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(NPR)   Nothing says "I'm here to keep the media honest" quite like lying to them. At a fraud trial   (npr.org) divider line
    More: Ironic, Jury, federal fraud trial of Elizabeth Holmes, The Trial, L. Evans, Salvatore Ferragamo, Silicon Valley, Automobile, Bill Evans  
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2021-09-14 10:15:15 PM  
What did he imagine the payoff of that stunt would be?
 
2021-09-14 11:44:53 PM  
The trolls on the right have long ago realized that if they say the exact opposite of what they mean people will believe them. If they say they're not doing the thing that they are doing, people will believe them. And now every accusation is a confession.

Amazingly, it works! We are living in the most interesting and weird psychological time in history. Possibly also one of the worst, psychologically.
 
2021-09-15 1:28:47 AM  
I live in San Diego and I've never heard of this guy.
 
2021-09-15 1:31:23 AM  
So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.
 
2021-09-15 1:32:16 AM  
So maybe the daughter-in-law isn't the only loopy one in the bunch
 
2021-09-15 1:35:29 AM  
LOL 'media honest'. oxymoron.
 
2021-09-15 1:48:37 AM  
"When reached by phone about why he offered a fake name and hid his connection to Holmes, Evans said he has no memory of sitting next to me for seven hours during the first day of jury selection."

Seems legit.
 
2021-09-15 1:49:00 AM  

foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.


Having your father-in-law show up at your fraud trial in disguise under a fake name while spinning yarn about what he's there for could be considered somewhat of a red flag regarding your innocence.

/It sure as fark doesn't sound like something an innocent person would go for.
 
2021-09-15 1:49:17 AM  
wait.  people lie? oh my god.
 
2021-09-15 1:54:36 AM  

foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.


Is anyone trying to arrest him?
 
2021-09-15 1:54:38 AM  

edmo: What did he imagine the payoff of that stunt would be?


Discord. If you wanted to discredit reports from the trial, if you wanted to manipulate how the jurors are seen, if you wanted to somehow imply that the trial is tainted, you spread misinformation, pump everyone for details, and spread as much bullshiat as you possibly can to sow doubt & reduce confidence in the process.
 
2021-09-15 2:02:36 AM  

wantingout: LOL 'media honest'. oxymoron.


But enough about Fox, Newsmax, OAN, etc.
 
2021-09-15 2:08:11 AM  

wantingout: LOL 'media honest'. oxymoron.


Wake up sheeple, everything ever reported by the MSM main stream media is a lie and a conspiracy!
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2021-09-15 2:09:46 AM  
"Do I know her? Does anyone know her? What does it even mean to know someone these days?"

Surprised the reporters' eyes didn't roll straight out of their heads.
 
2021-09-15 2:16:36 AM  
"Do I know her? Does anyone know her? What does it even mean to know someone these days?" the man told NPR in the courtroom.

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2021-09-15 2:23:01 AM  

edmo: What did he imagine the payoff of that stunt would be?


Probably followed the same logic that led Holmes to sell a product that never existed. Probably just wanted his fifteen minutes. Psychopaths tend to be very impulsive and that's how they get caught. And, when that happens, they default to playing stupid and causing chaos to either draw or deflect attention. This dude was pretending not to understand the question "Do you know Ms. Holmes?" by acting like such a question was some kind of ambiguous epistemic mystery.
 
2021-09-15 2:31:28 AM  
This trial/Holmes circle gets weirder and weirder
 
2021-09-15 2:42:28 AM  

FormlessOne: edmo: What did he imagine the payoff of that stunt would be?

Discord. If you wanted to discredit reports from the trial, if you wanted to manipulate how the jurors are seen, if you wanted to somehow imply that the trial is tainted, you spread misinformation, pump everyone for details, and spread as much bullshiat as you possibly can to sow doubt & reduce confidence in the process.


That would make sense if she was being tried in the court of public opinion.  But it isn't going to change what the judge and jury do in a court of law.  (Not that I really expect it to make sense.)
 
2021-09-15 2:58:19 AM  
Do they have room for a second defendant?
 
2021-09-15 3:01:18 AM  
I often wonder if there is a genetic component to sociopathy.
 
2021-09-15 3:01:28 AM  
Hilarious that he claimed he was monitoring the media and now the media is truthfully calling him a liar.

I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through. Much like his daughter in law.
 
2021-09-15 3:06:49 AM  

Excelsior: foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.

Having your father-in-law show up at your fraud trial in disguise under a fake name while spinning yarn about what he's there for could be considered somewhat of a red flag regarding your innocence.

/It sure as fark doesn't sound like something an innocent person would go for.


You're right.  This evidence should be presented to jury, posthaste.
 
2021-09-15 4:06:20 AM  
Yeah because CEOs have it so tough here.
 
2021-09-15 4:11:58 AM  

foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.


Not being technically illegal isn't the robust defence you think it is.
 
2021-09-15 4:59:19 AM  

foo monkey: Excelsior: foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.

