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(Ars Technica)   The US healthcare system is beginning to collapse from the strain of COVID-19. This is not a repeat from January   (arstechnica.com) divider line
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2021-09-16 2:44:30 AM  
Thanks Obama
 
2021-09-16 3:03:38 AM  
My state today. Things ain't getting better.

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Fu£k each and every goddamn Republican that cynically made this a political issue. You've killed thousands of people, you soulless bastards.
 
2021-09-16 3:42:05 AM  

MrBallou: My state today. Things ain't getting better.

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Fu£k each and every goddamn Republican that cynically made this a political issue. You've killed thousands of people, you soulless bastards.


Hell is full of Rape-ug-li-cans.
 
2021-09-16 3:56:47 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: MrBallou: My state today. Things ain't getting better.

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Fu£k each and every goddamn Republican that cynically made this a political issue. You've killed thousands of people, you soulless bastards.

Hell is full of Rape-ug-li-cans.


Not full. Plenty of room for the covid deniers currently dying of covid.
 
2021-09-16 5:19:01 AM  

MrBallou: My state today. Things ain't getting better.

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Fu£k each and every goddamn Republican that cynically made this a political issue. You've killed thousands of people, you soulless bastards.


As a liberal, though, I feel so owned. And in the end, isn't that all that matters?

/s obviously
 
2021-09-16 5:33:11 AM  
Today in my state we will be over 10,000 deaths from covid, thanks morons!
 
2021-09-16 5:34:12 AM  
"system"
 
2021-09-16 5:39:54 AM  
My local hospital system (Lee Health, in Florida) has been putting out press releases via Facebook daily with a Covid census, number of admissions, discharges (and deaths), and percentage of operating capacity available.

As of yesterday, we have 96% of our ICU beds filled in the county, and 95% of our hospital beds. That's not atypical; I've seen ICU's as full as 98% (we have 50 ICU beds, apparently), and normal beds up to 101%. I've seen neither below 90% in the past month.

And, yes, our local Tractor Supply Co is out of Ivermectin. Why do you ask?
 
2021-09-16 5:54:33 AM  

TwowheelinTim: Thanks Obama


Guns are only a crutch for people who can't handle katanas.
 
2021-09-16 5:58:08 AM  
Are hospitals and health insurance companies missing out on record profits this year? If not the system is working exactly as designed.
 
2021-09-16 5:58:32 AM  
If only there were some kind of preventative medical procedure that could prevent something like this from happening.

If only.
 
2021-09-16 6:05:44 AM  
This is a temporary problem. The article said deaths are on the increase for weeks to come, which will free space for new patients.
 
2021-09-16 6:13:43 AM  
Can Biden issue an executive order allowing hospitals to refuse patients who have refused to get vaccinated?

(I doubt such a bill would pass the Senate.)
 
2021-09-16 6:15:09 AM  

Tallman: My local hospital system (Lee Health, in Florida) has been putting out press releases via Facebook daily with a Covid census, number of admissions, discharges (and deaths), and percentage of operating capacity available.

As of yesterday, we have 96% of our ICU beds filled in the county, and 95% of our hospital beds. That's not atypical; I've seen ICU's as full as 98% (we have 50 ICU beds, apparently), and normal beds up to 101%. I've seen neither below 90% in the past month.

And, yes, our local Tractor Supply Co is out of Ivermectin. Why do you ask?


I think it's obvious that the people are not getting enough Ivermectin and that's why so many are having to go to the hospital.
 
2021-09-16 6:17:26 AM  

bostonguy: Can Biden issue an executive order allowing hospitals to refuse patients who have refused to get vaccinated?

(I doubt such a bill would pass the Senate.)


I know its fun but you know he can't.
 
2021-09-16 6:22:34 AM  
Just turn away all unvaccinated patients who actively chose not to vaccinate. Problem solved.
 
2021-09-16 6:23:30 AM  
FTA:  "particularly in the South"

There's a surprise.
 
2021-09-16 6:26:46 AM  
GOP: Fellow patriots, do not wear masks, mingle freely, and do not get the COVID vaccine. This is a plan-demic created by Sleepy Joe and Fake News Fauci to frighten the sheeple into surrendering our freedoms, and justify their radical legislative agenda.

