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2021-09-14 7:54:10 AM  
farking told you so.

Not a vegan.

Happy Tuesday.
 
2021-09-14 7:57:11 AM  
Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.
 
2021-09-14 8:08:33 AM  
The hotdog-heavy portfolio is paying off for this savvy investor.
 
2021-09-14 8:10:03 AM  
Vegans + More Smug = divide by zero
 
2021-09-14 8:13:22 AM  
Meat should be really expensive.
Meat should be prohibitively priced.

/meat-eater
 
2021-09-14 8:21:42 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.


There's also a major supply shortage we're facing too. COVID punched a lot of holes in the global supply chain
 
2021-09-14 8:27:29 AM  

somedude210: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.

There's also a major supply shortage we're facing too. COVID punched a lot of holes in the global supply chain


I think that's more a problem than interest rates.  Remember last year when cows and pigs were left to die because they couldn't be brought to market?  That's caught up with us.
 
2021-09-14 8:37:20 AM  
I just paid $50 for a week of fresh veg.  That's more than half my monthly food budget on fresh veggies.  The price of vegetables is too damned high!
 
2021-09-14 8:37:34 AM  
The jump in meat prices has helped send inflation to a near 13-year high. And the White House is responding by shining a spotlight on "Big Meat,"

We're getting screwed by Big Meat!
 
2021-09-14 8:38:26 AM  

somedude210: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.

There's also a major supply shortage we're facing too. COVID punched a lot of holes in the global supply chain


There's a lot of stuff going on all at the same time. You have MASSIVE liquidity pumped in, like $10 trillion... Most of which went right into the equity markets... Interest rates are insanely low... so you combine liquidity with low interest rates and you have an INSANE property bubble inflated... Everyone is cool with it because "the fundamentals are sound." But those fundamentals won't be sound when interest rates begin their tick higher and no one is going to be able to stop their increase once they get going. That will cause a correction in all that other stuff and, as usual take everything else with it.

THEN you factor in all the inflation caused by a supply chain that is totally FUBAR... Food, autos, electronics, chips, all that crap.

We're facing a perfect storm and everyone is just happier than a pig in sh*t because everyone is up like 2-3-4-500% on everything.

I'm just trying to get chicken for the week without breaking the bank and these assholes just keep propping it all up with artificially low interest rates.

Ain't gonna last forever.
 
2021-09-14 8:40:06 AM  
Every time I've purchased cheap meat, I've been disappointed.  Cheap chicken is all water.  Cheap pork is injected with brine.  Those Gwaltney hot dogs are like a meat flavored sponge.  Cheap ground beef has bits of bone in it.

I cast a side eye at any low price meat.
 
2021-09-14 9:02:49 AM  
OK, that sounds a lot crazier than it did before this cup of coffee.
 
2021-09-14 9:05:00 AM  
I'm buying direct from the source and the prices haven't changed much.
 
2021-09-14 9:18:53 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Every time I've purchased cheap meat, I've been disappointed.  Cheap chicken is all water.  Cheap pork is injected with brine.  Those Gwaltney hot dogs are like a meat flavored sponge.  Cheap ground beef has bits of bone in it.

I cast a side eye at any low price meat.


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2021-09-14 9:26:10 AM  
Really glad I have half a 4H cow in my freezer. His name was Harry, and he's very tender.
 
2021-09-14 9:42:42 AM  
Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.
 
2021-09-14 9:45:11 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Rapmaster2000: Every time I've purchased cheap meat, I've been disappointed.  Cheap chicken is all water.  Cheap pork is injected with brine.  Those Gwaltney hot dogs are like a meat flavored sponge.  Cheap ground beef has bits of bone in it.

I cast a side eye at any low price meat.

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Oh, stomach churning...bowels clenching...not much time...must finish.
 
2021-09-14 9:53:21 AM  

Rapmaster2000: The Googles Do Nothing: Rapmaster2000: Every time I've purchased cheap meat, I've been disappointed.  Cheap chicken is all water.  Cheap pork is injected with brine.  Those Gwaltney hot dogs are like a meat flavored sponge.  Cheap ground beef has bits of bone in it.

