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2021-09-15 12:41:22 AM  
Only one thing to do now: recall again! And THIS time, we'll get it right because we only need to win once and when we do, we'll just rewrite the rules so we ALWAYS win!

Beats having policies that makes Americans' lives better amirite?
 
2021-09-15 12:41:28 AM  

Enigmamf: I don't think the strategy was actually "undermine the legitimacy" of the winner. I think if that were the goal, they would have said "pick any democrat" or something like that, to lower the vote percentage of whoever wins.

I think the goal was simply to overcome the risk of the paralysis of choice. It is a well-recognized phenomenon that the more options a person has, the more likely they are to do nothing at all. By saying "Leave part 2 blank", that problem is circumvented - and I bet that helped with Democratic turnout, and helped to win the only question that actually matters.


I'll buy that. High-risk, high-reward gamble made at the time when the recall was deemed an exercise for crankery and shiatfarkery.

ExYank: Your analysis is sound but misses some important considerations. When Davis was recalled, the Democrats promoted a backup as you suggest. What happened was this made it reasonable to vote to recall if you liked the backup guy. Thus the recall succeeded and Arnold won in the clown car race.

Politics is hard. California politics is blood sport at the nicest of times.


And that. Davis ("Voters no likey because they hadn't figured out that the power failures were more due to Enron's farkery than CALISO's attempts to deal with it") and Lt. Gov. Bustamante ("Literally who?") vs The Governator ("Hey, everyone knows who he is and he's not completely insane") led to the Governator winning.

Perhaps Newsom was fighting the last war. But better. In the sense that Newsom ("Voters meh about him") and Leave It Blank vs Larry ("Literally Who Unless You Listen To Talk Radio") Elder had better odds than Davis did. (And in the sense that Republicans blindly presumed that enough people weren't paying attention and Elder would take the plurality of the votes in the event that the first question passed.) A low-risk, high-reward strategy on the part of the California Republicans. Didn't work, but didn't really cost them anything.

/inb4thelock
//LPNOPE!
 
2021-09-15 12:41:35 AM  
News Flash!  Nobody that does not live in California gives a flying.
 
2021-09-15 12:42:29 AM  
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2021-09-15 12:42:52 AM  
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2021-09-15 12:43:00 AM  

skinink: Sanguine Dawn: I know a guy who did phone-banking for Newsom. And he farking hates Newsom. That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

As a minority, I'm a little ashamed and embarrassed that Larry Elder ran on the platform he had, and as a Republican. I'm glad he lost, despite me knowing the many flaws that Newsom has. The Republicans seems to want to run the worst candidates, then cry voter fraud when they lose.

Which is why I'd bet that in 2024, the Republican Presidential nominee will be someone shiatty, like DeSantis. Then when he loses, the GOP will scream that the vote was rigged against them.


Yes. Disinformation is THE core plank of the Repubs now. DeSantis is good at it and in a swing state.
 
2021-09-15 12:43:19 AM  
Seems kind of dumb to tell people to vote no and skip the replacement question.  Should have told them to vote no and pick a specific person for the replacement question.  That way if it did go through, you'd have a good chance at picking the office back up anyway, and if it didn't go through you could humiliate them further by not only beating them at the recall, but also in the replacement.
 
TWX
2021-09-15 12:43:33 AM  

johnny queso: Trocadero: suid: maxandgrinch: Damn, I was hoping out of the 50+ candidates who tossed their name in the mud slinger and we'd get some random Colorado pot enthusiast or an Olympic medal winner....

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Oh, I see you missed "Angelyne" who goes by just one name.

I honest to God wish I had voted for Angelyne, just to tell everyone I did. My grandad (RIP) claims he voted for Gary Coleman (RIP).

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angelyne simulpost.

this is me parked next to her at the point dume pavilions last week the day after i didn't vote for her.


That's a mustang though, not a corvette.
 
2021-09-15 12:43:43 AM  

Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..


I'm already seeing calls for an audit from republicans.
 
2021-09-15 12:44:28 AM  

Twilight Farkle: And that. Davis ("Voters no likey because they hadn't figured out that the power failures were more due to Enron's farkery than CALISO's attempts to deal with it") and Lt. Gov. Bustamante ("Literally who?") vs The Governator ("Hey, everyone knows who he is and he's not completely insane") led to the Governator winning.


When he left office, the Governator had a lower approval rating than Gray Davis did right before the recall.
 
2021-09-15 12:44:59 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: I'm so happy to be wrong on my predictions for this.


Me too cuz your predictions are that we are all gonna die with a baseball bat in our asses with our hair on fire. TOMORROW!
 
2021-09-15 12:45:00 AM  

Lochsteppe: I haven't lived in CA since before I could vote, but I'm relieved.
Good job, Californians.
Now do something about all those sharknados.