Having your father-in-law show up at your fraud trial in disguise under a fake name while spinning yarn about what he's there for could be considered somewhat of a red flag regarding your innocence.

/It sure as fark doesn't sound like something an innocent person would go for.

You're right.  This evidence should be presented to jury, posthaste.


If his goal was to make her look less guilty, he failed miserably. As did your brilliant attempt to pretend nothing was wrong here.
 
2021-09-15 5:32:47 AM  
If I had to share a gallery with a lot of reporters, I would be tempted to lie (if asked) about who I was, too. Not to make the defendant more or less guilty, but rather to be left alone.
 
2021-09-15 5:48:38 AM  

foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.


yeah, and there's no law against the media roadting this guy pretty bad, since he did offer himself to them under false pretenses.
 
2021-09-15 5:49:43 AM  

wantingout: LOL 'media honest'. oxymoron.


found "Hanson"s other alt

/hey there Billy!
 
2021-09-15 5:55:58 AM  

foo monkey: Excelsior: foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.

Having your father-in-law show up at your fraud trial in disguise under a fake name while spinning yarn about what he's there for could be considered somewhat of a red flag regarding your innocence.

/It sure as fark doesn't sound like something an innocent person would go for.

You're right.  This evidence should be presented to jury, posthaste.


my money says he was going to be called as a character witness for Holmes.

after this it's a 50/50 shot.

I hope he does get called and the prosecution asks him about "Hanson"
 
2021-09-15 5:57:20 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: If I had to share a gallery with a lot of reporters, I would be tempted to lie (if asked) about who I was, too. Not to make the defendant more or less guilty, but rather to be left alone.


he went out of his way to talk to them
 
2021-09-15 5:58:51 AM  

the voice of raisin: Stands With A Tiny Fist: If I had to share a gallery with a lot of reporters, I would be tempted to lie (if asked) about who I was, too. Not to make the defendant more or less guilty, but rather to be left alone.

he went out of his way to talk to them


I realize that. (I know it's heresy here, but I actually read TFA.)
 
2021-09-15 6:23:21 AM  

Gordon Bennett: foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.

Not being technically illegal isn't the robust defence you think it is.


That is the defense for the entire conservative movement.
/ok, a lot of the stuff is technically illegal too.
 
2021-09-15 6:32:00 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: If I had to share a gallery with a lot of reporters, I would be tempted to lie (if asked) about who I was, too. Not to make the defendant more or less guilty, but rather to be left alone.


Would you bring attention to yourself first like this guy?
 
2021-09-15 7:30:59 AM  
The family that sociopaths together, sociopaths together.
 
2021-09-15 7:56:21 AM  

foo monkey: So?  He's not on trial.  He's not under oath.  There's no law against being an asshole.


While it's true there is no law specifically against assholery, the generally accepted social construct revolves and relies on non-asshole behavior.  So while this particular idjit is not legally on trial for asshole behavior, he's now been judged guilty by the less-than-informed populace of Intent to Commit Assholery, if not actually guilty of First Degree Assholery.

I am not surprised.
 
2021-09-15 8:16:05 AM  
If she takes the stand -- which voice will she use?
 
2021-09-15 8:20:55 AM  

LordOfThePings: "Do I know her? Does anyone know her? What does it even mean to know someone these days?"

Surprised the reporters' eyes didn't roll straight out of their heads.


I mean are you even talking to me right now?
Semantics all the way down.
 
2021-09-15 8:24:34 AM  

falkone32: edmo: What did he imagine the payoff of that stunt would be?

Probably followed the same logic that led Holmes to sell a product that never existed. Probably just wanted his fifteen minutes. Psychopaths tend to be very impulsive and that's how they get caught. And, when that happens, they default to playing stupid and causing chaos to either draw or deflect attention. This dude was pretending not to understand the question "Do you know Ms. Holmes?" by acting like such a question was some kind of ambiguous epistemic mystery.


I I buried a child in the woods and no one is there to conduct a frantic 200 + men search party, did I really kill anyone ?
 
2021-09-15 8:59:40 AM  
The Starbucks cup is hilarious
 
2021-09-15 9:38:13 AM  

Raoul Eaton: FormlessOne: edmo: What did he imagine the payoff of that stunt would be?

Discord. If you wanted to discredit reports from the trial, if you wanted to manipulate how the jurors are seen, if you wanted to somehow imply that the trial is tainted, you spread misinformation, pump everyone for details, and spread as much bullshiat as you possibly can to sow doubt & reduce confidence in the process.

That would make sense if she was being tried in the court of public opinion.  But it isn't going to change what the judge and jury do in a court of law.  (Not that I really expect it to make sense.)


No, I'm with you - in a sane world, his hijinks would be pointless. We're not in a sane world any more. My conjecture is based on their previous hijinks, but his reasons could just as readily be "he did it for fun" or "he thinks he'll start a conspiracy theory" or "he's a psychopath."
 
2021-09-15 3:22:57 PM  
Who's next, Tucker "bow-tie boy" Carleson?
 
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