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2021-09-14 10:17:42 PM  
Never too late to be a hero. The transcript sounds like Pence was ready to break, and he was giving Dan a hard time.
 
2021-09-14 10:22:56 PM  
JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?
 
2021-09-14 10:29:57 PM  
My Dan Quayle appreciation meter just jumped up 0.0001.
 
2021-09-14 11:24:37 PM  

enry: JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?


Scary, huh?
 
2021-09-15 4:03:33 AM  
This is a good headline.
 
2021-09-15 6:46:31 AM  

puffy999: This is a good headline.


This is a repeat.
 
2021-09-15 6:48:43 AM  

Walker: puffy999: This is a good headline.

This is a repeat.


A tater tot?
 
2021-09-15 6:49:41 AM  
Potatoe may have saved the country helped some Americans believe their country was safe from potato for a few more years

FTFY Subby.
/They're still seizing the reins guys.
//I know we got some sick burns, and dank memes, on Texas for their latest Gilead law, but the law still got put in place. Now you're fighting on trying to overturn it, rather than just not having it at all, and people are going to suffer needlessly in the meantime. That's a win for conservatives.
 
2021-09-15 6:50:48 AM  
... if you understand this reference without looking it up you're old. I understand this reference without looking it up.
 
2021-09-15 6:50:58 AM  
In Dan Quayle's defense, he was considered "stupid" in a different time when a lot higher bar was set for those working in government, especially the Republican Party. In the decades since he was VP, the bar is set a LOT lower. Dan Quayle today in the GOP is probably akin to the character Private Joe Bauers in the movie Idiocracy, where Dan is now one of the most intelligent people in the party. Compared to today's Republicans, Dan Quayle is a freaking genius.
 
2021-09-15 6:51:13 AM  

puffy999: Walker: puffy999: This is a good headline.

This is a repeat.

A tater tot?


No, a tater tote.
 
2021-09-15 6:51:36 AM  
I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.
 
2021-09-15 6:52:12 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: enry: JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?

Scary, huh?


It's like how in a superhero universe the world is always one step away from total destruction, and only the last-minute actions of a handful of unlikely heroes save it on a regular basis.

And you laugh when you think about all of the regular people trying to have regular lives, gritting their teeth, coping with their PTSD, knowing that all it takes is one slip-up by one individual to get the Earth blown up or transported to a hell-dimension or devoured by some alien god, and how unlikely it is that such a place could possibly survive to support an entire franchise.
 
2021-09-15 6:55:42 AM  

Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.


No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.
 
2021-09-15 6:57:03 AM  

Ostman: Potatoe may have saved the country helped some Americans believe their country was safe from potato for a few more years

FTFY Subby.
/They're still seizing the reins guys.
//I know we got some sick burns, and dank memes, on Texas for their latest Gilead law, but the law still got put in place. Now you're fighting on trying to overturn it, rather than just not having it at all, and people are going to suffer needlessly in the meantime. That's a win for conservatives.


Conservatives: Your going to hang, you libs.

Libs:  LOL "you're" #sickburns #losing the culture war #sarcastic clapping
 
2021-09-15 7:06:23 AM  

born_yesterday: Ostman: Potatoe may have saved the country helped some Americans believe their country was safe from potato for a few more years

FTFY Subby.
/They're still seizing the reins guys.
//I know we got some sick burns, and dank memes, on Texas for their latest Gilead law, but the law still got put in place. Now you're fighting on trying to overturn it, rather than just not having it at all, and people are going to suffer needlessly in the meantime. That's a win for conservatives.

Conservatives: Your going to hang, you libs.

Libs:  LOL "you're" #sickburns #losing the culture war #sarcastic clapping


*tears up piece of paper* how dare you
 
2021-09-15 7:06:37 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.

No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.


I suppose the (R) after his name set some baseline expectations.
 
2021-09-15 7:09:42 AM  

Secret Troll Alt: Gyrfalcon: Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.

No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.

I suppose the (R) after his name set some baseline expectations.


I do wonder if there's something about being in the news/political spotlight.

Because that piece of shiat war criminal George Bush shut his mouth for the mostpart after leaving DC and frankly he's never looked better (that would change if he's strung up by the Hague... which sadly won't happen).
 
2021-09-15 7:11:29 AM  
So, Pence would have gladly forfeited the country to make a 'statement.'

Good to know.
 
2021-09-15 7:18:49 AM  

Closed_Minded_Bastage: My Dan Quayle appreciation meter just jumped up 0.0001.


That's a 500 percent increase! He's trending!
 
2021-09-15 7:24:52 AM  
Pence was under great pressure from Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 presidential election results and was considering going along with Trump's request

Holy shiat-fark. Even though he struck me as a mealy-mouthed milquetoast, I figured Pence at least understood what he could and COULD NOT do with regard to his place in validating the election results. But the fact that he came thiiiiiiis close to creating the Mother of All Constitutional Crises boggles me more than I expected.