Also GOP: Sleepy Joe's incompetent management of COVID is a disaster. He politicized it and therefore is personally responsible for all of the death, suffering, grief, and economic losses. IMPEACH

This is guaranteed to be a talking point prior to the 2022 midterms
 
2021-09-16 6:29:44 AM  
Not around here, it's not.  Still plenty of ICU beds.  Amazing what vaccinations and masks in schools can do.
 
2021-09-16 6:32:36 AM  
I wonder what the financial impact will be once all these hospital bills become due?  That's going to be a second tragedy.
 
2021-09-16 6:32:46 AM  

Tallman: My local hospital system (Lee Health, in Florida) has been putting out press releases via Facebook daily with a Covid census, number of admissions, discharges (and deaths), and percentage of operating capacity available.

As of yesterday, we have 96% of our ICU beds filled in the county, and 95% of our hospital beds. That's not atypical; I've seen ICU's as full as 98% (we have 50 ICU beds, apparently), and normal beds up to 101%. I've seen neither below 90% in the past month.


You realize the anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, and covid-deniers don't give a shiat what those press releases say, don't you?
 
2021-09-16 6:33:54 AM  
When do we come to the point that we begin triaging the unvaccinated behind the vaccinated, the ivermectin ingested behind the appendicitis?

I feel like we're past that point, but common sense hasn't kicked in. Put them in some big tents outside the hospital and give them palliative care. Let the media cameras in, send the message, "no shot, no service."
 
2021-09-16 6:34:47 AM  

sleze: Not around here, it's not.  Still plenty of ICU beds.  Amazing what vaccinations and masks in schools can do.


Jersey?

I mean, we're doing ok where I am.

If you're vaccine eligible and not vaccinated, at this point the hospital should just turn you away. Go to church if you want to have "beliefs".
 
2021-09-16 6:35:01 AM  

Blahbbs: I wonder what the financial impact will be once all these hospital bills become due?  That's going to be a second tragedy.


More houses for real estate investors to buy and hold.
 
2021-09-16 6:44:12 AM  

bostonguy: Can Biden issue an executive order allowing hospitals to refuse patients who have refused to get vaccinated?

(I doubt such a bill would pass the Senate.)


No, however he could issue an order prioritizing vaccinated patients for respirators or blood oxygen machines since they have a much higher probability of surviving these treatments.
Anyone who is sick with ivermectin and unvaxxed has a much lower probability of surviving severe covid infection and should be placed into an available bed to die if the ICUs are full.
I believe the federal.govermment is paying most of the cost of the stupid.  If states don't like it they can go without any further covid relief, and even claw back any unspent funds (like rent relief money Abbott and DeSantis are sitting on).
 
2021-09-16 6:50:36 AM  

Sabreace22: When do we come to the point that we begin triaging the unvaccinated behind the vaccinated, the ivermectin ingested behind the appendicitis?

I feel like we're past that point, but common sense hasn't kicked in. Put them in some big tents outside the hospital and give them palliative care. Let the media cameras in, send the message, "no shot, no service."


In an emergent situation there s no way to verify vaccine or no vaccine.  You treat everyone as can be treated.
 
2021-09-16 6:51:51 AM  
FTFA:With highly effective vaccines freely available, nearly all of the current deaths are preventable.

"Optional" would be a better word than "preventable".
 
2021-09-16 6:52:02 AM  

MrBallou: My state today. Things ain't getting better.

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Fu£k each and every goddamn Republican that cynically made this a political issue. You've killed thousands of people, you soulless bastards.


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The Free State is as good as it gets right now.... except for Connecticut.

/Which I don't think is real anyway.
 
2021-09-16 6:58:52 AM  
Just a precursor as we head into Fall and Winter.

Year over Year looks like a farking nightmare scenario.
 
2021-09-16 7:01:02 AM  
NC's rates have finally begun the decline, but unfortunately for other states, our numbers went up early in July, so we aren't a good indicator for those who spiked in early August.

But the curve is much wider than last time, and with a linear decline, we're still looking at a reasonable hospitalization rate by mid October. Which gives clinical staff about a month to catch their breath or quit their job before the Thanksgiving/Christmas special.
 
2021-09-16 7:05:55 AM  

BafflerMeal: Sabreace22: When do we come to the point that we begin triaging the unvaccinated behind the vaccinated, the ivermectin ingested behind the appendicitis?

