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(CTV News)   Texas of the North's top Doc says she didn't see the havoc caused by the delta variant coming when she approved removing virtually all covid restrictions back in July. Pretty sure a bat with a severe eye infection could have seen delta coming   (calgary.ctvnews.ca) divider line
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2021-09-14 2:04:48 PM  
She has lost all credibility, Hinshaw needs to resign.
 
2021-09-14 2:08:48 PM  
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Ah, so she's a loopy Harry Potter character.
 
2021-09-14 2:20:06 PM  
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2021-09-14 3:04:41 PM  
She was as extra special wrong as all the ass clowns. Re-enforces my faith in humanity
 
2021-09-14 3:42:05 PM  
A top doctor who couldn't see an ocean liner coming from ten feet away is absolutely par for the course for Kenney's United COVID Party government.  The entire administration is thicker than bitumen porridge.
 
2021-09-14 3:52:57 PM  
Well, I guess the field of "Stupid C*nt Of the Year" contestants just grew by one.
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2021-09-14 3:53:21 PM  
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It's that prick Kenney's fault.
 
2021-09-14 3:54:25 PM  
She made a political decision. Or ideological decision, whatever you prefer.

It most definitely was not based on medical research.

If she really was Alberta's "top" doctor, what does that say about the rest of the doctors?
 
2021-09-14 3:56:00 PM  
Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.
 
2021-09-14 3:57:32 PM  
Also, subby, go chew glass. We've got abortions, electricity, and textbooks that don't say "God did it."

Alberta is a province full of assholes. And as an asshole I take offense being compared to Texas.
 
2021-09-14 3:59:34 PM  

bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.


Adds up just fine. Not our fault you can't math.
 
2021-09-14 4:00:17 PM  
I wonder how Mu'ved she is about the next variant?
 
2021-09-14 4:03:10 PM  

bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.


Provinces with higher vaccination rates are doing better than Alberta.

Bet you can't explain that.
 
2021-09-14 4:03:25 PM  
I thought the headline was referring to Alaska...
 
2021-09-14 4:06:04 PM  

BlackPete: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

Provinces with higher vaccination rates are doing better than Alberta.

Bet you can't explain that.


Explain Israel then
 
2021-09-14 4:08:25 PM  

dirkfunk: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

Adds up just fine. Not our fault you can't math.


Sure I can.
2+2= Your ASS
 
2021-09-14 4:19:17 PM  

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Ah, so she's a loopy Harry Potter character.


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Shouldn't she had predicted that she was giving Alberta the grim?
 
2021-09-14 4:19:52 PM  

bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.


Let me help you math

Texas has a population of 28,995,881
40% of that (unvaccinated) is:  11,598,352
Number of Texans who've had Covid: 3,844,990
so Texas has 7,753,362 people who can be infected yet and they don't have that many hospital beds.
 
2021-09-14 4:20:45 PM  
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2021-09-14 4:21:24 PM  
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2021-09-14 4:23:51 PM  

bangman: BlackPete: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

Provinces with higher vaccination rates are doing better than Alberta.

Bet you can't explain that.

Explain Israel then


A) Delta infects people--including children-- a bit easier (The 60% number is *OF ADULTS*, not *OF TOTAL PEOPLE*), and everyone decided it was good to re-open in person schools anyways.
B) Vaccines are not magical invulnerability shields that vaporize viruses on contact. They are defenses shored up in advance. If your viral load is high enough--like, say, a high enough people who refuse to vaccinate--you can still get a breakthrough infection.

The reason cases are rising despite the vaccine is, in part, because a sizeable chunk of people have decided taking precautions is just too much trouble,and in-person school--filled with a good chunk of people that cannot get vaccinated--just HAD to go on!
 
2021-09-14 4:23:59 PM  

bangman: BlackPete: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

Provinces with higher vaccination rates are doing better than Alberta.

Bet you can't explain that.

Explain Israel then


Sure, they thought they had herd immunity, peaked at about 60% vaccinated, lifted all restrictions, then found out. Everyone smart in Alberta pointed to Israel and the UK and said that was going to happen here if we remove restrictions. Restrictions were removed and people died.
 
