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4 days ago  
I think it's well past time we put a stop to this practice!

I'm talking about video links. I can't watch them while working...
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
Yes.

Pay people living wages.
 
4 days ago  
We do this every day now.
 
4 days ago  
The only tipping that matters...

HEATHERS - A Date With Kurt and Ram
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4 days ago  
How much do we give to the captain?
 
4 days ago  
I don't know what's so hard to understand about paying the universally-accepted 565% of your bill as gratuity to show you aren't a cheapskate.
 
4 days ago  
Tip Black people more because racists don't tip.
 
4 days ago  

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It's quite gratuitous.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

Weatherkiss: I don't know what's so hard to understand about paying the universally-accepted 565% of your bill as gratuity to show you aren't a cheapskate.


Get a load of the cheapskate over here.  If you cant afford to tip at least 1000%, you shouldn't be eating a restaurant.
 
4 days ago  
yes the tipped wage should be abolished

no you don't get to stiff people until it is
 
4 days ago  

whidbey: Yes.

Pay people living wages.


Oh I dunno. I DoorDash and lyft drive. I make more on tips than the actual running around and I get an "adjusted" pay each week per CA regulations so that I don't earn less than minimum wage as a base. As it is, I hover around 28-30 bucks an hour after factoring in the gas $.
 
4 days ago  
I've been thinking more and more about the book Brave New World, and something really got me.  The elevator guy.  Menial job, just push buttons all day and call out floors.  All day, 9 hours a day.  And he was still paid well, still have leisure time to play outdoor sports and buy stuff and consume and go on dates and have friends, and he had a fulfilling life and was happy with his job.

But look at real life menial jobs.  Minimum wage, can't afford shiat, used junk cars, working three jobs, debt and barely paying bills and checks bouncing and empty bank accounts, can't go on vacations or have fun hobbies.  Why is is that we pay checkout clerks and meat cutters and wait staff so little?  Why not pay them a decent wage, and they'll be happy and stable employees?  If I had no debts, I would be fine with staying at the same job and same position for years, instead of constantly scheming my next pay raise via job hopping.
 
4 days ago  

Weatherkiss: I don't know what's so hard to understand about paying the universally-accepted 565% of your bill as gratuity to show you aren't a cheapskate.


I am really on the fence about tipping you now (over the fence)
 
4 days ago  
"Is tipping outdated?"


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4 days ago  

Joe USer: I think it's well past time we put a stop to this practice!

I'm talking about video links. I can't watch them while working...


Came in to say this. Glad you did it.
How much do you expect for a tip?
 
4 days ago  
PINK FLOYD HAVE A CIGAR
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4 days ago  
I'll stop tipping when the people I tip are paid appropriately for working with a shiatty, self-centered and rude public.
 
4 days ago  

fanbladesaresharp: whidbey: Yes.

Pay people living wages.

Oh I dunno. I DoorDash and lyft drive. I make more on tips than the actual running around and I get an "adjusted" pay each week per CA regulations so that I don't earn less than minimum wage as a base. As it is, I hover around 28-30 bucks an hour after factoring in the gas $.


I do know, though.  If you're "really" making 28-30 bucks an hour, that's what they should be paying you.
 
4 days ago  
Tipping in the USA has a racist history and was used an excuse to pay less than a living wage to newly freed slaves.

Tipping in industries that don't pay starvation hourly wages is also just a way for rich people to buy better service from businesses that don't already have tiered services to accommodate the wealthy.

fark tipping.  It's meant to make us feel grateful by the ruling class or to buy attention away from other customers, and is most often used to let assholes screw hardworking people out a living wage.
 
4 days ago  

NM Volunteer: I've been thinking more and more about the book Brave New World, and something really got me.  The elevator guy.  Menial job, just push buttons all day and call out floors.  All day, 9 hours a day.  And he was still paid well, still have leisure time to play outdoor sports and buy stuff and consume and go on dates and have friends, and he had a fulfilling life and was happy with his job.

But look at real life menial jobs.  Minimum wage, can't afford shiat, used junk cars, working three jobs, debt and barely paying bills and checks bouncing and empty bank accounts, can't go on vacations or have fun hobbies.  Why is is that we pay checkout clerks and meat cutters and wait staff so little?  Why not pay them a decent wage, and they'll be happy and stable employees?  If I had no debts, I would be fine with staying at the same job and same position for years, instead of constantly scheming my next pay raise via job hopping.


Instead of worrying about pay, you could always volunteer your services and live like a monk in New Mexico.
 
4 days ago  

Jeebus Saves: Weatherkiss: I don't know what's so hard to understand about paying the universally-accepted 565% of your bill as gratuity to show you aren't a cheapskate.

Get a load of the cheapskate over here.  If you cant afford to tip at least 1000%, you shouldn't be eating a restaurant.


Why do you hate the working class, arsehole? Tip 3000% or GTFO!
 