I feel like we're past that point, but common sense hasn't kicked in. Put them in some big tents outside the hospital and give them palliative care. Let the media cameras in, send the message, "no shot, no service."

In an emergent situation there s no way to verify vaccine or no vaccine.  You treat everyone as can be treated.


Check for 5G reception?

/ducks and runs
 
2021-09-16 7:07:21 AM  

NathanAllen: Just a precursor as we head into Fall and Winter.

Year over Year looks like a farking nightmare scenario.


I'm glad my clot-induced ER visit was last year and not this year.  The ICU here is at capacity, and I'm in a blue city in a red state surrounded by, well, red state people.
 
2021-09-16 7:11:02 AM  
It's important not to think of delta as a nationwide "wave".  All waves and overcapacity is regional- mostly to states but also to parts of states.  Delta has a lot of unvaxxed Midwestern and Northeastern citizens left to burn through.  It already got most everyone it could get in Louisiana and Arkansas.

The NY Times 14 day trend is a good guide.   Look out, Ohio.
 
2021-09-16 7:20:26 AM  
Ohio is farked.
 
2021-09-16 7:28:34 AM  

Rapmaster2000: It's important not to think of delta as a nationwide "wave".  All waves and overcapacity is regional- mostly to states but also to parts of states.  Delta has a lot of unvaxxed Midwestern and Northeastern citizens left to burn through.  It already got most everyone it could get in Louisiana and Arkansas.

The NY Times 14 day trend is a good guide.   Look out, Ohio.


That last map in the Times article does a fairly decent job of showing that the current breakout is pounding a lot of rural areas.

Which means HURR DURR ANTIVAX may just be an incomplete picture. Somebody who's homebound and rural (which adds up to probably poor) is going to have a hell of a time getting the shot, even assuming they're informed enough to know they should want it.

The virus may get to those households  before the traveling needle-nurse can.
 
2021-09-16 7:30:50 AM  

Izunbacol: The Free State is as good as it gets right now.... except for Connecticut.


Greetings from Tolland County, CT, the lowest of the low in the State despite being just outside of Hartford AND having UConn in the center.

Hospitalizations dropped another 10 yesterday state-wide.  Our county has 0.  Fairfield, Hartford and New Haven counties account for 82% of the 328 currently in beds State-wide.

For anyone wanting the full details, the weekly in-depth report comes out late Thursday afternoons and can be found at https://portal.ct.gov/coronavirus/​covi​d-19-data-tracker and https://data.ct.gov/Health-and-Hu​man-S​ervices/COVID-19-DPH-Reports-Library/b​qve-e8um
 
2021-09-16 7:32:13 AM  

bostonguy: Can Biden issue an executive order allowing hospitals to refuse patients who have refused to get vaccinated?

(I doubt such a bill would pass the Senate.)


In Texas. Providers have the right to deny care based on sexual orientation, so if you think not being vaccinated is gay then you're in the clear to not treat.
 
2021-09-16 7:33:08 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Look out, Ohio.


Yesterday, a Level I trauma center in SW Ohio informed surgeons on staff that non-emergent/urgent cases will be reviewed and prioritized. If your case indication doesn't pass review, you can't schedule it until at least November.

The reviews begin today. I expect a great deal of butthurt.
 
2021-09-16 7:36:51 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Are hospitals and health insurance companies missing out on record profits this year? If not the system is working exactly as designed.


My friend works for a health insurance company and apparently they are making record profits from not paying out for anything routine that people are putting off (or that hospitals can't do).
 
2021-09-16 7:37:41 AM  

Izunbacol: MrBallou: My state today. Things ain't getting better.

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Fu£k each and every goddamn Republican that cynically made this a political issue. You've killed thousands of people, you soulless bastards.

[Fark user image 850x536]The Free State is as good as it gets right now.... except for Connecticut.

/Which I don't think is real anyway.


A conspiracy of cartographers, you say?
 
2021-09-16 7:37:53 AM  
I found out my half-sister's mom caught COVID, and is in the ICU on a ventilator.  I asked dad if she was vaccinated.  Nope.  There's one of WakeMed's ICU beds taken up.

Funny thing is, my dad is one of the few people she was still on speaking terms with.  She has some stupid feud with one of her sisters.  My sister hasn't spoken to her in several years, either.  Her oldest granddaughter/my oldest niece is likely the only one who will give a shiat.

