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2021-09-14 1:45:55 PM  
9 votes:
I will always have profound respect for the fact I have clean potable water every day.
 
2021-09-14 2:12:07 PM  
8 votes:

FleshFlapps: I will always have profound respect for the fact I have clean potable water every day.


Because of landlord ineptitude, I am on my 8th day without hot water. I now have nothing but servile gratitude for the concept of hot water.
Tried the rental authority and nothing can be done in a timely effective manner.
Then I called the city on sunday.
Monday morning I got confirmation at 9 am by the city's building inspector that a registered letter had been sent to the landlord (I think a call was also made). 15 minutes later i received a call from a plumber.
We don't live in a perfect system but it sure as fu*k beats Africa's.
Never stop appreciating what you have.
 
2021-09-14 2:03:31 PM  
8 votes:

GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.


You've got to piss with the cock you got.

Many African nations have had long brutal tribal wars and unreliable governments that are more interested in power over the people than a strong nation. They teach people fear of western ideas and do little to educate people with facts.

Even then, much of Africa is rural in a way that makes rural living as we know it look high class modern. There has been monumental effort to help, but governments, or militaristic armies work to hinder the progress.
 
2021-09-14 2:16:45 PM  
7 votes:

GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.


Corruption in the developing world.  It's not the only factor for sure but it's a major one.  If the politicians are too busy looting the national treasury or funds earmarked for infrastructure, well that's that.
 
2021-09-14 2:31:04 PM  
6 votes:

FleshFlapps: I will always have profound respect for the fact I have clean potable water every day.


Thank you for that perspective.
Reading it made me "fall on my face in thanks" (prostrating)

I've been to countries of lessor means. Nigeria still haunts me in how devoid of hope the people felt. I've been to impoverished parts of Thailand and India, they didn't have that feeling of glumness that the Nigerians had.
And this is a relatively wealthy and large country in Africa.
The wealth gap AND the quality of life gap are huge.
Many people had to work long jobs, hitchhike a ride home, in intervals, barely to get enough sleep to come back the next day the same way, early morning.
 
2021-09-14 1:53:21 PM  
5 votes:
Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.
 
2021-09-14 1:45:56 PM  
4 votes:
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Cholera epidemics are so romantic. Nothing quite like declaring your love for another while shiatting your pants until you die
 
2021-09-14 2:40:08 PM  
3 votes:

SirEattonHogg: GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.

Corruption in the developing world.  It's not the only factor for sure but it's a major one.  If the politicians are too busy looting the national treasury or funds earmarked for infrastructure, well that's that.


In some cultures, it's perfectly fine to poop in the street and walk on.  If you ask them whet they want, it's not sanitation, it's places to charge their cell phones and better cell phone reception.

In some parts of Kentucky, I have witnessed first hand public urination in front of others and it's perfectly okay.  Never saw a Kentuckian droop a duece in the front yard, but I never went to everywhere in Kentucky.
 
2021-09-14 2:14:36 PM  
3 votes:

GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.


This doesnt require an answer, this requires a series of lectures about the ravages of imperialism.
Guns germs and steel is a pretty good book on the root causes.
 
2021-09-14 6:53:24 PM  
2 votes:

dothemath: bababa: That girl in particular is probably a slave.

Come again now, Charles...?

You ran the wagon over that child slave thing pretty darn quick.


It is very common for wealthier families in Nigeria to have house boys and house girls. These are children from rural areas (or poor urban areas) who are sent to cities to do domestic work. You can get them from agents. The agents will be paid. The parents aren't. Sometimes it is a private arrangement where parents can't afford to raise a child, so send them to a family member to work. The children are supposed to be sent to school, but often are not. Again, they are supposed to get some money once they are 18 or so to start a small business, but often that doesn't happen either.
The children are not paid. They can be as young as three. At that age the families are just training them to obey, to go fetch things and so on.
The first house girl I knew was 7. She was distantly related to the family. They had a store and small beer garden. She washed the dishes, served beer, took care of the owner's grandchild, ran errands, and cleaned. She was sent to school.
 
2021-09-14 4:10:51 PM  
2 votes:
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An example of a typical house in a village in Nigeria, in Anambra state, to contrast with the photo in the article. Note that no basic services are provided by the government. The house has a septic tank. It gets water from a well. If we want electricity, we have to use a generator. The roads aren't paved. However, it is clean, and barefoot children are not wading through sewage.
This area would be considered much poorer than Abuja.
 
2021-09-14 5:19:35 PM  
1 vote:

frankb00th: GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.

This doesnt require an answer, this requires a series of lectures about the ravages of imperialism.
Guns germs and steel is a pretty good book on the root causes.