4 days ago  
Circumcision thread?
 
4 days ago  
Seeing how almost every restaurant that has tried the no-tip model has gone back to tipping I think there's enough evidence to say that the no-tip model is never going to work in the US and isn't worth arguing about.
 
4 days ago  

wax_on: Seeing how almost every restaurant that has tried the no-tip model has gone back to tipping I think there's enough evidence to say that the no-tip model is never going to work in the US and isn't worth arguing about.


Well that's bullshiat.
 
4 days ago  
Depends, are we requiring restaurant staff to be paid a proper wage yet?
 
4 days ago  

NM Volunteer: I've been thinking more and more about the book Brave New World, and something really got me.  The elevator guy.  Menial job, just push buttons all day and call out floors.  All day, 9 hours a day.  And he was still paid well, still have leisure time to play outdoor sports and buy stuff and consume and go on dates and have friends, and he had a fulfilling life and was happy with his job.

But look at real life menial jobs.  Minimum wage, can't afford shiat, used junk cars, working three jobs, debt and barely paying bills and checks bouncing and empty bank accounts, can't go on vacations or have fun hobbies.  Why is is that we pay checkout clerks and meat cutters and wait staff so little?  Why not pay them a decent wage, and they'll be happy and stable employees?  If I had no debts, I would be fine with staying at the same job and same position for years, instead of constantly scheming my next pay raise via job hopping.


The simple answer to all of your questions is capitalism.
 
4 days ago  
Not this shiat again. Stay home if you don't want to tip.
 
4 days ago  

wax_on: Seeing how almost every restaurant that has tried the no-tip model has gone back to tipping I think there's enough evidence to say that the no-tip model is never going to work in the US and isn't worth arguing about.


I wonder how much a McD, Burger King or TacoBell employee makes in tips....

Its a problem with inertia.  If we paid everyone a living wage and adjusted prices accordingly. the need for tips would go away.  This can't be solved by a handful of sit down restaurants.  It needs to be industry segment wide, like fast food jobs.   Start with Applebees, Chilis, and Texas Roadhouse.  Get fast casual on board with no tipping and you can keep tips at high end or expense account restaurants if you want.
 
4 days ago  
Whenever I tip, I loudly proclaim it whilst waving the money around for all to see. Then I exit the establishment exuding maximum smugitude.
 
4 days ago  

Purple_Urkle: Tip Black people more because racists don't tip.


Unless you're black then tip 10% rounded down to nearest dollar.
 
4 days ago  
I dont tip at the counter.
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4 days ago  

EL EM: Not this shiat again. Stay home if you don't want to tip.


It's not we don't want to tip, I usually give well over the 20%, but the concept is stupid and outdated.

Pay people what they're worth, not some stupid wage and hope they make it up by fleecing the patrons.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

August11: I'll stop tipping when the people I tip are paid appropriately for working with a shiatty, self-centered and rude public.


That's exactly why they will never be paid appropriately for working with a shiatty, self-centered and rude public.  Because the owners know they will get tips.
 
4 days ago  
I only tip because of the slave wages they get. 15%-20% depending on service.

Pay them for God's sake. While your at it, pay the slave labor they have picking and making all the food. While we're at it, why not make people like Bezos pay 90% tax and living wages so we don't end up with the farking French Revolution all over again, in the USA.
 
4 days ago  
I was talking to a friend about a local bartender we like.
We figured that when about 5 or 6 of us ( that I know) stopped going to the bar, she lost about $100/week in tips.
I'm sure that has filled in with new patrons, but the crowd there now is a younger, nurse one beer, close the tab type. The regulars are mostly gone.
Now her income is back up just due to sheer volume instead of a casual after work crowd.
Works harder for the same $$.
 
4 days ago  
Not sure who should be banned, subby or the mods, for letting this tripe through.
 
4 days ago  
Sounds like a good intention, but c'mon, never gonna happen. Get a hundred bucks in cash, no taxes, you think people are gonna wanna give that up.

When is the last time you tipped in cash? fark, when is the last time you PAID in cash?
 
4 days ago  

Odd Bird: Not sure who should be banned, subby or the mods, for letting this tripe through.


I actually enjoy watching the more conservative Farkers show their true colors.

So much for this being a leftist echo chamber.
 
4 days ago  

Tom-Servo: August11: I'll stop tipping when the people I tip are paid appropriately for working with a shiatty, self-centered and rude public.

That's exactly why they will never be paid appropriately for working with a shiatty, self-centered and rude public.  Because the owners know they will get tips.


The flipside is that tips encourage servers to give quality attention to everyone, and if tipping was discouraged, there'd be no earning disparity that drives off bad wait staff and encourages good wait staff to stick around. Wages ought to be raised, but tipping for personal service has other purposes beyond just making up for the cheapness of the employer. It's a way of voting up good workers.
 