I got super lucky that my parents have taken this very seriously since day one, have been more vigilant than I have about social distancing and wearing masks and got their vaccines in February.  Extended family on both sides have now paid a price for not taking it seriously.
 
2021-09-16 7:38:59 AM  

Gulper Eel: Somebody who's homebound and rural (which adds up to probably poor) is going to have a hell of a time getting the shot, even assuming they're informed enough to know they should want it.


My CT hometown was the first in the country to have a mobile vaccination setup, all the way back in January.  They focused on the homebound, homeless, migrant farm workers and others who would not otherwise be able to easily get a shot.  They then moved on to going to major service businesses in town and running clinics for their entire staff all at once.  We're talking places like restaurants, dry cleaners, etc.   They even went to churches.

"Vernon officials have started taking its vaccination efforts on the road with a mobile vaccination unit. The trailer, accompanied by several volunteers, made its first visit Thursday at Rockville's St. Bernard Church.  Inside their church's basement, several members of the Blessed Sacrament Parish gathered, not for worship but for vaccination.

"I think it's great. I didn't expect it," said 81-year-old Guy Brennan of Rockville. "I thought I was going to have to go to East Hartford or somewhere else,"

"We are breaking down barriers, making getting a vaccine as convenient as possible," said Vernon's Director of Emergency Management Michael Purcaro.

"We've heard loud and clear from the community, particularly the most vulnerable, that they're struggling trying to schedule themselves for the vaccine," said Vernon Police Lieutenant William Meier.

Father Rick Ricard oversees the parish and says distributing vaccines in this familiar environment also provides a sense of comfort.

"Just like many of them have been isolated from the grandchildren, their great grandchildren, they've been isolated from their church family too," Ricard explained.

The clinic was not limited to church parishioners - it was available all eligible candidates under the state's phase 1b guidelines."


Now, they run weekly clinics where can walk up and pick which jab you want.  It's not limited by any residency, come on to the town green and get your jab.

Oh, and our mayor is a Republican.
 
2021-09-16 7:41:40 AM  

Spawn_of_Cthulhu: AdmirableSnackbar: Are hospitals and health insurance companies missing out on record profits this year? If not the system is working exactly as designed.

My friend works for a health insurance company and apparently they are making record profits from not paying out for anything routine that people are putting off (or that hospitals can't do).


The system works!
 
2021-09-16 7:42:03 AM  

H31N0US: sleze: Not around here, it's not.  Still plenty of ICU beds.  Amazing what vaccinations and masks in schools can do.

Jersey?

I mean, we're doing ok where I am.

If you're vaccine eligible and not vaccinated, at this point the hospital should just turn you away. Go to church if you want to have "beliefs".


How many times is this going to be parroted in this thread?
 
2021-09-16 7:47:32 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: If only there were some kind of preventative medical procedure that could prevent something like this from happening.

If only.


Okay, but vaccination is not a guarantee. My vaxed cousin got COVID from her stubborn-ass unvaxed boyfriend.

Anti-vaxers are actively harming the rest of us.
 
2021-09-16 7:47:34 AM  

Pichu0102: Ohio is farked.


Good.

/vaxxed ohioan who follows mask/distancing protocol
//just watching the plague-rats die off left and right
///trying to avoid medical emergencies until the covid deaths open up some beds
 
2021-09-16 7:49:55 AM  
The only people worse than antivaxers are the similarly selfish farks who think "I'm vaxed, let's open back up again!"
 
2021-09-16 7:51:23 AM  

Blahbbs: I wonder what the financial impact will be once all these hospital bills become due?  That's going to be a second tragedy.


How long until insurance companies dont let the hospitals treat the unvaccinated? How much does 3 weeks of ICU and ventilation before you die cost?
 
2021-09-16 7:52:35 AM  
We don't have a healthcare system.

We have an enormous grift
 
2021-09-16 7:53:37 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: NathanAllen: Just a precursor as we head into Fall and Winter.

Year over Year looks like a farking nightmare scenario.

I'm glad my clot-induced ER visit was last year and not this year.  The ICU here is at capacity, and I'm in a blue city in a red state surrounded by, well, red state people.


I'm in a "blue state" that is actually a blue city and red EVERYTHING else (IL). Im in the "everything else" area. It's getting worse every day. Not just the medical situation but the people. The people!
 
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