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(WFAA Fort Worth)   2,000,000 Texans got their first COVID jab and since then have decided that's good enough, despite ample evidence that Delta has been culling the herd quite efficiently as of late   (wfaa.com) divider line
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2021-09-15 5:05:16 AM  
How many more need to die before they start losing Electoral College votes and Congressional representatives?
 
2021-09-15 6:02:33 AM  
Local troll ass account vocal defender of what he imagines epidemiology to be.
 
2021-09-15 7:25:10 AM  

foo monkey: The only boosters Texans care about are the ones for the high school football team.


I think the only thing that would begin to change minds is if large numbers of young athletes, football players specifically, came out of a covid infection unable to play ever again. And sterile. I can't think of anything else that will change minds, other than the possibility of losing High School football.

And mind you - it'll be the game, not the kids, that they'd be upset about losing.
 
2021-09-15 7:30:53 AM  
I'm really tired of this slow virus and the people who just won't take it seriously. Can we, like, induce a mutation yet? Just make it go fast?? We have to have some mutation points by now, c'mon, let's kick it up a notch!
 
2021-09-15 7:32:33 AM  

dbeshear: How many more need to die before they start losing Electoral College votes and Congressional representatives?


They'll just cheat harder.
 
2021-09-15 7:48:35 AM  

SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.


1 in 500 U.S. citizens have died of COVID since this whole thing started. So, please, shut the fark up.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/health​/​us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html
 
2021-09-15 7:59:22 AM  

SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.


You want to bet your life it won't be you who gets deathly ill and dies?

Also: it's not just about dying, it's about limiting the spread and the variants. More vaccinated means less probability of spreading because vaxed folks don't spread as well as unvaxed.
 
2021-09-15 8:04:56 AM  
What's the data for difference in efficacy between one Moderna shot and one J&J shot? Anyone?
 
2021-09-15 8:06:28 AM  

SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.


you've got some blood on your hands - might want to go wash them.
 
2021-09-15 8:10:03 AM  

Flowery Twats: SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.

You want to bet your life it won't be you who gets deathly ill and dies?

Also: it's not just about dying, it's about limiting the spread and the variants. More vaccinated means less probability of spreading because vaxed folks don't spread as well as unvaxed.


And about the 30+% of people who have even a mild infection who end up with long term and possibly permanent symptoms.
 
2021-09-15 8:31:24 AM  

Smoking GNU: Dr. DJ Duckhunt: mrshowrules: One shotters are the strangest of all.  You already got the microchip, what do you have to lose?

They are probably the biggest wimps. "Oh my arm hurty for a few days and not feel gud. Will not do again rendering my previous shot worth less."

After i got my first AZ shot (was the best vax we had available) i couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder without pure agony. I also spent the day after getting the shot in bed feeling the worst i've felt since i had dysentery in 2018 (actually feeling worse than i did with that).

You bet your sweet ass i'm counting down the days to Oct 20th when i can get my second shot.


It really depends on the person.  I had my first AZ shot back in the Spring.  I had very mild aches and pains for about 24 hours.  2nd: had no symptoms at all.

I know two other people who got quite sick with their first AZ shot - they were both women (I'm a dude).  Seems like AZ had more side-effects for women based on anecdotal stuff I've seen.
 
2021-09-15 8:42:18 AM  

dennishiding: Most of this story is 3rd hand hearsay, but we need to count natural immunity and stop only counting vaccination.   Many folks strongly suspect that they were exposed and had mild symptoms, took a few days off work and never got tested.    They didn't get tested because because they knew people with positive test results were getting kicked out of work for a month plus regardless of symptoms.

Now there are some folks that are trying to get vaccinations to satisfy mandates and having severe reactions.   On going to their doctor they find that their anti-body counts are absurdly high and being told if they take the second shot with their counts that high they will end up in the hospital.   They don't need another shot, but they might be able to take it if they wait 6 weeks, and even then the doctor wants them to contact the doctor when they do for fear they may still have reactions severe enough to warrant additional medical care.

I'm the positive test result that had to stay home from work for 6 weeks despite being symptom free after 2 weeks.   I also got the vaccination shots a few months later with no serious reaction.   The rest of the people referred to above are just the water cooler stories from work.

I fully support the idea that folks that already have a high anti-body count for the COVID have no reason to get a vaccination for the small additional benefit, when they are already many times more protected by their natural response than those with only protection of the vaccination.    This would allow the vaccinations to be focused where they do the most good as well as reduce some of the adverse reaction stories that cause the hesitant to be hesitant.


I agree but for some people natural immunity does not last long and we can't get people to wear masks are there really going to get a finger prick every month?
Maybe if the next variant is 10x more viral and 5x more deadly we will all be getting finger pricks
 
2021-09-15 9:32:12 AM  

ctighe2353: I agree but for some people natural immunity does not last long and we can't get people to wear masks are there really going to get a finger prick every month?
Maybe if the next variant is 10x more viral and 5x more deadly we will all be getting finger pricks


Also some of the people to claiming to natural immunity because they already had COVID-19 are only guessing that they had COVID and never actually got tested.
 