And Dan Quayle was the Voice of Reason? Jesus Fark...
 
2021-09-15 7:26:04 AM  

Chthonic Echoes: ecmoRandomNumbers: enry: JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?

Scary, huh?

It's like how in a superhero universe the world is always one step away from total destruction, and only the last-minute actions of a handful of unlikely heroes save it on a regular basis.

And you laugh when you think about all of the regular people trying to have regular lives, gritting their teeth, coping with their PTSD, knowing that all it takes is one slip-up by one individual to get the Earth blown up or transported to a hell-dimension or devoured by some alien god, and how unlikely it is that such a place could possibly survive to support an entire franchise.


You say that as if that's not the case in the world today.
 
2021-09-15 7:26:34 AM  

Gestalt: So, Pence would have gladly forfeited the country to make a 'statement.'

Good to know.


Same loser whi went to a football game just so he could walk out of it.
 
2021-09-15 7:32:03 AM  
The state of the Republican party when Dan Quayle is the intelect providing advice and leadership.
 
2021-09-15 7:33:55 AM  

sniderman: Pence was under great pressure from Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 presidential election results and was considering going along with Trump's request

Holy shiat-fark. Even though he struck me as a mealy-mouthed milquetoast, I figured Pence at least understood what he could and COULD NOT do with regard to his place in validating the election results. But the fact that he came thiiiiiiis close to creating the Mother of All Constitutional Crises boggles me more than I expected.

And Dan Quayle was the Voice of Reason? Jesus Fark...


Yeah. I mean I knew Pence was a spineless cuck to Trump, but the narrative before this was Pence acted with some dignity to save the Constitutional process. Now that the truth comes out, with Pence there was no dignity involved, it was more that fate brought us to one of those two correct incidents the broken clock Pence was actually correct that day. If it wasn't Dan Quayle but a Trump "yes man" Pence confided in, we could have had a full blown Constitutional crisis; because Pence is a feckless piece of crap.
 
2021-09-15 7:47:37 AM  
I love how we've become accustomed to this type of story.

It's like, "great news guys, a single mouse managed to stop a children's hospital from being annihilated in an a gas explosion"

Ummm...sure, it's great it didn't blow up, but holy fark, how many farking failures did it take to get to this point?
 
2021-09-15 7:50:20 AM  

puffy999: Secret Troll Alt: Gyrfalcon: Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.

No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.

I suppose the (R) after his name set some baseline expectations.

I do wonder if there's something about being in the news/political spotlight.

Because that piece of shiat war criminal George Bush shut his mouth for the mostpart after leaving DC and frankly he's never looked better (that would change if he's strung up by the Hague... which sadly won't happen).


Typically once a president leaves office you never hear from them again until they are dedicating their presidential library.  Now the news is acting like the last guy is in exile and still giving him a platform.

If they just ignored him like they did the last five guys we'd be better off.  But no, we have to makes public every incoherent statement he makes, what he's doing, keeping him relevant and I have absolutely now idea how that's could come back to bite us in the ass at all.
 
2021-09-15 7:50:26 AM  

WillJM8528: I love how we've become accustomed to this type of story.

It's like, "great news guys, a single mouse managed to stop a children's hospital from being annihilated in an a gas explosion"

Ummm...sure, it's great it didn't blow up, but holy fark, how many farking failures did it take to get to this point?


"Heroic bridge refuses to collapse against all odds."
 
2021-09-15 7:55:03 AM  
I would assume that they talked to Quale and not Pence on this. That's also kind of interesting because it says that he was willing to say "yeah...this is what pence said to me. Crazy isn't it?"
 
2021-09-15 7:56:06 AM  
 
2021-09-15 7:58:32 AM  
Good thing he didn't call Cheney.
 
2021-09-15 8:01:13 AM  
If Quayle's potato gaffe were to happen today, Republicans would argue that potato has always been spelt potatoe; they would deny any evidence to the contrary as a fake, swamp conspiracy. Back then, we all just had a laugh at Quayle and decided he didn't have what it took to continue in politics. What a fall; I blame the internet.
 
2021-09-15 8:02:05 AM  

puffy999: Walker: puffy999: This is a good headline.

This is a repeat.

A tater tot?


More like a twice baked potatoe.
 
2021-09-15 8:02:21 AM  
Even if Pence had decided to pull some type of manouvre  -- you can't get around the fact the 306 Electoral College votes were certified for Biden by the states.

Biden would still have been inaugurated on January 20th, I'm guessing.

Which is all the more reason why January 6th was a violent, useless wank-fest.

Trump wanted a big temperature tantrum on his behalf -- and he got it.
 