4 days ago  

fat_free: Sounds like a good intention, but c'mon, never gonna happen. Get a hundred bucks in cash, no taxes, you think people are gonna wanna give that up.

When is the last time you tipped in cash? fark, when is the last time you PAID in cash?


According to my unscientific, this is my experience so it must be how everyone does it research, I've found that 50% of people still pay with cash.  And even if I plan on paying with a card, I bring cash for a tip.
 
4 days ago  

whidbey: Odd Bird: Not sure who should be banned, subby or the mods, for letting this tripe through.

I actually enjoy watching the more conservative Farkers show their true colors.

So much for this being a leftist echo chamber.


But you block everyone who even mildly disagrees with you. If your version of Fark isn't a total echo chamber, it's because your personal politics are too childish and lacking in nuance to have widespread support in any crowd where the average age exceeds 8 years old.
 
4 days ago  

Chevello: Joe USer: I think it's well past time we put a stop to this practice!

I'm talking about video links. I can't watch them while working...

Came in to say this. Glad you did it.
How much do you expect for a tip?


Just the tip.
 
4 days ago  

berylman: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/hMr3KtYU​CcI]


Thank you. I was searching for a nice Pink Floyd photo. Save me the time.
 
4 days ago  
Related subject: since the pandemic started, when ordering takeout from restaurants where I normally would have eaten in, I have been tipping as if I had eaten in. I figure the staff is ready and willing to offer full service but prevented from doing so under the circumstances.
 
4 days ago  

Jeebus Saves: fat_free: Sounds like a good intention, but c'mon, never gonna happen. Get a hundred bucks in cash, no taxes, you think people are gonna wanna give that up.

When is the last time you tipped in cash? fark, when is the last time you PAID in cash?

According to my unscientific, this is my experience so it must be how everyone does it research, I've found that 50% of people still pay with cash.  And even if I plan on paying with a card, I bring cash for a tip.


So you are saying that in the modern world the 'value" of tips has been reduced by about half, if 50% of the used ot be cash in pocket unreported is now CC tips 100% reported and taxed.
And FYI, the mostly unreported tips were still garnering $0 dollar paychecks for waiters after taxes, well over 20 years ago now. So getting even more reported is going o start resulting in having to pay more taxes at the end of the year when the hourly pay rate can no longer cover the full taxes on the tips.

no joke, over 20 years ago  waiting tables and seeing a fair bit more CC tips then was resulting in many of us going from $80-$100 on paychecks to literally receiving a printed $0 paychecks after CC reported tips are taxed.
 
4 days ago  
Not to mention the costs that have already gone up due to the pandemic, if every restaurant had to pay 15 or more bucks to every employee, eventually mostly the chains would be left.

Food prices would HAVE to go up for small businesses. Many people would understand this and continue supporting, way more people would biatch and eat at Perkins more often.

I own a successful restaurant, I pay really well, I don't profit much because of it. I am luckier than most places to be able to do that.

That being said I tip a farklot more than because I KNOW what it's like to get screwed by this industry because of arrogant farkwads who think they know what it's PROBABLY like and do the ignorant math in their head and conclude that they know best.

I also completely support a situation where tipping goes away and everyone makes a living wags. But that won't happen in America.

This country is so full of shiat. The collective population doesn't admit actual wage issues.  The reason why all the manufacturers are overseas is because they aren't actually held accountable for horrible human rights violations and obvious slavery-through-debt.

If they made your iPhone in America, it would cost ten times as much and no one would buy them except the elite.

If every server got paid 15 bucks an hour, enough people would balk at the price increases and only go to chains didn't have the same issue.

And the living wage argument is ridiculous. Should everyone make a living wage. YES ABSOLUTELY.

Does a federal minimum wage of 15 or more make sense? NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST.

Minimum Wage should be based on Cost of Living. That would get a little tricky in places where everyone that works has to commute in (san fran etc) but I'm not smart enough to solve that.

If 15 dollars was the federal minimum, my family's businesses in Northern Wisconsin, in a town where you can rent a 1 bedroom apartment for 500 bucks a month, and the target demographic is rich assholes from Chicago who treat everyone like shiat and wouldn't pay higher prices for commodities, would all be out of business in a year. No question.

/lifelong service industry worker
//first time commenting one of these god forsaken cesspools of a thread
///huff huff huff huff three slashies huff huff
 
4 days ago  
Remove the service exemption from wage laws.  If you get tips, great.  Technically part of your gross income as far as the IRS is concerned.  Employers should not be allowed to include tips as wages.  Pay the straight wage, price your menu accordingly.  Removing the exemption keeps the playing field level, so all restaurants have to account for the same wage increase - nobody is at a disadvantage, so no biatching allowed.

It really is just as simple as that.

/heavy tipper, because service staff put up with some soul-destroying shiat
//would still tip a bit, because of #1
///just wouldn't be 30%
 
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