We did. We sent them to the Gulf. They just leveled Jersy.
 
2021-09-15 12:45:24 AM  

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2021-09-15 12:45:48 AM  

anfrind: Skeleton Man: Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..

Maybe there was election fraud. I find it hard to believe that 33% of Californians are death cultists. But I've never been there myself, so.

The rural parts of the state tend to be just as red as any red state, especially the far north and the Central Valley.

In fact, if you drive down any major highway in the Central Valley, you'll likely see several "Congress created dust bowl" signs, arguing that the California drought is a hoax intended to put hardworking farmers out of business so that they'll have to go on welfare and become Democrats.


There is at least some basis to their claims - they argue that less water should be set aside for wildlife / fish preservation in the delta. In dry years currently, environmental uses (species protection and salinity standards) are allocated about 60% of delta inflows.
 
2021-09-15 12:45:59 AM  
Thank god
 
2021-09-15 12:46:26 AM  

Realms of the Colon: Alien Robot: Sanguine Dawn: That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

Campaigning while black. How dare he.

I'm so sorry that Democrats didn't feed into your projection that a black man's mere interest in becoming governor, no matter how detestable, would automatically earn liberal support.


Reminds me of a famous quote by Thurgood Marshall, first African-American Supreme Court Justice: "A black snake can bite you just as bad as a white snake"
 
2021-09-15 12:46:47 AM  

jst3p: anfrind: Skeleton Man: Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..

Maybe there was election fraud. I find it hard to believe that 33% of Californians are death cultists. But I've never been there myself, so.


The rural parts of the state tend to be just as red as any red state, especially the far north and the Central Valley.

Two hours outside of any major city is Alabama, this is true no matter what state it is.


Yup same goes for (s)lower Delware. Most of the people in the rural areas down there are trump/pence/witzke loonies.
 
2021-09-15 12:47:19 AM  
As others have pointed out, colossal waste of money.
And Newsome is probably going to clobber whomever runs against him next year.
And then there will be another recall.
 
2021-09-15 12:47:19 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..

They started before the election


Like he actually had a shot to begin with. This was just a massive ad and commercial for his 'talk show'
 
2021-09-15 12:48:06 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: News Flash!  Nobody that does not live in California gives a flying.


News Flash. The entire country cares and you are an idiot.
 
2021-09-15 12:48:12 AM  

TWX: mofa: As a Californian, I'm beginning to unclench. Fortunately, Larry Elder was the front-running Republican, and many people in California HATE HIM. I'm pretty sure he helped suppress Republican recall votes.

Weird; our one state is 12% of the United States population, and Caitlin Jenner probably came in like fifth place.

Your state needs to divide itself into three states, one centered around SF, one centered around LA, and one centered around SD.

That way 12 percent of the population ends up with at least 12% of the senators, instead of 4% like right now.


But that's not the plan the conservaturds keep pushing. They want to keep the 3 cities in one state. Then create 2 new red states with all the other areas. Like they did years ago by creating South Dakota to create a new red state.
 
2021-09-15 12:48:52 AM  

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Popehat rocks ass.
 
2021-09-15 12:49:14 AM  

Vitamin_R: TheJoe03: Skeleton Man: Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..

Maybe there was election fraud. I find it hard to believe that 33% of Californians are death cultists. But I've never been there myself, so.

The entire central valley outside of like Sacramento is a depressing shiat show. Drive on 5 between the Bay and LA and you get to see it for yourself. Awful drive and all the towns are hick central.

If you want to see a real shiat show, drive down the 99 from Sacramento to Bakersfield. Yes, I live in a blue state, yet I am surrounded and outnumbered by MAGAT pieces of shiat.


I never wish to be around Stockton ever so I'll pass, stay strong though man.
 
2021-09-15 12:50:12 AM  

BeautifulOnes: Lyger: What an absolute farking waste of $300 million.

Yep.  Newsom is up for re-election next year, which would have meant that come spring in a few months, the CA GOP could have gone on the offense.  Newsom is not reviled across the board the way Grey Davis was, but he's no Jerry Brown, either.  He could have been vulnerable to the right attack.  Maybe not successful, since most CAs are Dems, but still.  The right GOP candidate could have been a contender.

Now what?  This recall was a lopsided victory for Newsom.  The CA GOP have practically handed him next year's campaign commercials.  They're now identified as a Trump party because of their embrace of that chucklehead Elder, instead of someone more mainstream CA GOP like Faulconer.  In a diverse state like CA, why would they do something like that?


You know, morons.
 
2021-09-15 12:51:01 AM  

Alien Robot: Sanguine Dawn: That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

Campaigning while black. How dare he.