2021-09-15 8:02:56 AM  

RasIanI: Even if Pence had decided to pull some type of manouvre  -- you can't get around the fact the 306 Electoral College votes were certified for Biden by the states.

Biden would still have been inaugurated on January 20th, I'm guessing.

Which is all the more reason why January 6th was a violent, useless wank-fest.

Trump wanted a big temperature tantrum on his behalf -- and he got it.


*temper tantrum

...f*** off autocorrect
 
2021-09-15 8:03:37 AM  

enry: JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?


....and General Milley
 
2021-09-15 8:03:38 AM  

hotrod2001: puffy999: Secret Troll Alt: Gyrfalcon: Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.

No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.

I suppose the (R) after his name set some baseline expectations.

I do wonder if there's something about being in the news/political spotlight.

Because that piece of shiat war criminal George Bush shut his mouth for the mostpart after leaving DC and frankly he's never looked better (that would change if he's strung up by the Hague... which sadly won't happen).

Typically once a president leaves office you never hear from them again until they are dedicating their presidential library.  Now the news is acting like the last guy is in exile and still giving him a platform.

If they just ignored him like they did the last five guys we'd be better off.  But no, we have to makes public every incoherent statement he makes, what he's doing, keeping him relevant and I have absolutely now idea how that's could come back to bite us in the ass at all.


*shrugs*
Guess we'll die?
 
2021-09-15 8:04:36 AM  

RasIanI: enry: JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?

....and General Milley


Party in the USA

/Vindman thinks he should be fired or resign by the way
//he's gonna be shilling on Fox News within the week, bet on it
 
2021-09-15 8:08:00 AM  

heavymetal: In Dan Quayle's defense, he was considered "stupid" in a different time when a lot higher bar was set for those working in government, especially the Republican Party. In the decades since he was VP, the bar is set a LOT lower. Dan Quayle today in the GOP is probably akin to the character Private Joe Bauers in the movie Idiocracy, where Dan is now one of the most intelligent people in the party. Compared to today's Republicans, Dan Quayle is a freaking genius.


I had never thought of that.

Damn.
 
2021-09-15 8:08:16 AM  
Remember when he was supposedly the only one in government who was NOT a member of the Trilaterial Commission or the Council of Foreign Affairs?

Well, who's laughing now?
 
2021-09-15 8:08:26 AM  

hotrod2001: puffy999: Secret Troll Alt: Gyrfalcon: Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.

No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.

I suppose the (R) after his name set some baseline expectations.

I do wonder if there's something about being in the news/political spotlight.

Because that piece of shiat war criminal George Bush shut his mouth for the mostpart after leaving DC and frankly he's never looked better (that would change if he's strung up by the Hague... which sadly won't happen).

Typically once a president leaves office you never hear from them again until they are dedicating their presidential library.  Now the news is acting like the last guy is in exile and still giving him a platform.

If they just ignored him like they did the last five guys we'd be better off.  But no, we have to makes public every incoherent statement he makes, what he's doing, keeping him relevant and I have absolutely now idea how that's could come back to bite us in the ass at all.


The previous former presidents believed in democratic norms. In America.

One President at a time.

Obama could have hounded Trump like a badger -- and conservatives would have gone wild about "who the hell does the former president think he is?" - but he kept to himself until the next election cycle.
 
2021-09-15 8:15:48 AM  

hotrod2001: puffy999: Secret Troll Alt: Gyrfalcon: Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.

No one ever said Qayle was unethical. Just not very bright.

I suppose the (R) after his name set some baseline expectations.

I do wonder if there's something about being in the news/political spotlight.

Because that piece of shiat war criminal George Bush shut his mouth for the mostpart after leaving DC and frankly he's never looked better (that would change if he's strung up by the Hague... which sadly won't happen).

Typically once a president leaves office you never hear from them again until they are dedicating their presidential library.  Now the news is acting like the last guy is in exile and still giving him a platform.

If they just ignored him like they did the last five guys we'd be better off. But no, we have to makes public every incoherent statement he makes, what he's doing, keeping him relevant and I have absolutely now idea how that's could come back to bite us in the ass at all.


B...b...but Obama went wind surfing that one time and there were pictures! BSAB obviously
 
2021-09-15 8:26:56 AM  

puffy999: born_yesterday: Ostman: Potatoe may have saved the country helped some Americans believe their country was safe from potato for a few more years

FTFY Subby.
/They're still seizing the reins guys.
//I know we got some sick burns, and dank memes, on Texas for their latest Gilead law, but the law still got put in place. Now you're fighting on trying to overturn it, rather than just not having it at all, and people are going to suffer needlessly in the meantime. That's a win for conservatives.

Conservatives: Your going to hang, you libs.

Libs:  LOL "you're" #sickburns #losing the culture war #sarcastic clapping

*tears up piece of paper* how dare you


Progressives to Libs: You know, now might be a good time for us to form an anti-conservatives coalition and protect the country.

