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(Times of Israel)   Preliminary Israeli study: Third booster vaccine shots may produce 10x the antibodies of the prior dose. L'chaim   (timesofisrael.com) divider line
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2021-09-15 7:34:53 AM  
Good news on erev Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement starts at sundown today).

"On Rosh Hashanah will be inscribed and on Yom Kippur will be sealed - how many will pass from the earth and how many will be created; who will live and who will die; who will die after a long life and who before his time; who by water and who by fire, who by sword and who by beast, who by famine and who by thirst, who by upheaval and who by plague, who by strangling and who by stoning. Who will rest and who will wander, who will live in harmony and who will be harried, who will enjoy tranquility and who will suffer, who will be impoverished and who will be enriched, who will be degraded and who will be exalted. But Repentance, Prayer, and Charity mitigate the severity of the Decree."

Emphasis added.

/ subby
// easy fast to those who observe
/// shalosh
 
2021-09-15 9:17:18 AM  
Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.
 
2021-09-15 9:19:15 AM  
99.7% is a miracle of God. If you need 10x that to have faith in vaccines, I don't know what to tell you, Thomas.
 
2021-09-15 9:20:44 AM  

gunga galunga: Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.


I thought all republicans were antisemitic
 
2021-09-15 9:24:14 AM  

chitownmike: gunga galunga: Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.

I thought all republicans were antisemitic


They want (need) Israel is exist in order for the end times to happen, per their weird beliefs. They don't care about the Jewish people - just that they occupy the land.
 
2021-09-15 9:24:51 AM  
So I need 5 shots? The two initial and three boosters?
 
2021-09-15 9:27:10 AM  
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2021-09-15 9:28:50 AM  
And by the 5th shot the blood will be so full of antibodies it will cause extra clotting and strokes.
 
2021-09-15 9:38:52 AM  
Coronavirus czar Salman Zarka

I'd ask the boss for a new title.
 
2021-09-15 9:39:50 AM  

big pig peaches: So I need 5 shots? The two initial and three boosters?


No.
 
2021-09-15 9:40:16 AM  

gunga galunga: Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.


No, you see...you're forgetting the principle of "it's ok if you're a Republican."
 
2021-09-15 9:42:24 AM  
I was able to get a Moderna booster shot last month after discussing it with my PCP and oncologist:
First shot --> headache, fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Second shot --> worse headache, worse fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Booster shot ---> felt like I got hit by a bus for two days; sore, red, itchy arm for a week

If anyone is planning on getting a booster, plan on taking a couple sick days afterwards (or get it done on a Friday).

I'm pro-vax, but even I am leery of what side effects to expect from a fourth dose.
 
2021-09-15 9:52:33 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: big pig peaches: So I need 5 shots? The two initial and three boosters?

No.


I was snarking on the poorly worded tag line.
 
2021-09-15 9:54:06 AM  

gunga galunga: Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.


Only the ones who say Isreal shouldn't defend itself against covid.
 
2021-09-15 10:00:46 AM  
1) Increasing the antibody count does not mean more or less immunity, short or long term. It just means you have more antibodies in your blood at that particular time, so this report is lying by omission. To be fair, since they don't actually link the study, but the phrase "preliminary results" implies another goddamn preprint - but only implies.

2) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/​lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02046-​8/fulltext

We are FAR better off mandating vaccination and ensuring shots go into those arms. Unless you are immunocompromised, there is ZERO ACTUAL EVIDENCE that a third vaccine shot will increase your immunity to COVID-19, Delta variant or otherwise. It will temporarily increase antibody counts, but antibodies are the soldiers drafted to fight the war. Actual immunity is the generals and politicians who know when to raise the army.

If you are immunocompromised, then there is evidence that a third shot app 6-9 month after the initial course could help raise your immune system response. The issue here is not that you need more response than a healthy person, it's that you didn't get the response a non-immunocompromised person would and a third shot gets you closer to that.
 
2021-09-15 10:06:58 AM  

StandsWithAFist: I was able to get a Moderna booster shot last month after discussing it with my PCP and oncologist:
First shot --> headache, fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Second shot --> worse headache, worse fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Booster shot ---> felt like I got hit by a bus for two days; sore, red, itchy arm for a week

If anyone is planning on getting a booster, plan on taking a couple sick days afterwards (or get it done on a Friday).

I'm pro-vax, but even I am leery of what side effects to expect from a fourth dose.


My second Moderna shot was pretty rough the next day.  Got the shot on a Friday morning, and started to feel it that night.  Saturday was definitely a day on the couch doing nothing.  Eat, nap, watch mindless television.  It was like having a cold with none of the respiratory symptoms.  Just felt plain awful.  I'm sure the booster will be as bad, if not a bit worse.

Nice to know I had the solid immune reaction, though.
 
2021-09-15 10:27:41 AM  
What's it do for midi-chlorian levels?
 
2021-09-15 10:31:19 AM  
gimme
 
2021-09-15 10:31:51 AM  

big pig peaches: gunga galunga: Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.

Only the ones who say Isreal shouldn't defend itself against covid.


Go find the politics tab and do your 2 minute hate there.
 
2021-09-15 10:39:37 AM  
"The second study suggested that, among Scottish households with a fully vaccinated healthcare worker, COVID infection risk dropped 54% for the other households members compared with households whose healthcare workers remained unvaccinated."

Of course you have to control for the fact that healthcare workers with at least half a brain will tend to observe other precautions with their other household members.
 