These places have had the better part of a century to turn things around, yet nothing changes. It's still warlords and cholera everywhere you look. IMO we should give them clean energy infrastructure and prevent the Chinese from exploiting them, but otherwise stay out of Africa. It's up to them to want change.
 
2021-09-14 3:11:26 PM  
1 vote:
If only there were a vaccine!

Oh, wait... there is.  I got a booster shot of it a few months ago before traveling to a different part of Africa for a family wedding.  And in the past, I've had the oral one.  It lasts for a few years, if I recall.

But... even with the WHO stockpiling it, it's still somewhere between $2 and $10 per person vaccinated.  And Nigeria's got a bit over 200 million residents, and a vaccine costs as much as a day's pay for the average person, to say nothing of the dirt-poor slum dwellers who don't have formal employment or proper sanitation and are thus most likely to get it.  That picture at the top of TFA looks pretty similar to the stream that flows through the slum near my in-laws' house.

But anyway, a Jeff Bezos type could dig between his couch cushions and come up with enough money to treat every person in Nigeria with a cholera vaccine every few years... if he wanted to.  Just sayin'.
 
2021-09-14 3:04:43 PM  
1 vote:

GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.


To maintain modern infrastructure takes a lot of stability: stability in terms of physical security, stability in government, stability of finance, stability of trade, and stability of weather (a lot of what we call "developing" countries are particularly susceptible to monsoons and earthquakes), plus a few other things that I'm not thinking of. Nigeria in particular has had something like half a dozen coups since its founding, a civil war, and an ongoing insurgency, and with a record like that it's tough to get financing for major works like that.
 
2021-09-14 3:04:23 PM  
1 vote:

FleshFlapps: GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.

You've got to piss with the cock you got.

Many African nations have had long brutal tribal wars and unreliable governments that are more interested in power over the people than a strong nation. They teach people fear of western ideas and do little to educate people with facts.

Even then, much of Africa is rural in a way that makes rural living as we know it look high class modern. There has been monumental effort to help, but governments, or militaristic armies work to hinder the progress.


Nigeria isn't "most African nations".  It is basically a Gulf nation in Africa instead of the Middle East, and I don't think anyone can afford to challenge the kleptocrats militarily.  There just isn't anything in it for the kleptocrats to provide clean water, so they don't.

When their most famous exports are scams, you'd expect them to be up with Somalia in terms of Libertarian paradises.  But if any nation exemplified the "resource curse", it is Nigeria.
 
2021-09-14 2:57:56 PM  
1 vote:

Harry Freakstorm: I have witnessed first hand public urination


Your exotic tales I fear are too bold for my enfeebled heart.
 
2021-09-14 2:55:22 PM  
1 vote:
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"The black shiats!"
 
2021-09-14 2:42:07 PM  
1 vote:

GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.


It's at least partially an illusion. The areas where everything is fine do not make the news outside Africa. "Here's a middleclass neighbourhood. Nothing happens here" does not sell.

Heh, the same works for the USA. According to our news reports, good old USA is
- New York == glass skyscrapers (often attacked by terrorists)
- the Capitol (often attacked by Trump supporters or burnt by the British)
- California == dry forests, usually on fire
- Appalachia == men and monsters, impossible to tell apart

with everything in between being a sea of Florida man, trailer parks destroyed by hurricanes, and no-knock raids.
 
2021-09-14 2:39:37 PM  
1 vote:

GreenSun: Serious question. How come countries in Africa seem to have modernization problems? The picture in the article shows people walking barefoot around fresh yucky sewage water and pipes. What's up with that? I've been watching National Geographic since the 80s and nothing really seems to have changed, except people have cellphones now.

This lack of modernization is something that definitely contributes to all sorts of health problems they have. Dirty, unhygienic place means you can get sick very easily. Where are the proper roads and sewage system? Why are people walking barefoot, when in other countries even the poorest people at least have slippers/flipflops? What about basic health education? Doesn't anybody teach them that sewer water is bad? You don't need beautiful buildings or art installments to be truly modern. You at least need to have the basics of what a city needs to provide clean water and services to people.


Pee-brained officials who are happy to get a small piece of the pie rather than grow the pie and get a much, much larger slice.

/no, that wasn't spelling mistake
/yes, it might be a reference
/similarities are there
 
2021-09-14 1:55:51 PM  
1 vote:
Shiat! I hope its not too bad.. The prince owes me money.
 
2021-09-14 1:49:42 PM  
1 vote:

kbronsito: [images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com image 850x1144]
Cholera epidemics are so romantic. Nothing quite like declaring your love for another while shiatting your pants until you die


It's always more romantic WITHOUT pants.
 
2021-09-14 1:47:31 PM  
1 vote:
cholera sounds like something served with cheese sauce during Thanksgiving
 
2021-09-14 9:59:31 AM  
1 vote:
It's like real-life Oregon Trail.
 
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