2021-09-14 4:24:39 PM  

bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.


You should be multiplying, not adding.

The key is the 'Rt' parameter, the average number of new cases which each infected person will cause. Keep it below 1.0 and transmission will gradually decline. Let it get above 1.0 and cases grow exponentially (which is a bad thing, by the way) until the disease burns itself out.

Vaccination reduces Rt. Masks, distancing, etc. also reduce it. Widespread screening with rapid tests (followed by isolation and contact tracing) would reduce it. No single measure is going to bring it all the way down to zero. If you have 3 individual strategies which are each 50% effective at reducing transmission, you can stack them together for an 87% overall reduction. If you only use two of them then you only get a 75% reduction. 

Certain mutations increase Rt. Control measures which worked out to an Rt of 0.8 for the baseline variant might only bring it down to 1.5 with Delta. You need higher vaccine coverage, more mask compliance, less indoor dining, etc. to get back to where you started.

Instead of ramping up the control measures as the fraction of Delta cases increased, Alberta chose a "yee-haw, it's over, we're open for business" strategy.
 
2021-09-14 4:32:28 PM  

bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.


It only doesn't add up if you can't math and don't understand how COVID or vaccines or mask mandates work.

Funny how here in Ontario, where we're close to 90% single-dose and almost 80% fully vaccinated, and have still held back completely removing all restrictions (we still have capacity limits, a mask mandate, and restrictions on who can attend public events based on vaccination status), our daily average number of new cases is in the low 700s.  Doug Ford may be a farking moron and an asshole, and he may have farked up his COVID response three times after the initial shut-down by reopening way too early, but we've managed to keep the numbers still relatively low -- positively ground floor compared to Alberta, where Kenney and Co. have farked up so badly that their numbers are almost as bad now as they were in the spring.

But sure, let your lack of understanding free to express its opinions as if they mean something.

Antivaxxers and anti-maskers are, by textbook definition, plague rats.  If they get the virus, they'll spread it like peanut butter on toast.
 
2021-09-14 4:35:05 PM  

bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.


It's also easier because they're actually the ones dragging this out.
 
2021-09-14 4:35:18 PM  
Even I saw that one coming.

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2021-09-14 4:37:00 PM  

BlackPete: She made a political decision. Or ideological decision, whatever you prefer.

It most definitely was not based on medical research.

If she really was Alberta's "top" doctor, what does that say about the rest of the doctors?


She didn't make the decision, she stated a long while back that her role is to advise and not to decide on what to do.
She made recommendations, secret recommendations that no one will talk about, using data no one actually sees, and then Kenny and his moronic health minister decided what course to take.

that said, she farked up, REAL bad, as soon as it looked like the politicians were going to get people killed and bring the health system to its knees, if she truly wasn't on board, she should have been raising hell.
 
2021-09-14 4:39:51 PM  
Sounds like their "top doctors" are about as good as our "top cops".
 
2021-09-14 4:40:59 PM  

Psychopusher: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

It only doesn't add up if you can't math and don't understand how COVID or vaccines or mask mandates work.

Funny how here in Ontario, where we're close to 90% single-dose and almost 80% fully vaccinated, and have still held back completely removing all restrictions (we still have capacity limits, a mask mandate, and restrictions on who can attend public events based on vaccination status), our daily average number of new cases is in the low 700s.  Doug Ford may be a farking moron and an asshole, and he may have farked up his COVID response three times after the initial shut-down by reopening way too early, but we've managed to keep the numbers still relatively low -- positively ground floor compared to Alberta, where Kenney and Co. have farked up so badly that their numbers are almost as bad now as they were in the spring.

But sure, let your lack of understanding free to express its opinions as if they mean something.

Antivaxxers and anti-maskers are, by textbook definition, plague rats.  If they get the virus, they'll spread it like peanut butter on toast.


Admittedly, my sample size is small, and I've only been in Ontario for a few days, but nearly everyone here seems to be stepping up.  As I posted earlier, masks are almost universal and the people are even more polite about keeping their distance.  It's nice to be able to do my necessary errands while wearing a mask without wondering where the next verbal assault will come from.
 