Arsehole dickhead tRumplickers come in all colors. Just ask Kanye West or Steve Harvey.
 
2021-09-15 12:51:13 AM  

Sanguine Dawn: I know a guy who did phone-banking for Newsom. And he farking hates Newsom. That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.


I saw a clip where Elder said that slave owners should be getting reparations for losing their slaves, because they were property. I do not get why people of color are catering to people that want to opress them.
 
2021-09-15 12:51:13 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: News Flash!  Nobody that does not live in California gives a flying.


You're stupid if you actually think that.
 
2021-09-15 12:52:02 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: News Flash!  Nobody that does not live in California gives a flying.


Don't worry, you'll move here soon just like all of the other out-of-state desperate job seekers.

/ Not to mention we have like 1/10th of the whole US population.
 
2021-09-15 12:52:13 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Republicans rejoice in forcing the state to waste nearly $300 million.


Conservatives. They call themselves conservatives.

/that's the joke
 
2021-09-15 12:52:21 AM  
Recalling a governor never works, just ask Wisconsin.
 
TWX
2021-09-15 12:52:24 AM  

FarkingChas: TWX: mofa: As a Californian, I'm beginning to unclench. Fortunately, Larry Elder was the front-running Republican, and many people in California HATE HIM. I'm pretty sure he helped suppress Republican recall votes.

Weird; our one state is 12% of the United States population, and Caitlin Jenner probably came in like fifth place.

Your state needs to divide itself into three states, one centered around SF, one centered around LA, and one centered around SD.

That way 12 percent of the population ends up with at least 12% of the senators, instead of 4% like right now.

But that's not the plan the conservaturds keep pushing. They want to keep the 3 cities in one state. Then create 2 new red states with all the other areas. Like they did years ago by creating South Dakota to create a new red state.


Well aware of that.

I'd still like to see it done this way though, because when it comes to why states should be divided, it should be based on fixing problems with proportional representation due to extremely uneven population counts.
 
2021-09-15 12:52:39 AM  

Mrtraveler01: The recall probably would have had a chance if the GOP ran someone who was more moderate like Schwarzenegger.

Instead they went the Trump route and backed some hack talk show host.


The governator was elected by recall in 2003.  This time he's remained rigidly neutral endorsing neither side. He's pointed out the issues that led to the attempt but flat out refuses to claim the governor cannot handle them or say someone else can do it better.

Also, on one of the main issues, COVID response, he has been very vocal in saying across all media platforms that refusing to follow federal guidelines "makes you a schmuck" and "screw your freedoms" when it comes to masks and vaccines. He trusts experts and expects everyone else to do so as well.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oRdP​3​SYjgM will take you to him saying those things but google him and "COVID" and there is tons of content using those words.
 
2021-09-15 12:52:55 AM  

maxandgrinch: Damn, I was hoping out of the 50+ candidates who tossed their name in the mud slinger and we'd get some random Colorado pot enthusiast or an Olympic medal winner....

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Caitlyn Jenner never competed in the Olympics, that was Bruce Jenner. You know, her 'dead' name.
 
2021-09-15 12:53:41 AM  

browneye: Realms of the Colon: Alien Robot: Sanguine Dawn: That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

Campaigning while black. How dare he.

I'm so sorry that Democrats didn't feed into your projection that a black man's mere interest in becoming governor, no matter how detestable, would automatically earn liberal support.

Reminds me of a famous quote by Thurgood Marshall, first African-American Supreme Court Justice: "A black snake can bite you just as bad as a white snake"


HERE I GO AGAIN
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TWX
2021-09-15 12:53:45 AM  

demonfaerie: Sanguine Dawn: I know a guy who did phone-banking for Newsom. And he farking hates Newsom. That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

I saw a clip where Elder said that slave owners should be getting reparations for losing their slaves, because they were property. I do not get why people of color are catering to people that want to opress them.


There's money to be made in being the one in public denial.
 
2021-09-15 12:54:22 AM  

GardenWeasel: make me some tea: SacBee on Facebook threads have been mobbed by MAGA commenters all day.

Now? *tumbleweeds?

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The media needs to make clear that "Noone" was the leading answer to #2 because Dems were instructed to leave that question blank.


Noone? Peter? From the 'Herman' Hermits?
 
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2021-09-15 12:54:34 AM  

Enigmamf: There is at least some basis to their claims - they argue that less water should be set aside for wildlife / fish preservation in the delta. In dry years currently, environmental uses (species protection and salinity standards) are allocated about 60% of delta inflows.


Arguments like that are typically made by conservidumbs in the south valley. The southern Central Valley doesn't even empty into the ocean most years -- there is NO water available to save and store in the southern valley.