2021-09-15 9:35:03 AM  
At this point, just let them go out to pasture.  Others without covid are dying because they are not able to get a bed in a hospital because they are completely filled with unvaccinated covid patients.  Any unused retail space can be a covid ward; we don't need to build hospitals in 2 weeks like China, just need to use all the vacant buildings that we already have.
 
2021-09-15 9:52:24 AM  

soj4life: At this point, just let them go out to pasture.  Others without covid are dying because they are not able to get a bed in a hospital because they are completely filled with unvaccinated covid patients.  Any unused retail space can be a covid ward; we don't need to build hospitals in 2 weeks like China, just need to use all the vacant buildings that we already have.


Unused retail space?  Hold on here.  That's expensive.  Get some quotes, otherwise parking lots and condemned warehouses are just fine.
 
2021-09-15 10:03:51 AM  
Well, it's Texas. So about 10% of them are currently in ICU, with another 1% headed to heaven's door(or Satan's door if they worshipped Trump as a false profit).
 
2021-09-15 10:21:28 AM  

SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.


I mean, yeah, you're totally right.  It's not like this hasn't killed over 650,000 people.  And for each one of those dead bodies, we have another 2 - 4 heart attacks and strokes, 10 people with severe long hauling symptoms, and 10+ with long term organ damage.  For EACH of those 650,000 dead bodies.

But if they're not a corpse, it's all good, right?  No biggie that it'll result in tens of millions of years of lost life in our citizens, just based on infections we've had so far.  It's not like it's overwhelming our medical system to the point of a mass exodus of trained medical personnel, resulting in a precipitous loss of ICU bed capacity.  Or that a huge percentage of nurses, respiratory therapists, etc. are planning to leave the medical field in the next 12 months.

If all you're looking at is the raw mortality percentage, you don't have any understanding of the problem.
 
2021-09-15 6:20:10 PM  

mrshowrules: ctighe2353: I agree but for some people natural immunity does not last long and we can't get people to wear masks are there really going to get a finger prick every month?
Maybe if the next variant is 10x more viral and 5x more deadly we will all be getting finger pricks

Also some of the people to claiming to natural immunity because they already had COVID-19 are only guessing that they had COVID and never actually got tested.


This, its honestly just an excuse a lot of anti-vaxxers are trotting out to make themselves look less bad.

My anti-vaxx relatives are repeating the same damn story about "totally had covid at the very beginning of the pandemic before testing was available, for reals ya'll" despite never mentioning it back then when I talked to them.
 
2021-09-16 2:13:46 AM  

namegoeshere: foo monkey: The only boosters Texans care about are the ones for the high school football team.

I think the only thing that would begin to change minds is if large numbers of young athletes, football players specifically, came out of a covid infection unable to play ever again. And sterile. I can't think of anything else that will change minds, other than the possibility of losing High School football.

And mind you - it'll be the game, not the kids, that they'd be upset about losing.


I've heard that ivermectin greatly increases that possibility.
 
2021-09-16 2:16:42 AM  

sniderman: SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.

1 in 500 U.S. citizens have died of COVID since this whole thing started. So, please, shut the fark up.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/health/​us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html


1/500 = 0.2%

Not a frightening/persuasive statistic.
 
2021-09-16 2:22:45 AM  

Flowery Twats: SavoyGaming: Yall ever gonna realize that covid doesnt actually kill every person who gets infected.  I mean i get that its fun to live in a fantasy world but damn, isnt it about time to wake the fark up and join the rest of us in reality.

You want to bet your life it won't be you who gets deathly ill and dies?

Also: it's not just about dying, it's about limiting the spread and the variants. More vaccinated means less probability of spreading because vaxed folks don't spread as well as unvaxed.


Studies have shown that the nasal viral load of vaccinated people with breakthrough cases of Covid-19 (delta variant) is equivalent to the nasal viral load of unvaccinated people with the delta variant for the first week of the disease.  Then their viral load decreases rapidly.  So for the first seven days of the illness, the mildness of the illness in a vaccinated person can lead them to spread the virus around just as effectively as an unvaccinated person, and perhaps more, if they don't recognize the illness for what it is and don't isolate themselves.
 
2021-09-16 10:57:08 AM  

Khellendros: If all you're looking at is the raw mortality percentage, you don't have any understanding of the problem.


Wow, way to miss the point by a country mile you dumbass.  My whole complaint is that people are focusing way too much on the mortality percentage and not enough on the long term complications.  Fuking shiat, no wonder this country is in the state its in.  Its full of idiots who cant read.
 
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