2021-09-14 4:44:48 PM  
I remember the day after they announced they were dropping everything she went on CBC National for an interview and said "If not now than when." (direct quote). She can go fark herself.

Her credibility is at 0.  Either she was all on board with what happened or she feels she can exert more influence by staying on Kennys good side. If this is the result of the latter than she farked up.  If it's what she truly believed than she farked up.  She is not fit for her job.

/if you're in AB follow Protect Our Province instead for factual information without the gaslighting.
 
2021-09-14 4:51:19 PM  

DOCTORD000M: I remember the day after they announced they were dropping everything she went on CBC National for an interview and said "If not now than when." (direct quote). She can go fark herself.

Her credibility is at 0.  Either she was all on board with what happened or she feels she can exert more influence by staying on Kennys good side. If this is the result of the latter than she farked up.  If it's what she truly believed than she farked up.  She is not fit for her job.

/if you're in AB follow Protect Our Province instead for factual information without the gaslighting.


Link to their twitter, FYI:
https://mobile.twitter.com/popalberta​
 
2021-09-14 4:55:23 PM  

Gough: Admittedly, my sample size is small, and I've only been in Ontario for a few days, but nearly everyone here seems to be stepping up. As I posted earlier, masks are almost universal and the people are even more polite about keeping their distance. It's nice to be able to do my necessary errands while wearing a mask without wondering where the next verbal assault will come from.


We have our fair share of plague rat morons, and they've been getting more militant lately -- most recently protesting against a vaccine mandate outside a farking hospital, verbally assaulting hospital staff, some, most farked up of all, even threatening to bring guns to show hospital staff they mean business.  In a country where we outright banned AR-15 and have some of the strictest gun laws around.  It's mind-boggling.

But by and large we tend to follow the rules, observe COVID best practises, and just go with the flow as long as this virus still rages.  Masks suck, but COVID sucks worse, and I think most of us understand that.  We want this damn thing to fark right the hell off, and we're rightly pissed at the morons that keep propagating it.
 
2021-09-14 5:02:15 PM  
Not N Texas.  She said sorry.  No Texan will say sorry.
 
2021-09-14 5:15:27 PM  
Um...bats see with their ears.
 
2021-09-14 5:15:36 PM  
My Edmonton cousin's kid got COVID after two days at school and brought it home.  fark this doc, fark Kenny and his merry band of incompetent assclowns, fark every mouth-breathing assbadger that voted for them, and fark every dickheaded anti-masker with and unlubricated rusty pitchfork.
 
2021-09-14 5:30:29 PM  
The old No one could have imagined this excuse, which is really the right-wing way to secretly say We knew this would happen, but we figured we could milk it.
 
2021-09-14 5:41:54 PM  
91-divoc's Canadian province data. Yesterday, Alberta reported 107.2 new cases per 100K in population, 7 day average of 44.6 cases per 100K per day. (Alberta record for 7-day average is 46.5 cases per 100K per day 5/6/2021)

Yesterday, Saskatchewan reported 38.2 per 100K (Province record), and a 7 day average 31.9 cases per 100K per day.
 
2021-09-14 5:50:04 PM  
This "They'll treat us a liberators" lie use to be just taught to political science students.  Now everyone wants to get in on the lie.  Doctors need to put down those Chesterfields Camels and forgo that Hollywood career.

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2021-09-14 5:51:49 PM  
Her announcement today leads me to believe she is starting to grow a back bone. I saw her be whipped in line by Kenny, the light left her eyes that day. I hope she stops thinking about herself and her pay check and starts standing up for science again. Or resign because non plague rats are dying because of her. Can you imagine, like my mother's friend, having a brain tumor surgery cancelled because plague rats filled the hospital. (I'm so glad I left AB, the good people there have no chance against the asshats)
 
2021-09-14 6:05:32 PM  

BitwiseShift: This "They'll treat us a liberators" lie use to be just taught to political science students.  Now everyone wants to get in on the lie.  Doctors need to put down those Chesterfields Camels and forgo that Hollywood career.

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Are you equating vaccines to cigarettes, Plague Rat?
 
