sensitive. But don't act like your issues somewhere else translate to issues here.
 
2021-09-17 7:53:41 PM  

jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: Smackledorfer: jayphat: MelGoesOnTour: jayphat: it's literally a swipe and scan.

No, it's not like that (as I said). It's more like "Swipe and scan fails most of the time" in my experince to the extent that, right now, I think you're simply being an asshole.

/ wipe behind your ears next time around, 'Putz!
//sheesh...

It literally doesn't. It's incredibly accurate, so long as you don't try to go Johnny Speedracer with an item every .25 seconds across it. Scan item, place in bag, scan next item. It's pretty accurate. What seems to cause issues is VERY lightweight items like greeting cards.

A target in Yuma did self scan only, and the other poster is correct. It wasn't about speed or anything.  I had multiple items flag an employee to check, which required ceasing scanning until one came over.

And I've yet to self scan anywhere that didn't throw a shiat fit about where I put the items.

It's in the goddamn bag. You want me to remove it and put it back? fark off.

Coupons don't scan right, and no produce that requires manual entry can be done.

Self scan is a failure. And as others pointer out, I find it hard to believe they done create an employee's worth of shrinkage - that's only like a few percent of scanners being dishonest about a small amount of their purchases.

And we're talking about CVS's checkouts, not Targets. I'm literally telling you what the machine does since I work there and you're brining up "well X business had this occur so obviously it happens everywhere."

This is a pathetic fallback after your earlier jpg.

I despise the labor model we as a company are using. I stated that earlier. The self checkout should be an assistant, not the primary. At the same time, I farking hate people who act like the self checkout is the ancient sea scrolls and have no idea what they are doing. No, you're being farking lazy.

Just the CVS one or all the other ones discussed here?

Because now you sound very inconsistent here. Are ...

My issue is you are automatically assuming the issue is universal, that because you had issues at another retailer therefore it's all of them and you can speak with expertise on this subject. Are the CVS self checkouts perfect? Nope. Do they miss items? Nope. The scale is actually a little sensitive. But don't act like your issues somewhere else translate to issues here.


You aren't the thread moderator or police, and I am allowed to reply to another poster than you about non-cvs scanners without you're permission. There is no need presume I was speaking directly to you when I replied to someone else.

And this is your third side-step after engaging me, so I'm done with you today. You seem to believe my posts not even directed at you have to be about you, and only about you, but you can't even reply to me without dancing about.
 
2021-09-17 9:33:06 PM  

SBinRR: Wow, I know of retailers that have upped their starting rate by $2-$3/hour over the last 15 months.


Still not nearly enough.
 
2021-09-17 9:34:41 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.


Wow, you must have been really pissed when grocery stores switched from the "hand your list to the grocer, who gets everything for you" model to the current "find your items in the aisles yoursels" format. What, so you're just supposed to do the job of the grocer now???
 
2021-09-17 9:35:45 PM  

Felix Tekat: MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.

Why stop there? Let's go back to the days when the general store clerk pulled your items from the back. Yeah, I'll have ten pounds of flour. You can just put it on the wagon.


Hah, we made the same comment from opposite directions.
 
2021-09-17 9:38:32 PM  
On case you were wondering, it works out to about an extra $60 a month, after taxes. If you work 40 hours. Which they don't, because their hours are being cut. So it's closer to an additional $45 a month, which gets more than absorbed by the 25% reduction in hours.
 
2021-09-17 11:47:08 PM  

austerity101: MelGoesOnTour: The CVS near me installed some of those "self check-out" machines. I fear the next step is they'll have fewer actual cashiers (they are always short handed to begin with). The machines are not only irritating (they voice commands are loud) but, mainly, if I'm buying something there I am NOT about to do the work of checking myself out. I mean, what happens if i "forget" to scan something (which I very well might just do out of spite)?
In reality, however, the one time I did try to use of of the self-checkouts it did not read the coupons. So I had to press the help button...meaning that the lone cashier had to stop what she was doing to come to my machine, at which point the line at her register got longer.

I have no idea who comes up with these "let the customer do it himself" ideas but they ought to be shot.

Wow, you must have been really pissed when grocery stores switched from the "hand your list to the grocer, who gets everything for you" model to the current "find your items in the aisles yoursels" format. What, so you're just supposed to do the job of the grocer now???


That's why you, specifically, work as the "hired help" while others don't.

Sheesh...
 
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