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(CBS News)   Sleep apnea sufferers still using recalled CPAP machines containing foam that "may degrade into particles, of-gasp... chemicals" that may cause cancer   (cbsnews.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Sleep, manufacturer Philips, sleep apnea, CPAP breathing machines, Polysomnography, James Colbert, investigative correspondent Anna Werner, CBS News consumer  
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2021-09-14 2:27:07 PM  
Did CPAP back in the 90's while I waited for a surgery opening, prior to laser availability. Hated the CPAP, but between it and the surgery, probably saved my life.

/always post in these threads having had severe apnea.
//if it's an issue get it checked.
///was fortunate enough to get wired up and do at home sleep study.
////blood oxygen hit low of 70% (not kidding).
////HMO at the time, moved me up from 8 week wait to 10 days due to severity.
////take it seriously
// hardly snore at all anymore even after all these years.
 
2021-09-14 2:46:22 PM  

DrKillPatient: Did CPAP back in the 90's while I waited for a surgery opening, prior to laser availability. Hated the CPAP, but between it and the surgery, probably saved my life.

/always post in these threads having had severe apnea.
//if it's an issue get it checked.
///was fortunate enough to get wired up and do at home sleep study.
////blood oxygen hit low of 70% (not kidding).
////HMO at the time, moved me up from 8 week wait to 10 days due to severity.
////take it seriously
// hardly snore at all anymore even after all these years.


Quick follow up.

Was in denial until the wife relegated me out of the bedroom. Actually videotaped me with the old VHS camcorder while I slept. Surprised I did not pull the paint off the wall.

Sleep study also showed I could go close to 90 seconds without breathing.

For clarity, post sleep study showed average 96+% saturation. Fortunately told my results could not be any better.

Apnea is not a joke.
 
2021-09-14 2:47:29 PM  
Well, subby, if your options were A) using a machine that might waft carcinogenic particles into your lungs and B) stopping breathing many times a night, which would you choose?
 
2021-09-14 2:54:49 PM  
Never heard this issue before. Thank god I don't use the model listed, I got a ResMed AirSense 10.

(Thank god and sonny Jesus for CPAP machines)
 
2021-09-14 3:06:26 PM  
many people with the machines use an ozone cleaning system to clean them, and that may be degrading the sound abatement foam faster.

I'm good! I knew my cheapness and laziness would come in handy one day.

/I also have my older mostly working machine around here somewhere.
 
2021-09-14 3:15:11 PM  

DrKillPatient: DrKillPatient: Did CPAP back in the 90's while I waited for a surgery opening, prior to laser availability. Hated the CPAP, but between it and the surgery, probably saved my life.

/always post in these threads having had severe apnea.
//if it's an issue get it checked.
///was fortunate enough to get wired up and do at home sleep study.
////blood oxygen hit low of 70% (not kidding).
////HMO at the time, moved me up from 8 week wait to 10 days due to severity.
////take it seriously
// hardly snore at all anymore even after all these years.

Quick follow up.

Was in denial until the wife relegated me out of the bedroom. Actually videotaped me with the old VHS camcorder while I slept. Surprised I did not pull the paint off the wall.

Sleep study also showed I could go close to 90 seconds without breathing.

For clarity, post sleep study showed average 96+% saturation. Fortunately told my results could not be any better.

Apnea is not a joke.


BTW, not subby, just posting my experience.
 
2021-09-14 3:18:21 PM  

gopher321: Never heard this issue before. Thank god I don't use the model listed, I got a ResMed AirSense 10.

(Thank god and sonny Jesus for CPAP machines)


No kidding. I now wake up without the headache from oxygen deprivation. If I fall asleep without the mask I have dreams that I'm being suffocated or drowning because I stop breathing for so long.

The only thing I can't stand is the machine blowing warm moist air on my face. It's like having a St Bernard panting on you. I put ice cubes in the reservoir so the initial air is cool, at least for a while.
 
