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(Salon)   The sedate world of astronomy is fighting over whether or not our solar system has been invaded by an alien craft   (salon.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Solar System, Interstellar medium, Planet, Extrasolar planet, Harvard physicistAvi Loeb, Sun, Extraterrestrial life, Solar wind  
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2021-09-16 5:26:47 AM  
12 votes:
No.  If they were just passing through, they wouldn't get so close to a star and its debris.  If they were going to visit, they would call.  If they were going to observe, we wouldn't see them. If they were going to invade, they would send a few kinetic kill vehicles first.

Next question.
 
2021-09-16 5:59:37 AM  
11 votes:
One professor making the claim is not a debate. Especially when that prof is Avi Loeb.
 
2021-09-16 6:03:11 AM  
8 votes:
From all of the stories I've read, there's only one person (Avi Loeb) who still clings to the idea that it's aliens.

[looks at article]

Yep, it's Loeb.  It's not the astronomy world that's fighting, it's one crackpot scientist who's trying to sell his crackpot book.
 
2021-09-16 4:35:12 AM  
7 votes:
Only idiots would look at something that doesnt fall in the "norm" and instantly say its aliens
 
2021-09-16 7:35:50 AM  
7 votes:

dittybopper: The Crepes of Wrath: From all of the stories I've read, there's only one person (Avi Loeb) who still clings to the idea that it's aliens.

[looks at article]

Yep, it's Loeb.  It's not the astronomy world that's fighting, it's one crackpot scientist who's trying to sell his crackpot book.

You do of course realize that "Avi Loeb" is an anagram of "EVIL BOA", right?


And "dittybopper" is an anagram for "be potty drip". What's your point?
 
2021-09-16 4:15:39 AM  
4 votes:
Well, if it was, we'll know soon enough.

After all.

The Ramans do everything in threes.
 
2021-09-16 4:33:26 AM  
4 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Published September 15, 2021

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Crap.

This is news how?  They've been babbling about this thing being possibly alien since it first came around.
 
2021-09-16 7:13:02 AM  
4 votes:
No it isn't.  If an astronomer tries to tell you Oumuamua was an alien spacecraft, they're selling out their integrity for money.

Oh, and look, this asshole is publishing a pop 'science' book on it.
 
2021-09-16 6:46:17 AM  
3 votes:

BafflerMeal: Morning Horsefarts: No.  If they were just passing through, they wouldn't get so close to a star and its debris.  If they were going to visit, they would call.  If they were going to observe, we wouldn't see them. If they were going to invade, they would send a few kinetic kill vehicles first.

Next question.

Look at the big brain on the *alien expert* here.


On the planet Koozbane, they don't have quarter pounders because of the fleebnorp system.  They're called gwanchvep with cheese.
 
2021-09-16 7:26:38 AM  
3 votes:
Exactly. The entire fake 'controversy' is utter hogwash, there is no controversy, no credible astronomer or scientist of any stripe thinks such a stupid thing.
 
2021-09-16 8:59:25 AM  
2 votes:

Unsung_Hero: No it isn't.  If an astronomer tries to tell you Oumuamua was an alien spacecraft, they're selling out their integrity for money.

Oh, and look, this asshole is publishing a pop 'science' book on it.


That he is selling a book is not evidence of anything unless you are adding Carl Sagan and pretty much any scientist who has written pop science to your list of sellouts.

This guy seems to actually believe what he says. The problem is not that he wrote a book. He'd still be a crank even if he never wrote a book and never gave an interview. Hell thinking that Oumuamua being artificial is a hypothesis worth looking is not really the problem either. No for him it is a more fundamental problem. He does not understand that no matter how good you think an extraordinary hypothesis is, you have nothing until you really can rule out mundane explanations.  When pulsars were first found, that they might be alien beacons came to mind. But they did not conclude it. Instead they rolled up their sleeves and looked for a mundane explanation. Sure enough, it was quickly realized that they were a previously predicted natural phenomenon.
 
2021-09-16 7:59:32 AM  
1 vote:
At this point, they're mostly just arguing about the fact that it isn't.
 
2021-09-16 9:07:52 AM  
1 vote:

TheMysteriousStranger: When pulsars were first found, that they might be alien beacons came to mind. But they did not conclude it. Instead they rolled up their sleeves and looked for a mundane explanation. Sure enough, it was quickly realized that they were a previously predicted natural phenomenon.


Yep, the first discovered was jokingly named "LGM-1" for "little green men."  They soon discarded that idea when a second pulsar was found just a few months later.
 
2021-09-16 9:28:17 AM  
1 vote:
TheMysteriousStranger: That he is selling a book is not evidence of anything unless you are adding Carl Sagan and pretty much any scientist who has written pop science to your list of sellouts.

Not all astronomers with a book to sell are telling you Oumuamua is artificial in origin, but all astronomers telling you Oumuamua is artificial in origin have a book to sell.
 
2021-09-16 9:33:08 AM  
1 vote:
Hmmm...

Where's Betazoid Tal Elbrun when you need him?

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