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(Some Guy)   "From the Bush administration until today, Republican Party leaders have time and again crossed lines that the fourth estate should have been defending, but didn't"   (presswatchers.org) divider line
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2021-09-16 10:15:01 AM  
Yes, well then the Republicans would say mean things about them.
 
2021-09-16 3:29:21 PM  
Should have been, "Since 1960..."

GOP died when Eisenhower left office.
 
2021-09-16 3:30:46 PM  
Just like every other employee is on the same team and gives the boss what he or she wants.
 
2021-09-16 3:31:00 PM  
Sadly, I think in the GWB administration, it was more about journalists losing access if they would question too much. Because that would hurt their careers.
 
2021-09-16 3:32:32 PM  
Don't worry FoxNews viewers despise foreigners and will not understand anything he says.

He will be on MSNBC with two years.
 
2021-09-16 3:33:58 PM  

EvilEgg: Yes, well then the Republicans would say mean things about them.


And they wouldn't get invited to interviews or the country club. Won't someone think of the dullard journalism majors?!!!
 
2021-09-16 3:34:15 PM  

sinner4ever: Don't worry FoxNews viewers despise foreigners and will not understand anything he says.

He will be on MSNBC with two years.


Sorry , wrong thread.
 
2021-09-16 3:35:32 PM  

EvilEgg: Yes, well then the Republicans would say mean things about them.


We make fun of sovereign citizen types for thinking that a few magic words of legal mumbo jumbo will set them free, but it's not hard to see where they got the idea. Republicans have distilled their assholery down into simple phrases that make the media and Democrats buckle like a belt. Liberal media! Soft on crime! Socialism! It's amazing how well those magic words work to shut down rational discussion so the GOP can continue grifting, plundering, and cruelifying everything.

We are trapped in a cage of our own making.
 
2021-09-16 3:35:47 PM  
They sent the nation to war on a lie, lied about its conduct, lied about surveillance, lied about torture, lied to cover up their misdeeds. They lied about taxes, they lied about Democrats. Eventually, under Trump, they lied about almost everything. They turned Americans against each other - mostly whites against "other".

And rather than call out these affronts to core journalistic values, mainstream reporters took notes. The press coverage was largely anodyne, because news journalists aren't supposed to "take sides". But without a powerful, unified voice from the mainstream media consistently asserting the truth and unabashedly upholding values like plurality and tolerance, the lies and the nativism spread and took hold among a horrifyingly large chunk of the public.

You won't get any indication of that in the news columns of the Washington Post or the New York Times (although you may see it in the opinion sections).

It would require sober self-reflection and humility. It would mean putting aside two decades of day-in-day-out self-rationalization. It would mean admitting they failed.


Show me the lie.
 
2021-09-16 3:35:59 PM  

indy_kid: Should have been, "Since 1960..."

GOP died when Eisenhower left office.


The Birchers were the forefathers of the modern GOP. They managed to get the nutjob Barry Goldwater nominated for president and he got absolutely crushed by LBJ. Goldwater, bonkers as he was, at least had some personal integrity. Then Nixon added his dash of paranoia and political canniness to initiate the Southern Strategy which remains to this day the ur-ideology of the Republican party. Reagan put a smile on bigotry while convincing a bunch of Boomers to kneecap their kids.
 
2021-09-16 3:36:28 PM  
Maybe because the same people who buy the politicians own the media corporations?
 
2021-09-16 3:40:21 PM  
dEmoCrACy DiEs iN DaRKneSs
 
2021-09-16 3:42:06 PM  
If Republicans started putting people in mass graves, the headline would be:

"Democrats say Republicans murder thousands"
 
2021-09-16 3:42:37 PM  
If they held people accountable, those people would stop giving the press access. So letting them lie and lie and lie is really the only reasonable profitable answer.
 
2021-09-16 3:45:01 PM  
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2021-09-16 3:45:45 PM  
Only the Bush administration?
 
2021-09-16 3:47:21 PM  
They sent the nation to war on a lie, lied about its conduct, lied about surveillance, lied about torture, lied to cover up their misdeeds. They lied about taxes, they lied about Democrats. Eventually, under Trump, they lied about almost everything. They turned Americans against each other - mostly whites against "other".