I cast a side eye at any low price meat.

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Oh, stomach churning...bowels clenching...not much time...must finish.


Pretty much describes my life when I was in my 20s.
 
2021-09-14 9:56:46 AM  
Umm, high everything prices are fueling inflation.
 
2021-09-14 10:22:26 AM  
"Everybody's desperate, tryin' to make ends meet
Work all day, still can't pay the price of gasoline and meat
Alas, their lives are incomplete"

Warren Zevon and Jackson Browne - Mohammed's Radio - Live 1976 (HD)
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2021-09-14 10:23:46 AM  
I'm tempted, actually.  The best meal I had recently that didn't cause me to feel absolutely bloated was a delicious salad and flatbread from the botanical garden in Des Moines.  A shame I don't know how to keep vegetables long-term or that salad recipe.
 
2021-09-14 10:24:31 AM  
In these socially divisive times, I make a point in avoiding large, public urinals.
Who needs the confrontational hassle?
 
2021-09-14 10:25:31 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.


You might also address the fact that Congress and the President are printing money like crazy.

And no, I'm under no delusion that Republicans are fiscal conservatives anywhere but the campaign trail, so spare me the kneejerk partisan whataboutism.
 
2021-09-14 10:27:03 AM  

FLMountainMan: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.

You might also address the fact that Congress and the President are printing money like crazy.

And no, I'm under no delusion that Republicans are fiscal conservatives anywhere but the campaign trail, so spare me the kneejerk partisan whataboutism.


I didn't read your second post.  My apologies.
 
2021-09-14 10:51:29 AM  

gnosis301: I'm tempted, actually.  The best meal I had recently that didn't cause me to feel absolutely bloated was a delicious salad and flatbread from the botanical garden in Des Moines.  A shame I don't know how to keep vegetables long-term or that salad recipe.


The tomatoes at the market yesterday were cheaper than Ive seen in about 2 years. You have to get there early, though. All the babushkas and abulas are absolute pro's at picking out the really good ones from the pile.
 
2021-09-14 11:06:51 AM  

educated: Meat should be really expensive.
Meat should be prohibitively priced.

/meat-eater


Meat should not be prohibitively priced - it should be priced according to its cost including all the externalities. (Which would make it prohibitive.)

Ker_Thwap: I just paid $50 for a week of fresh veg.  That's more than half my monthly food budget on fresh veggies.  The price of vegetables is too damned high!


And holy hell, this. Corn subsidies need to die or maybe funnel some of those dollars toward crops that are actually nutritious.
 
2021-09-14 11:16:06 AM  

Phil McKraken: The jump in meat prices has helped send inflation to a near 13-year high. And the White House is responding by shining a spotlight on "Big Meat,"

We're getting screwed by Big Meat!


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No, thank you. Fifteen is my limit on schnitzengruben
 
2021-09-14 11:24:28 AM  

jso2897: In these socially divisive times, I make a point in avoiding large, public urinals.
Who needs the confrontational hassle?


you're being disingenuous, Vegans know how to socially distance.
 
2021-09-14 11:31:57 AM  
In my experience, the good cuts of beef were pretty damned pricey before Covid. The cheap cuts and ground have gone up, but nothing astronomical on a per time basis if you're trying to limit your beef consumption anyway.

Lamb and pork have gone way up and stayed there, and all but the shiattiest fish (things extremely high in mercury and farking tilapia) are a good 30% more expensive now.

Chicken has largely remained unchanged, and I'm still routinely getting packs of thighs (boneless and bone-in, depending on sales) in the $1.50-$2.50/lb range.

And extra firm, high protein tofu is $1.75/lb.

Fruit and veggies have gone up very slightly, but I can still get a week's worth of heavy produce use for 2 people (4-5 servings of fresh fruit per day, stuff to make a somewhat elaborate multi-serving salad, and plenty of veggies for stir fries, one pot meals, and sides) for about $40.
 
