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(Forbes)   Rep. Omar hasn't reported making any money from her book because she hasn't made any money from her book   (forbes.com) divider line
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2021-09-14 11:17:38 AM  
She obviously doesn't have any empty warehouses
 
2021-09-14 1:49:11 PM  
"Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.
 
2021-09-14 2:47:45 PM  
"Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent. "Anything else you hear about her benefiting financially from the book is groundless-and erroneous-speculation."

IMPOSSIBLE, she's a LIMOUSINE SOCIALIST!!
 
2021-09-14 5:15:02 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.


Maybe they did agree to a lower advance than she could have. The $100,000 might be what the co-author expected to receive regardless of Omar.
 
2021-09-14 5:15:13 PM  
Yeah I get that about the profits going forward but what about the advance?

Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator

Oh. Guess I shoulda read TFA, eh?
 
2021-09-14 5:17:43 PM  

andrewagill: Oh. Guess I shoulda read TFA, eh?


splitter!
 
2021-09-14 5:19:32 PM  
Why is this even a discussion? Are we suddenly going to start holding politicians responsible for conflicts of interest and ethics violations again?
 
2021-09-14 5:21:20 PM  
9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.
 
2021-09-14 5:23:16 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.


Maybe she wasn't in it for the money at all and actually means all the stuff she says?
 
2021-09-14 5:23:46 PM  

jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.


She didn't have the DNC buy thousands of copies of the book to give away in exchange of donations... unlike some people.
 
2021-09-14 5:26:11 PM  
So if you have a contract and the money is paid to you and you hand the money to someone else you still made that money. It doesn't matter if you hand it off to someone else or not.

I do not know the details. But if she received that money and then gave it to someone else, she still should report it.
 
2021-09-14 5:27:29 PM  
What she can't get PACs to buy them all and put them into storage forever like the GQP does.
 
2021-09-14 5:29:09 PM  
"Anything else you hear about her benefiting financially from the book is groundless-and erroneous-speculation."

a few hours later...

Fox "News" Headline: Rep Ilhan "Hussein" Omar benefits financially from book, refuses to include in annual financial disclosures.....says "i don't have to do that, only you do".
 
2021-09-14 5:30:20 PM  
It is normal and healthy that our side 1) doesn't have a sophisticated book sale laundering organization 2) doesn't have a cultlike devotion to our elected leaders. Why would I give a shiat what a backbench congresscriter has to think.
 
2021-09-14 5:31:11 PM  

Corvus: So if you have a contract and the money is paid to you and you hand the money to someone else you still made that money. It doesn't matter if you hand it off to someone else or not.

I do not know the details. But if she received that money and then gave it to someone else, she still should report it.


true.. but if the money was not handed to you and just went directly to someone else.. then whats to report?
 
2021-09-14 5:37:31 PM  

Boondock3806: Why is this even a discussion? Are we suddenly going to start holding politicians responsible for conflicts of interest and ethics violations again?


Only if they have a (D) next to their name, especially if they are those uppity women.
 
2021-09-14 5:38:51 PM  

jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.


Print copies. You realize there are digital formats to read books now, correct?
 
2021-09-14 5:40:12 PM  

Ragin' Asian: jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.

Print copies. You realize there are digital formats to read books now, correct?


Ironically, what jjorsett doesn't know could fill 9500 books.
 
2021-09-14 5:44:50 PM  

Corvus: So if you have a contract and the money is paid to you and you hand the money to someone else you still made that money. It doesn't matter if you hand it off to someone else or not.

I do not know the details. But if she received that money and then gave it to someone else, she still should report it.


More likely, there is a contract that gives money to another person and in the future might give money to her.
 
2021-09-14 5:52:01 PM  

emersonbiggins: Ragin' Asian: jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.

Print copies. You realize there are digital formats to read books now, correct?

Ironically, what jjorsett doesn't know could fill 9500 books.