And rather than call out these affronts to core journalistic values, mainstream reporters took notes. The press coverage was largely anodyne, because news journalists aren't supposed to "take sides". But without a powerful, unified voice from the mainstream media consistently asserting the truth and unabashedly upholding values like plurality and tolerance, the lies and the nativism spread and took hold among a horrifyingly large chunk of the public.

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2021-09-16 3:47:37 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: They sent the nation to war on a lie, lied about its conduct, lied about surveillance, lied about torture, lied to cover up their misdeeds. They lied about taxes, they lied about Democrats. Eventually, under Trump, they lied about almost everything. They turned Americans against each other - mostly whites against "other".

And rather than call out these affronts to core journalistic values, mainstream reporters took notes. The press coverage was largely anodyne, because news journalists aren't supposed to "take sides". But without a powerful, unified voice from the mainstream media consistently asserting the truth and unabashedly upholding values like plurality and tolerance, the lies and the nativism spread and took hold among a horrifyingly large chunk of the public.

You won't get any indication of that in the news columns of the Washington Post or the New York Times (although you may see it in the opinion sections).

It would require sober self-reflection and humility. It would mean putting aside two decades of day-in-day-out self-rationalization. It would mean admitting they failed.

Show me the lie.


The lie is the idea the NYTimes or WaPo would ever dare to challenge mainstream conservatism in the opinion section. Their opinion sections are more conservative than their news coverage.
 
2021-09-16 3:49:15 PM  
Corporations pay the bills... and the bribes.
 
2021-09-16 3:52:04 PM  
Snowden better be remembered as a hero, goddammit.

There are a few good people unwilling to watch their constitution be nibbled to death by tyrants.
 
2021-09-16 3:53:25 PM  
"...as we painfully extracted ourselves from war in Afghanistan, provided an opportunity for some serious self-reflection and self-assessment from the leaders of our major newsrooms."

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2021-09-16 3:55:35 PM  
The problem was caused by the 1996 Telecommunications Act that deregulated news media ownership.
 
2021-09-16 3:55:53 PM  

DarnoKonrad: If Republicans started putting people in mass graves, the headline would be:

"Democrats say Republicans murder thousands"


They are.  See: COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate Bans, and Hesistancy.  See: Any time a mask gets mentioned.
 
2021-09-16 4:00:04 PM  
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2021-09-16 4:00:22 PM  

Purple_Urkle: The problem was caused by the 1996 Telecommunications Act that deregulated news media ownership.


And before that when Reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine in the 80s which paved the way for the likes of Rush Limbaugh to overrun the AM airwaves.
 
2021-09-16 4:01:44 PM  
Reagan. They've been doing it since Reagan.
 
2021-09-16 4:10:13 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: They sent the nation to war on a lie, lied about its conduct, lied about surveillance, lied about torture, lied to cover up their misdeeds. They lied about taxes, they lied about Democrats. Eventually, under Trump, they lied about almost everything. They turned Americans against each other - mostly whites against "other".

And rather than call out these affronts to core journalistic values, mainstream reporters took notes. The press coverage was largely anodyne, because news journalists aren't supposed to "take sides". But without a powerful, unified voice from the mainstream media consistently asserting the truth and unabashedly upholding values like plurality and tolerance, the lies and the nativism spread and took hold among a horrifyingly large chunk of the public.

You won't get any indication of that in the news columns of the Washington Post or the New York Times (although you may see it in the opinion sections).

It would require sober self-reflection and humility. It would mean putting aside two decades of day-in-day-out self-rationalization. It would mean admitting they failed.

Show me the lie.


Easy. "Afghanistan and Iraq had anything to do with 9/11".

Bin Laden was Saudi and was supported by Saudis. His accomplices were entirely Saudi.

Bin Laden was living on Pakistan.

Both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are dangerous theocratic states, Pakistan supports terror and has nuclear weapons.

But we went to war with two countries that had no connection to 9/11 whatsoever.
 
2021-09-16 4:14:24 PM  
And yet they media refuses to cover Hunters laptops
 
2021-09-16 4:17:24 PM  
They did.  They covered that the computer store guy was a fraud and the entire situation was extremely fishy at best and left it at that.
 
2021-09-16 4:21:31 PM  
Any article talking about what happened in the news media from 2001 onward that fails to even mention the rise of the internet and the great news hollowing out that followed is looking at the problem through a soda straw.  The "mainstream media" is now a barely a shell of what it once was.  Hundreds of local papers disappeared during this timeframe and the circulation of former giants like the NY Times and Washington Post is barely enough to pay for the ink, let alone investigative reporting.