Also the notion that salinity issues are an "environmental use" is misguided. The SF Bay estuary's existence provides a nursery for many commercially fished species. Cut the water flows and the fisheries will die.  Also the bay will die and stink up the air of a major population center.

In any case, the water belongs to everyone -- not just some get-rich-quick farmers who feel entitled to a natural resource they have no water rights for. It's not just for them to decide how it should be used.
 
2021-09-15 12:54:49 AM  
Riverside is going to burn tonight
 
2021-09-15 12:55:10 AM  

Alien Robot: Sanguine Dawn: That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

Campaigning while black. How dare he.



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Campaigning while:
* racist - yes, racist
* "slave owners need to be compensated for the property that was taken from them"
* covid is a myth
* climate change is a myth
* women can't be trusted with: their own bodies, holding a job, voting
 
2021-09-15 12:55:23 AM  

Skeleton Man: Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..

Maybe there was election fraud. I find it hard to believe that 33% of Californians are death cultists. But I've never been there myself, so.


Oh we got them. Fortunately they're a bit outnumbered.
 
2021-09-15 12:56:15 AM  

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Thank fark.

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2021-09-15 12:56:23 AM  

jvl: kelderiv: Claiming election fraud with no evidence needs to be a felony. I'd be ok with it also being considered sedition. There needs to be consequences for lying. Big ones.

You would like to throw out the First Amendment and make lying a crime. Did I understand that correctly? When Trump was in charge of the executive and directing the FBI and US Attorneys, you would have liked it if he would have determined who was lying and charge them with felonies.

Or did you mean just on the state level? Like, you think Alabama's elected officials should be able to determine who is lying and charge them with a felony. You know Juries decide what the facts of the case are, right? So you're okay with an Alabama jury deciding whether or not someone is lying about covid's existence.

I see no flaw in this plan. It's a shame this country has no history with a 'Sedition Act' that does something similar so you could just read about how that kind of thing would work out.


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2021-09-15 12:57:09 AM  

demonfaerie: Recalling a governor never works, just ask Wisconsin.


Western Coloradoans where I live tried to recall Gov. Polis a couple years ago. It turns out being a gay Democrat didn't fetch enough signatures as they wanted it to. Never got the ballot. I had a great time on Facebook with my local MAGAts after that.
 
2021-09-15 12:57:11 AM  

RolandTGunner: Great, now California needs to change their stupid recall rules.


Legislature is getting right on that. Yes really.
 
2021-09-15 12:57:34 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: News Flash!  Nobody that does not live in California gives a flying.


But they care enough to post in a thread about it though.
/witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational state
 
2021-09-15 12:57:35 AM  

Duck_of_Doom: Sergeant Angle: Election fraud claims in 3..2..1..

They already put the webpage up. Yesterday. Amazingly prescient, aren't those losers?

They need to make Election Fraud-scented Desitin, as it's now the conservatives' owie cry after every loss.


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Larry Elder is calling his a victory party. Caitlyn Jenner's is an "election night celebration of the recall of Gavin Newsom." John Cox is just doing a media availability.
- Alexei Koseff (@akoseff) September 14, 2021
 
2021-09-15 12:58:08 AM  

Toxic Park: I did my part and voted against recall on my mail in ballot. I had had a few beers that night and so when I went to sign my ballot my signature was a bit off.

I always wondered if they chucked my ballot for being slightly off my regular signature.


You can check your ballot status here: https://california.ballottrax.n​et/vote​r/
 
2021-09-15 12:58:34 AM  

skybird659: maxandgrinch: Damn, I was hoping out of the 50+ candidates who tossed their name in the mud slinger and we'd get some random Colorado pot enthusiast or an Olympic medal winner....

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Caitlyn Jenner never competed in the Olympics, that was Bruce Jenner. You know, her 'dead' name.


Are they not the same person, just more in line with who she is? Or is the medal revoked because first names don't match?

Do you need to sit and think about what you just posted?
 
2021-09-15 12:58:59 AM  

skinink: Sanguine Dawn: I know a guy who did phone-banking for Newsom. And he farking hates Newsom. That should tell you just how toxic Larry Elder was to Californians.

As a minority, I'm a little ashamed and embarrassed that Larry Elder ran on the platform he had, and as a Republican. I'm glad he lost, despite me knowing the many flaws that Newsom has. The Republicans seems to want to run the worst candidates, then cry voter fraud when they lose.

Which is why I'd bet that in 2024, the Republican Presidential nominee will be someone shiatty, like DeSantis. Then when he loses, the GOP will scream that the vote was rigged against them.


Stolen from another thread...

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2021-09-15 12:59:51 AM  
Like an angel. Standing in a shaft of light.
 
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