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2021-09-14 5:52:07 PM  
So, she didn't sell $157,000 worth of books to her campaign (right, Ted) or $300,000 worth to the DNC (right, Half Scoop) as rewards for donations?
 
2021-09-14 5:52:37 PM  

jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.


The classic model for Republican with a book is to have their campaign buy a jillion copies and then give them away.  You get to launder some campaign donations and crow about how many copies you've sold.
 
2021-09-14 6:06:09 PM  

Boondock3806: Why is this even a discussion? Are we suddenly going to start holding politicians responsible for conflicts of interest and ethics violations again?


Only if they're some combination of not-white, not-male, and not-Republican
 
2021-09-14 6:20:13 PM  
As for royalty payments, typically an author doesn't earn them until any advance is paid off. Sales figures for Omar's book make it appear unlikely she reached that threshold by the end of 2020. Published that May, Omar's memoir has sold 9,500 print copies in the United States through last week, according to NPD BookScan, an industry data service.

In fact, most books do not earn out their advance.  This is not unusual at all.

Pocket Ninja: Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.


Since her collaborator's name appears on the cover, I believe she should be referred to as a "writer" without the "ghost" qualifer.

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/Apropos of nothing whatsoever, she's hawt.
 
2021-09-14 6:28:18 PM  

flondrix: Since her collaborator's name appears on the cover, I believe she should be referred to as a "writer" without the "ghost" qualifer.


I had not seen the cover. You are correct. I shouldn't have assumed, but politicians who actually acknowledge the person who made their book readable are a rare breed. I should have known better with her.
 
2021-09-14 6:32:36 PM  

Halfabee64: So, she didn't sell $157,000 worth of books to her campaign (right, Ted) or $300,000 worth to the DNC (right, Half Scoop) as rewards for donations?


You can be damn sure if she tried the media would lose their farking minds.

But every single right wing 'best seller' is gamed.

And the New York Times still puts it on their list for these assholes to brag about.
 
2021-09-14 6:43:43 PM  

jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.


By which you mean Republicans who buy her book and frantically masturbate over it while sobbing?
 
2021-09-14 6:49:20 PM  

Pocket Ninja: flondrix: Since her collaborator's name appears on the cover, I believe she should be referred to as a "writer" without the "ghost" qualifer.

I had not seen the cover. You are correct. I shouldn't have assumed, but politicians who actually acknowledge the person who made their book readable are a rare breed. I should have known better with her.


You are still free to make snarky comments about how the name of the "collaborator" who actually wrote the book appears in a font 40% of the size of the name of the person who didn't write the book.
 
2021-09-14 6:56:42 PM  

espiaboricua: jjorsett: 9500 sold, huh? I would have thought there'd be way more people into self-abuse than that.

She didn't have the DNC buy thousands of copies of the book to give away in exchange of donations... unlike some people.


Th@T juSt meaNS I'm SMArT
 
2021-09-14 7:50:44 PM  
Scandalous.
 
2021-09-14 8:23:33 PM  
Corvus:

I do not know the details.

You make that abundantly clear every time you hit "Add Comment".
 
2021-09-14 9:26:19 PM  

flondrix: As for royalty payments, typically an author doesn't earn them until any advance is paid off. Sales figures for Omar's book make it appear unlikely she reached that threshold by the end of 2020. Published that May, Omar's memoir has sold 9,500 print copies in the United States through last week, according to NPD BookScan, an industry data service.

In fact, most books do not earn out their advance.  This is not unusual at all.

Pocket Ninja: Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Since her collaborator's name appears on the cover, I believe she should be referred to as a "writer" without the "ghost" qualifer.

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/Apropos of nothing whatsoever, she's hawt.


If the hair wrap is supposed to keep me from wanting to touch myself, it isn't working.
 
2021-09-14 9:43:59 PM  
Maybe they could focus on the members of Congress that dumped billions of stock before news of covid 19 instead?  This is like squashing a termite when Mothra is about to squash you.
 
2021-09-14 9:48:24 PM  

gaspode: Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Maybe she wasn't in it for the money at all and actually means all the stuff she says?