The fourth estate is broken, replaced by Facebook groups and other echo chambers where people can wrap themselves in a bubble and only hear what they want to hear.  Hell, we just had an article the other day about how OANN didn't even report the results of the California recall election, a story they had been following and hyping for months prior.  That's the world we live in now.

TFA laments that "there is zero appetite within the leadership of our major newsrooms to change course."  Well, guess what?  There aren't any major newsrooms anymore.
 
2021-09-16 4:24:13 PM  
I don't know what this guy is on about, the media has done a fantastic job defending QOP leaders
 
2021-09-16 4:24:47 PM  

Purple_Urkle: The problem was caused by the 1996 Telecommunications Act that deregulated news media ownership.


But hey! Personal tracking devices Cell phones!
 
2021-09-16 4:24:51 PM  

snowshovel: And yet they media refuses to cover Hunters laptops


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Leave it to a biatchass troll to whatabout a breakdown of social contracts. Which, in all likelihood would have your dumbass in a farking ward where you belong if they weren't sabotaged by the GOP prior to Bush via that other wretched gargoyle, Saint Ronald the dementia patient.
 
2021-09-16 4:41:03 PM  

misanthropicsob: Only the Bush administration?


Oh no.

In the most charitable interpretation possible, with the 1994 "Republican Revolution."

But it became really, really, patently obvious that the media was in bed with the enemies of truth and democracy after 2000.
 
2021-09-16 4:42:49 PM  
The media sure figured out how to take sides when it came to Occupy Wall Street. Suddenly they were unified in their vocal opposition to the movement.
 
2021-09-16 4:43:43 PM  
"As the BLM protests continue, let's talk to some racists to see how they feel about it."
 
2021-09-16 4:53:00 PM  
It's something I think back to occasionally.

Got all these centrist talking heads who claim that they're balanced, have no biases and are 100% fair, but then stuff that SHOULD be a big story is ignored because it would anger the Right wing, or it wouldn't get enough clicks, or it makes the owning corporation look bad. End result is a distrust in the media that's entirely their own fault because it's obvious what they're doing to anyone who pays attention. We leave Afghanistan and then we get a "oh no now the bad guys are gonna control all that lithium that we need to fight GLOBAL WARMING" piece, who do they think they're fooling?

What do these reporters and news orgs think will happen to them in a fascist revolution? There'd only be so much room at the state propaganda mill.
 
2021-09-16 5:01:22 PM  

anjin-san: dEmoCrACy DiEs iN DaRKneSs


Now hurry up and pay us 20 dollars a month or we'll paywall you.
 
2021-09-16 5:01:45 PM  
Jon Stewart on Crossfire
Youtube aFQFB5YpDZE


Jon Stewart: "See, the thing is, we need your help. Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations. And we're left out there to mow our lawns."

Paul Begala: "By beating up on them? You just said we're too rough on them when they make mistakes."

Jon Stewart: "No, no, no, you're not too rough on them. You're part of their strategies. You are partisan, what do you call it, hacks."


austerity101: The media sure figured out how to take sides when it came to Occupy Wall Street. Suddenly they were unified in their vocal opposition to the movement.


"As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.'

In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

https://www.avclub.com/the-telecommun​i​cations-act-of-1996-gave-us-shiatty-ce​ll-1798250823
 
2021-09-16 5:52:03 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/aFQFB5Yp​DZE]

Jon Stewart: "See, the thing is, we need your help. Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations. And we're left out there to mow our lawns."

Paul Begala: "By beating up on them? You just said we're too rough on them when they make mistakes."

Jon Stewart: "No, no, no, you're not too rough on them. You're part of their strategies. You are partisan, what do you call it, hacks."


austerity101: The media sure figured out how to take sides when it came to Occupy Wall Street. Suddenly they were unified in their vocal opposition to the movement.

"As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.'

In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

https://www.avclub.com/the-telecommuni​cations-act-of-1996-gave-us-shiatty-ce​ll-1798250823


Yeah, nothing has changed in 20 years
 
2021-09-16 8:20:36 PM  

snowshovel: And yet they media refuses to cover Hunters laptops


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2021-09-16 9:57:15 PM  
I loved journalism in high school. I would have majored in it. Then 9/11 happened. I was 15 and I knew after that, shiat was taking a turn.

/accountant
//tax shiat for the state
 
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