2021-09-14 3:27:32 PM  
Been using a CPAP for over 10 years.  Before i was litterally a walking zombie and nearly falling asleep at work, or driving to work.

THe first night of using a CPAP was the first night i had a good nights sleep in years.  Forgotten what getting a good nights rest felt like.

just wish I could afford surgery and not have to use a machine, and could do camping.  But American medical system sucks
 
2021-09-14 3:44:29 PM  

Xanadone: Well, subby, if your options were A) using a machine that might waft carcinogenic particles into your lungs and B) stopping breathing many times a night, which would you choose?


C) a machine that doesn't do that.  also don't use the ozone generators to clean your CPAPS.  if it is bad for bacteria and fungi it is terrible for your lungs, also that is probably what is reacting with the plastic and creating the problem.
 
2021-09-14 3:44:40 PM  
Using an APAP for a few years now, I was stunned when my SO told me that I stopped breathing in my sleep

/ APAPs are CPAPs but that can automatically adjust the required pressure
 
2021-09-14 4:02:42 PM  
It's not news, recall happened 3 months ago. Just before I had a follow-up appointment for my brand new Philips CPAP machine. Doh!
 
2021-09-14 4:05:00 PM  
Bi-Pap user here. My brain neglects to tell me to breathe while I sleep in addition to the obstructive apnea. PAP therapy changed my world. Never been much of a sleeper but at least the 4-5 hours of sleep I get a night are solid.
 
2021-09-14 4:56:21 PM  

kkinnison: just wish I could afford surgery and not have to use a machine, and could do camping.


I took mine camping all the time with a deep cycle battery and inverter.

I eventually just sorta weened off it after losing 40lbs. Not sure if I still need it but I really knew I needed it when I started. I used to scare friends and family when I'd stay the night. My wife never really noticed because she sleeps like a rock.
 
2021-09-14 6:45:05 PM  
I used a CPAP machine for a while, Once I got myself out of a high stress situation, I was able to stop using it.  The reason I stopped was actually because it stopped working.  One of the main bearings went out on it.  Losing 40 pounds over the last year helped a good bit too.   I still have allergies and make the occasional noises, but nothing compared to what I was going through.

If you think you're having issues, definitely do a sleep study.
 
2021-09-14 7:42:29 PM  

SafetyThird: kkinnison: just wish I could afford surgery and not have to use a machine, and could do camping.

I took mine camping all the time with a deep cycle battery and inverter.

I eventually just sorta weened off it after losing 40lbs. Not sure if I still need it but I really knew I needed it when I started. I used to scare friends and family when I'd stay the night. My wife never really noticed because she sleeps like a rock.


I would like to camp without having to lug a deep cycle battery, inverter, and CPAP machine around.
 
2021-09-14 10:36:18 PM  
I informed the user of one of these machines a day or two before her sleep clinic forwarded the recall. Stopped using it for a bit and the effects were so obvious she restarted using it.
 
2021-09-15 6:46:19 AM  

kkinnison: SafetyThird: kkinnison: just wish I could afford surgery and not have to use a machine, and could do camping.

I took mine camping all the time with a deep cycle battery and inverter.

I eventually just sorta weened off it after losing 40lbs. Not sure if I still need it but I really knew I needed it when I started. I used to scare friends and family when I'd stay the night. My wife never really noticed because she sleeps like a rock.

I would like to camp without having to lug a deep cycle battery, inverter, and CPAP machine around.


They do make little mini-cpaps machines, for people who travel (they are compact so take up less space in luggage, but are less robust) and there are compact (lithium?) batteries that can connect to them. Which is nice for all those people who have a couple of thousand dollars to throw around on such things. Basically, most problems are easily solved if you have a lot of money.
 
2021-09-15 2:22:36 PM  
I am super glad I don't work there anymore.  It was enough of a PITA working there after the whistleblower incident...I would hate to have still been working reseller supply chain stuff during all this.
 
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