2021-09-14 6:27:53 PM  

Psychopusher: Gough: Admittedly, my sample size is small, and I've only been in Ontario for a few days, but nearly everyone here seems to be stepping up. As I posted earlier, masks are almost universal and the people are even more polite about keeping their distance. It's nice to be able to do my necessary errands while wearing a mask without wondering where the next verbal assault will come from.

We have our fair share of plague rat morons, and they've been getting more militant lately -- most recently protesting against a vaccine mandate outside a farking hospital, verbally assaulting hospital staff, some, most farked up of all, even threatening to bring guns to show hospital staff they mean business.  In a country where we outright banned AR-15 and have some of the strictest gun laws around.  It's mind-boggling.

But by and large we tend to follow the rules, observe COVID best practises, and just go with the flow as long as this virus still rages.  Masks suck, but COVID sucks worse, and I think most of us understand that.  We want this damn thing to fark right the hell off, and we're rightly pissed at the morons that keep propagating it.


To put it in context, we drove here from Idaho, so it feels as if we've escaped a shiathole country.  In Idaho, we have not only our fair share of plague rat morons, but several other state's shares as well.
 
2021-09-14 6:33:12 PM  

DOCTORD000M: DOCTORD000M: I remember the day after they announced they were dropping everything she went on CBC National for an interview and said "If not now than when." (direct quote). She can go fark herself.

Her credibility is at 0.  Either she was all on board with what happened or she feels she can exert more influence by staying on Kennys good side. If this is the result of the latter than she farked up.  If it's what she truly believed than she farked up.  She is not fit for her job.

/if you're in AB follow Protect Our Province instead for factual information without the gaslighting.

Link to their twitter, FYI:
https://mobile.twitter.com/popalberta


Thanks for the link, sharing it with my parents who are in Alberta.
 
2021-09-14 7:03:41 PM  
It sure it could see it. It can also see the next 15 strains coming. Past that we are going to need some other animal with an eye infection to give us a heads up. Maybe by then we will have a vaccine that actually works as advertised and not some...
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2021-09-14 7:06:30 PM  

Gough: To put it in context, we drove here from Idaho, so it feels as if we've escaped a shiathole country. In Idaho, we have not only our fair share of plague rat morons, but several other state's shares as well.


Ouch!  My condolences.  Idaho's a fairly red state, and we know what that means when it comes to COVID.  But hey, you're welcome to refuge here as long as you want.  Just avoid Toronto's endless construction zones and you'll be fine.  :)
 
2021-09-14 7:10:23 PM  
Kudos to submitter for "Texas of the north."
 
2021-09-14 7:26:23 PM  

SirMadness: Also, subby, go chew glass. We've got abortions, electricity, and textbooks that don't say "God did it."

Alberta is a province full of assholes. And as an asshole I take offense being compared to Texas.


Or textbooks are gonna talk about the great jazz ancestors of our Premiers, soooooo

No, you're right. God is still worse
 
2021-09-14 7:32:57 PM  
Norm Macdonald died?

Wtf are we arguing about?
 
2021-09-14 7:45:12 PM  

bangman: BlackPete: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

Provinces with higher vaccination rates are doing better than Alberta.

Bet you can't explain that.

Explain Israel then


It's not just about vaccines.

You need to wear masks, enforce quarantine, do spacing etc.

Alberta just gave up.
 
2021-09-14 8:01:21 PM  

Ivo Shandor: bangman: Weird. With close to 60% vaccinated and the number of how many people have already had Covid over the last year and a half and the cases are increasing. Something does not add up. But its just easier to blame anti-vaxxers and calling them plague rats.

You should be multiplying, not adding.


Multiplying is the last thing they should do...
 
2021-09-14 8:19:18 PM  

twocent: Um...bats see with their ears.


Nope. Subby is alluding to bats having relatively poor eyesight. Add an eye problem to make eyesight worse, and we have a bat that still would see a pandemic spreading. Bats do not see with ears. They have very good heating and use echos to hear what their surrounds are. They're not seeing, they're hearing their surrounds. Some blind people do something similar by 'clicking'.
 
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