Of course it wasn't for the money, it was for the self-promotion.
 
2021-09-14 10:44:51 PM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: gaspode: Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Maybe she wasn't in it for the money at all and actually means all the stuff she says?

Of course it wasn't for the money, it was for the self-promotion.


And if it is not that then what will you come up with to decide she did wrong next? I assume it is turtles all the way down for you?
 
2021-09-14 11:44:18 PM  

gaspode: StatelyGreekAutomaton: gaspode: Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Maybe she wasn't in it for the money at all and actually means all the stuff she says?

Of course it wasn't for the money, it was for the self-promotion.

And if it is not that then what will you come up with to decide she did wrong next? I assume it is turtles all the way down for you?


Is there such a thing as a politician that does not promote themselves heavily?

I'm referring only to politicians that got elected, obvously.  I'm sure there are plenty of losers who failed to promote themselves.
 
2021-09-14 11:55:27 PM  

flondrix: gaspode: StatelyGreekAutomaton: gaspode: Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Maybe she wasn't in it for the money at all and actually means all the stuff she says?

Of course it wasn't for the money, it was for the self-promotion.

And if it is not that then what will you come up with to decide she did wrong next? I assume it is turtles all the way down for you?

Is there such a thing as a politician that does not promote themselves heavily?

I'm referring only to politicians that got elected, obvously.  I'm sure there are plenty of losers who failed to promote themselves.


Sure but the idea that self-promotion is the purpose in all they do is cynical crap. It can be but there are people who are in it for the result not personal gain or status.
 
2021-09-15 12:28:26 AM  

gaspode: StatelyGreekAutomaton: gaspode: Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Maybe she wasn't in it for the money at all and actually means all the stuff she says?

Of course it wasn't for the money, it was for the self-promotion.

And if it is not that then what will you come up with to decide she did wrong next? I assume it is turtles all the way down for you?


I dunno. I can't picture reading an autobiography for anyone that doesn't seem like it's been written for the purposes of self promotion, whether I support that person or not.
 
2021-09-15 12:51:05 AM  
How dare she not make money from her book! That might be the most blatantly un-American thing she has ever done.
 
2021-09-15 7:25:15 AM  
She obviously didn't have major parties or SuperPACs buying copies to make sure it got into the best seller lists.

Buying them from holding companies owned by the author.

You know, like this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/si​laditya​ray/2020/12/04/report-rnc-spent-more-t​han-300000-on-donald-trump-jrs-new-boo​k/?sh=5bf12db46fe7

Report: RNC Spent More Than $300,000 On Donald Trump Jr.'s New Book

According to the report, the RNC's payment of $303,892.47 was made to a company called Pursuit Venture LLC, which lists the President's eldest son as its principal.

Last year, the Republican National Committee had paid $94,800 to buy copies of Trump Jr.'s previous book "Triggered" which had been published by Hachette. The RNC had then toldthe New York Times, that they had managed to nearly raise $1 million through promotions offering signed copies of the book. Unlike his first book, however, Trump Jr.'s decision to self-publish his second book means that he will receive a much large share of the revenue from sales.
 
2021-09-15 4:25:54 PM  

dywed88: Pocket Ninja: "Any advance for the book went to the congresswoman's collaborator and not to the congresswoman (per House Ethics guidelines), and she has not earned any money from the book," says Steve Ross, Omar's agent.

Huh. Interesting. I didn't know House Ethics rules didn't allow advance payments for books. I'm surprised she didn't negotiate a lower advance in order to not have quite so much to earn back before she could start receiving royalties. Either she was feeling very generous toward her ghost writer, or her agent didn't do a very good job of explaining payment structures.

Maybe they did agree to a lower advance than she could have. The $100,000 might be what the co-author expected to receive regardless of Omar.


It's not unheard of. Ghostwriters get between $1 and $4 per word, typically higher for higher profile people. If her ghostwriter was instead a credited collaborator that fee would have come down if their name was on the book.
 
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