2021-09-14 11:32:41 AM  
After the Wiener Schnitzel thread, I wanted to get some veal. Publix used to have frozen breaded patties. That frozen food section now has the incredible meat stuff. I found this that seems quite reasonable:

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2021-09-14 12:21:37 PM  
Time to hand out go passes at the border.
 
2021-09-14 2:18:22 PM  

NewportBarGuy: But those fundamentals won't be sound when interest rates begin their tick higher and no one is going to be able to stop their increase once they get going.


The Fed sets interest rates. They don't just rise on their own. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
 
2021-09-14 2:26:05 PM  

CCNP: NewportBarGuy: But those fundamentals won't be sound when interest rates begin their tick higher and no one is going to be able to stop their increase once they get going.

The Fed sets interest rates. They don't just rise on their own. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.


The fed does NOT set interest rates... they set the fed funds rate.

Everyone is going to get a lesson on the difference in that sometime soon.
 
2021-09-14 2:27:51 PM  

eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.


With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.
 
2021-09-14 2:44:30 PM  

NewportBarGuy: CCNP: NewportBarGuy: But those fundamentals won't be sound when interest rates begin their tick higher and no one is going to be able to stop their increase once they get going.

The Fed sets interest rates. They don't just rise on their own. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

The fed does NOT set interest rates... they set the fed funds rate.

Everyone is going to get a lesson on the difference in that sometime soon.


The Fed is the source of funds for the banks. Banks mark it up a few points, and then loan the money out. Now of course a bank can unilaterally raise all of it's rates to 20%, but they won't make very many loans if a competing bank has a lower rate. You can pretend that this chart is just a coincidence if you want.
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2021-09-14 2:56:12 PM  
grain and feed prices are way up so expect to see a glut of cheap beef later this year.  stock up and eat well.
 
2021-09-14 3:00:40 PM  

SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.


Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.
 
2021-09-14 3:12:40 PM  

eyeq360: SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.

Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.


citation needed that any vegetable/fungus products have more cholesterol than meat.
 
2021-09-14 3:15:16 PM  

eyeq360: SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.

Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.


The impossible burger and it's ilk are not.
 
2021-09-14 3:17:12 PM  

Bukharin: eyeq360: SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.

Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.

citation needed that any vegetable/fungus products have more cholesterol than meat.


I goofed. Impossible burger is higher in calories, sodium, and fat .
It is way lower in cholesterol.

https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition​/​is-the-impossible-burger-healthier-tha​n-beef/
 
2021-09-14 3:29:50 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: educated: Meat should be really expensive.
Meat should be prohibitively priced.

/meat-eater

Meat should not be prohibitively priced - it should be priced according to its cost including all the externalities. (Which would make it prohibitive.)


That's exactly what I meant but was too lazy to type out.
Thanks :)
 
2021-09-14 3:37:10 PM  

SpectroBoy: Bukharin: eyeq360: SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.

Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.

citation needed that any vegetable/fungus products have more cholesterol than meat.

I goofed. Impossible burger is higher in calories, sodium, and fat .
It is way lower in cholesterol.

https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition/​is-the-impossible-burger-healthier-tha​n-beef/


So, except for sodium "The 4-ounce Impossible Burger 2.0 comes pretty close to beef, nutritionally" as per your link. Cool. I'd look for a lower-sodium company myself, but that's great news for vegetarians who need a quick sandwich.
 
2021-09-14 3:56:05 PM  

Bukharin: SpectroBoy: Bukharin: eyeq360: SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.

Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.

citation needed that any vegetable/fungus products have more cholesterol than meat.

I goofed. Impossible burger is higher in calories, sodium, and fat .
It is way lower in cholesterol.

https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition/​is-the-impossible-burger-healthier-tha​n-beef/

So, except for sodium "The 4-ounce Impossible Burger 2.0 comes pretty close to beef, nutritionally" as per your link. Cool. I'd look for a lower-sodium company myself, but that's great news for vegetarians who need a quick sandwich.


Now full disclosure: I've never tried an impossible burger, but their latest iteration really isn't that crazy in terms of salt. It's about the equivalent of adding 1/2 tsp table salt per lb if you were seasoning your own beef burger.