2021-09-15 11:18:14 AM  
Now the question is .... is more always better? I am definitely not an immunologist, but common sense suggests there should be at least a dimishing return; at some point you have enough antibodies to kill an infection fast enough and adding more makes little difference.

I have no idea if 10x the antibodies would be a good thing, a bad thing, or just a waste of resources.
 
2021-09-15 11:54:23 AM  

jjorsett: big pig peaches: gunga galunga: Since this study was done by Israel, I hereby declare that any Republican who disputes its findings is by their own logic an anti-semite.

Only the ones who say Isreal shouldn't defend itself against covid.

Go find the politics tab and do your 2 minute hate there.


I'm not the one who brought it up.

And that was a solid 15 seconds at best.
 
2021-09-15 12:29:02 PM  

StandsWithAFist: I was able to get a Moderna booster shot last month after discussing it with my PCP and oncologist:
First shot --> headache, fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Second shot --> worse headache, worse fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Booster shot ---> felt like I got hit by a bus for two days; sore, red, itchy arm for a week

If anyone is planning on getting a booster, plan on taking a couple sick days afterwards (or get it done on a Friday).

I'm pro-vax, but even I am leery of what side effects to expect from a fourth dose.


It depends for everyone. Some people the 1st shot knocked them on their butts and 2nd was fine. Some the other way around. Some were fine or just with a sore arm and some minor fatigue after 1 or 2. I have heard people with no real reaction. Some people had both shots destroy them. Of the people I know who have gotten boosters, none were Moderna since Pfizer was the 1st to come out and it has far more breakthrough cases and its efficacy fades sooner than Moderna.

For me, the 1st shot of Moderna my arm was a little sore for a day and a half. 2nd shot I basically felt like I had the flu for a solid 2 and a half days and it just went away. During those 2.5 days of misery, there was nothing that gave me any sort of reprieve. Headache, nausea, fever, chills, fatigue, muscle cramps.

I expect people to be far more hesitant for the booster if they:

- experienced adverse symptoms after the shot(s)
- have not gotten COVID as a result
- have gotten COVID while vaccinated and experienced very minor symptoms

I will be getting my 3rd shot of Moderna around December.
 
2021-09-15 12:36:25 PM  
Devin Nunes is working on his own vaccine, anticipating the MOO variant may bypass all the delta variant safeguards built in to the current 2 plus booster (just three of the same on a schedule) practice.

While there will be no testing of the Nunes version, it will be as annoying as a car burglar alarm that goes off at 12:55 am and doesn't stop until 6:20 am, inciting wild and random gun fire to turn off the sound.
 
2021-09-15 1:20:40 PM  

iheartscotch: [Fark user image 425x530]


NO no no...I'm sorry that's way to big.  All that's going to do is cause pain and misery.

I want a smaller needle for my shot.
 
2021-09-15 1:21:33 PM  

StandsWithAFist: I was able to get a Moderna booster shot last month after discussing it with my PCP and oncologist:
First shot --> headache, fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Second shot --> worse headache, worse fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Booster shot ---> felt like I got hit by a bus for two days; sore, red, itchy arm for a week

If anyone is planning on getting a booster, plan on taking a couple sick days afterwards (or get it done on a Friday).

I'm pro-vax, but even I am leery of what side effects to expect from a fourth dose.


I got a 3rd Pfizer...just like the 2nd...fatigued and sore arm.  No biggie.
 
2021-09-15 1:58:00 PM  
Moderna hasn't been authorized for a booster yet and even if they are, I'd rather wait for their multi-variant booster.  In any case, I won't be eligible until December.
 
2021-09-15 2:55:13 PM  

StandsWithAFist: I was able to get a Moderna booster shot last month after discussing it with my PCP and oncologist:
First shot --> headache, fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Second shot --> worse headache, worse fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Booster shot ---> felt like I got hit by a bus for two days; sore, red, itchy arm for a week

If anyone is planning on getting a booster, plan on taking a couple sick days afterwards (or get it done on a Friday).

I'm pro-vax, but even I am leery of what side effects to expect from a fourth dose.


You got 3 shots in a month?
 
2021-09-15 2:56:15 PM  

woodjf: StandsWithAFist: I was able to get a Moderna booster shot last month after discussing it with my PCP and oncologist:
First shot --> headache, fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Second shot --> worse headache, worse fatigue for two days; sore arm for a few days
Booster shot ---> felt like I got hit by a bus for two days; sore, red, itchy arm for a week

If anyone is planning on getting a booster, plan on taking a couple sick days afterwards (or get it done on a Friday).

I'm pro-vax, but even I am leery of what side effects to expect from a fourth dose.

You got 3 shots in a month?


Never mind I read that wrong haha
 
2021-09-15 9:07:15 PM  

iheartscotch: [Fark user image 425x530]


I can see why you might.
 
2021-09-15 9:08:03 PM  
10 x the immune response. Give me some of that unless it drives your immune system to attack itself or the patient.
 
2021-09-15 9:08:35 PM  

iheartscotch: [Fark user image 425x530]


Baby got Back. And I'm going back to give you voteys.
 
2021-09-15 9:16:06 PM  
1st Moderna shot - absolutely nothing
2nd Moderna shot - felt like grim death, had to have a relative come over and take care of me.  Could barely move, fever well into the 103's.  Was just about to head to the ER when things started to improve.
And yeah, more antibodies are not always better, Especially if you have an overly active immune system like I do.  My doctor said not to get a 3rd booster anytime soon.  If the time comes, I'll do it, but I'm not looking forward to it.
 
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