Libs: Not now, Veruca Salt, you never interrupt the enemy when they're making a mistake
 
2021-09-15 8:35:41 AM  

Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.


Quayle didn't have anything to gain. All the people that enabled Trump did. Funny how the second people aren't able to use Trump to help themselves they "turn" on him, aka start telling what happened.

Also the way it's framed is stupid and the conversation should have gone like this. "Mike if you think that by helping him to cheat his way to a win he'll ever endorse you for power you're living up to that Mike Dense nickname."
 
2021-09-15 8:42:56 AM  

enry: JFC our democracy hinged on Dan Quayle?


When Dan Quayle was the smartest man in the room...

I never liked him.  Or either Bush.  Or Cheney.  Or even Reagan for that matter.  But NONE of them, even Cheney, would try to pull the slimy shiat that trump did.  Sure, they may bend the rules, or tatter the edges of the constitution, but to simply tear it into pieces and use it as toilet paper?  Never a real concern.  Oh, I'm sure at the time it felt like that's what they were doing sometimes, but when you see it actually done it really coalesces a difference in political opinion vs. an outright coup attempt.
 
2021-09-15 8:44:23 AM  

Great_Milenko: I never liked him.  Or either Bush.  Or Cheney.  Or even Reagan for that matter.  But NONE of them, even Cheney, would try to pull the slimy shiat that trump did.


You farking serious with this?
 
2021-09-15 8:46:33 AM  

RasIanI: Even if Pence had decided to pull some type of manouvre  -- you can't get around the fact the 306 Electoral College votes were certified for Biden by the states.

Biden would still have been inaugurated on January 20th, I'm guessing.

Which is all the more reason why January 6th was a violent, useless wank-fest.

Trump wanted a big temperature tantrum on his behalf -- and he got it.


I don't think Trump thought Jan 6th would go as well for him as it did. His hesitation was to "see what happened." If they had killed two or three Democratic senators, especially if they were from states that have Republican Governors, and taken a few senators as hostages Trump would have stepped in to make a "deal" that allowed him to continue being president.
 
2021-09-15 8:51:13 AM  

heavymetal: sniderman: Pence was under great pressure from Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 presidential election results and was considering going along with Trump's request

Holy shiat-fark. Even though he struck me as a mealy-mouthed milquetoast, I figured Pence at least understood what he could and COULD NOT do with regard to his place in validating the election results. But the fact that he came thiiiiiiis close to creating the Mother of All Constitutional Crises boggles me more than I expected.

And Dan Quayle was the Voice of Reason? Jesus Fark...

Yeah. I mean I knew Pence was a spineless cuck to Trump, but the narrative before this was Pence acted with some dignity to save the Constitutional process. Now that the truth comes out, with Pence there was no dignity involved, it was more that fate brought us to one of those two correct incidents the broken clock Pence was actually correct that day. If it wasn't Dan Quayle but a Trump "yes man" Pence confided in, we could have had a full blown Constitutional crisis; because Pence is a feckless piece of crap.


Pence, a feckless piece of shiat, gets credit because he could have done these things and didn't.

This was the one time where it was vitally important for Pence to not be a feckless piece of shiat, and the man somehow rose to the occasion and pulled it off.
 
2021-09-15 8:53:53 AM  

Secret Troll Alt: I don't know if seeing how much a piece of shiat Pence is surprises me or not. I guess what really surprises me is that Quayle, a long-time republican, actually did the right thing.


We learned everything we needed to know about uber-Xian Mike Pence when he stayed on the ticket after the Access Hollywood tape surfaced.  Any moral fortitude, any standards, any ethics he had as a man or a man of g*d went straight out the window.  All he wants is to be the man in charge, and he's too much of a limp dick to do what's necessary.  He thought he could ride the coattails of a lunatic and be his anointed successor.  That way he could be in charge of a fiercely loyal army of ideologues without actually having to do, you know, anything.

Much like trump, he wants all of the spoils of power with none of the responsibilities.  He *almost* had a redeeming moment when he headed the Coronavirus task force last spring, but donnie dingle dick saw Pence was getting too much attention and trumped up the whole committee.

The only point I'll concede him is he probably felt some actual fear for his life if he disobeyed trump.  We can only imagine what trump told him in private.  If the mob succeeded, pence knew he was a dead man.  Not politically dead, but forever box dead.

History will probably punt and just cast him as "conflicted" but he's certainly never going to be seen as a hero.
 
2021-09-15 8:54:37 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Great_Milenko: I never liked him.  Or either Bush.  Or Cheney.  Or even Reagan for that matter.  But NONE of them, even Cheney, would try to pull the slimy shiat that trump did.

You farking serious with this?


You really think they would have staged a coup to remain in power indefinitely?
 
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