I mean hell, I actively limit my daily sodium intake and still do about 1000 mg/lb (~1/2 tsp coarse kosher salt). 1480 mg/lb is pretty damn reasonable for a "ready to cook and eat" product.

If you're comparing the IP burger to the sodium in unseasoned beef, well...I dunno what to say. You either have cause to be restricting your sodium a hell of a lot more than I am, or you just like bland-ass burgers.

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2021-09-14 5:17:42 PM  

Bukharin: SpectroBoy: Bukharin: eyeq360: SpectroBoy: eyeq360: Vegans must be so smug since they're getting their highly processed fake meat at truly bargain prices. Much less than actual meat per pound.

With more fat, calories, and cholesterol.

Much genius. So health.

Yet it's somehow still healthier than meat. Truly baffling.

citation needed that any vegetable/fungus products have more cholesterol than meat.

I goofed. Impossible burger is higher in calories, sodium, and fat .
It is way lower in cholesterol.

https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition/​is-the-impossible-burger-healthier-tha​n-beef/

So, except for sodium "The 4-ounce Impossible Burger 2.0 comes pretty close to beef, nutritionally" as per your link. Cool. I'd look for a lower-sodium company myself, but that's great news for vegetarians who need a quick sandwich.


I tried the impossible burger a couple of times. It is pretty tasty and pretty close to beef.
 
2021-09-14 5:37:39 PM  
Tiny plug for Quorn.
 
2021-09-14 8:01:03 PM  

educated: Tiny plug for Quorn.


Very tiny. The only way they make that shiat palatable is by loading it down with enough salt that you can't taste the rest of it.
 
2021-09-15 2:07:34 AM  
FLMountainMan:

You might also address the fact that Congress and the President are printing money like crazy.


Well, when you have a couple of Billionaire-Dragon-Hoarding-Lizard-Peo​ple hanging on to as much circulated cash as physically/digitally possible...  The options become Inflation, or reduced availability in circulation.

These "genius" wealthy are making everyone's money worth less, because they want to hoard it all, and not pay their workers a living wage.

WRT meat/less products - we climbed the food chain with cunning and craft, and will remain there so long as those traits persist.  We are omnivores, and need a mixture of foods to stay healthy.  Your dogs?  Also omnivores, and forcing them vegan can make them ill.  Cats?  OBLIGATE carnivores, keep your vegan nonsense to yourself.  If you prefer/enjoy the Audrey II Burger or whatever, cool - enjoy.  Eat what you like.

If you want "the market" to have less meat in it, then release the farmed animals and remove the King's Limitations on hunting game for the people that still choose to eat meat.
 
2021-09-15 6:22:40 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Yeah, it's getting painful at the grocery store, gas pump and pretty much everywhere.

I'd just like to thank Fed Chairman Powell and his word of the year "TRANSITORY".

F*ck you asshole. Raise interests rates you goddamn doormat.


I mean... now that I've refinanced well below 3%.  Sure, crank those interest rates up!  

I can't really comment too much for food - I don't pay enough attention to the prices to notice much.  If I bought the same things every week, in the exact same quantity, maybe. CPI lists the food at home inflation as 3% over the last 12 months. I don't know about you, but a $3 increase per $100 grocery bill that crept up over the last 12 months is lost in the noise. 

For gasoline... it's bouncing around between $2 and $4 like it has for the last 16 years. 
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Given that most people keep a car for around six years (71.4 mos), that's over 3 consecutive car purchases.  At this point, whatever car you own right now, you bought it with the assumption that you'd be putting gasoline priced between $2-4 in it.  Given how much fuel economy has increased over the last 10-15 years, and normal annual inflation over those years, $3/gal gasoline is far more bearable today than it was in 2006 or 2013.

Personal observation: I usually don't pay much attention at the pump (what, am I going to just walk instead?) but I definitely paid $2.99/gal for gasoline today.  That was in the greater D.C. area, not Methville, Indiana. 

Another data point: historical inflation rates:
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So... Not really sure what you're going on about. Yes, it's worth watching, because if left uncontrolled for years it could add up, but... It's not painful... it's barely noticeable.
 
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