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2021-09-14 12:00:11 AM  
So, something actually happened
 
2021-09-14 2:09:50 AM  
Good.  Rot in there, you racist scum.
 
2021-09-14 2:45:08 AM  
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2021-09-14 4:11:51 AM  
What are the betting odds on him converting to Islam in less than a year to get better chow up in the big house?
 
2021-09-14 4:59:58 AM  
"I'm transgender"

Oh neat! I certainly hope no one denies you hormone therapy and affirming healthcare like you tried to do for so many others with your support of these monsters.
 
2021-09-14 6:45:42 AM  
And Twice Impeached Guy STILL HASN'T MENTIONED THE ATTACK.
 
2021-09-14 6:55:38 AM  
He appears to be lacking any redeemable qualities whatsoever.
 
2021-09-14 6:56:00 AM  

mofa: And Twice Impeached Guy STILL HASN'T MENTIONED THE ATTACK.


He supports it
 
2021-09-14 7:43:37 AM  
good!
 
2021-09-14 7:45:24 AM  
She's stunning and brave!
 
2021-09-14 7:47:40 AM  
"Diversity is the strength of this country," Frank said. "Anyone who doesn't understand that doesn't understand the constitutional promise of this country that brings a lot of people here."

Why do I have the feeling the judge is not a Republican?
 
2021-09-14 7:50:04 AM  
Good. Serve the full time.
 
2021-09-14 7:50:51 AM  
It's a start anyway.
 
2021-09-14 7:55:05 AM  
Precious bodily fluids?

/obscure
 
2021-09-14 7:59:02 AM  
This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.
 
2021-09-14 8:01:52 AM  

redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.


Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.
 
2021-09-14 8:03:16 AM  

Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.


Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?
 
2021-09-14 8:04:08 AM  
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
2021-09-14 8:04:35 AM  
Me, reading Subby's headline:  No way, they actually threw the word Terrorist at some white people!?

Me, reading the article: "Illinois anti-government militia group"


...

Well, they at least used the WORD terror in the article... and basically gave both the legal and text book definitions of terrorism.

At least this "father figure" and now woman will be held accountable for their(?) Crimes?

/I was a different man then
//I'm a changed woman now

///sorry, ish
 
2021-09-14 8:05:02 AM  

redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.


The Republicans warned us this would happen!
 
2021-09-14 8:05:57 AM  
"Anything less than 636 months would (be) disrespect to the law," the judge added.

You couldn't add the extra 30 months there judge?

/I keed.
 
2021-09-14 8:06:52 AM  

Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.


Yes, a guy convicted of bombing a religious center is EXACTLY like a law-abiding citizen who has to pee.
 
2021-09-14 8:09:20 AM  

mofa: And Twice Impeached Guy STILL HASN'T MENTIONED THE ATTACK.


He's planning more
 
2021-09-14 8:09:37 AM  

Laobaojun: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Yes, a guy convicted of bombing a religious center is EXACTLY like a law-abiding citizen who has to pee.


Not in this chain, and I might just be being hopeful here, but maybe in addendum instead of replacing would make more sense here... "prison bathroom"

My 2 cents?  Keep the individual in solitary until they either withdraw the claim, or have the reassignment surgery so the parts match the claim.
 
2021-09-14 8:09:43 AM  

vudukungfu: mofa: And Twice Impeached Guy STILL HASN'T MENTIONED THE ATTACK.

He supports it


Good people...  No wait...   Bad people on both sides.  The bomber... bad.   The guys that built the mosque.  Bad.  Should have made it bomb proof.
 
2021-09-14 8:12:49 AM  

redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.


That was my first thought when reading it (or hoping that he can overpower the guard's one the female side and escape)

But there seem to have been quite a few transgender people who join the military (maybe to prove themselves as being able to do macho things, or denial of their feminine side?) and there are also quite a few who commit crimes.  Could this because they don't feel like they're really a part of society, and thus it's more difficult for them to follow the rules of society when they know society's rules are there to deny that they're valid people and keep them miserable?

(I suspect that much of the 'black crime' is this, too.... When people realize that they're being sold lies about how you just have to work hard and pull yourself up, but they're knocked down when they're seen as 'uppity' for trying to actually do it)

Or maybe there's no correlation, and we just notice / remember people who are different from society's norms more, so it seems like there are a lot of trans criminals?   (Or they do a better job blending in than we give them credit, so there's a higher proportion of transgender people than we realize?)

I think this would be a useful thing to study.... But at the same time, suspect that trans people wouldn't want to be studied for this, as it would be twisted into 'trans people bad' by so-called conservatives
 
2021-09-14 8:14:06 AM  

redsquid: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?


I'm just saying you need to take a step back before:
1. Accusing them of making this up.
2. Wishing they were beat up by other inmates.

People were saying the same thing of Chelsea Manning.  It wasn't ok then, and it isn't ok, now.

This being said, did Hari's attorney try to use gender dysphoria as a defence?  Absolutely.  And they rightfully got called on it.

But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.
 
2021-09-14 8:14:48 AM  
"anti-government militia group?" What happened to "insurrectionist mob?"

*whisper whisper*

Oh, white. I mean, oh, right.
 
2021-09-14 8:16:21 AM  

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I'm ordinarily a connoisseur of facial hair but I am genuinely perplexed by what this oaf is doing with his face.
 
2021-09-14 8:18:00 AM  
Emily Claire Hari, who was charged, tried and convicted under the name Michael Hari ...

Shoulda went with Carrie as the new first name.
 
2021-09-14 8:20:08 AM  

Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?

I'm just saying you need to take a step back before:
1. Accusing them of making this up.
2. Wishing they were beat up by other inmates.

People were saying the same thing of Chelsea Manning.  It wasn't ok then, and it isn't ok, now.

This being said, did Hari's attorney try to use gender dysphoria as a defence?  Absolutely.  And they rightfully got called on it.

But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.


This man is a terrorist and a misogynist. I have no time to waste speculating on his inner turmoil. He's trying to game the system and until we have a better metric than "I'm a woman because I say so" we need to be really careful about putting the claims of violent men over the safety of incarcerated women.
 
2021-09-14 8:20:17 AM  
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Elon Musk is looking a little worse for wear
 
2021-09-14 8:27:45 AM  

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Elon Musk is looking a little worse for wear


Elon Musky
 
2021-09-14 8:39:21 AM  
That dude is as much a woman as I am. And I'm not.

And he's as sincere about his religion as I am. And I'm not.

Enjoy dying in prison you scum.
 
2021-09-14 8:40:56 AM  
One down, 74 million to go...
 
2021-09-14 8:44:25 AM  
behold the master waist
 
2021-09-14 8:51:22 AM  
fark this guy. He doesn't like some religion? That's fine. Normal people just disagree, not blow shiat up. He is a disgrace to our country. And why does he have to bring his religion into sentencing? That's just assinine.
 
2021-09-14 8:54:08 AM  

redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.


I would smart this post but I'm afraid I'd get banned.
 
2021-09-14 8:54:20 AM  
Violent, racist sh*tbag is 50 years old. Sentence is 53 years. Congrats folks- if parole is taken off the table, you got the life sentence you were hoping for.
 
2021-09-14 8:57:25 AM  
Not harsh enough.
 
2021-09-14 9:04:06 AM  

redsquid: Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?

I'm just saying you need to take a step back before:
1. Accusing them of making this up.
2. Wishing they were beat up by other inmates.

People were saying the same thing of Chelsea Manning.  It wasn't ok then, and it isn't ok, now.

This being said, did Hari's attorney try to use gender dysphoria as a defence?  Absolutely.  And they rightfully got called on it.

But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.

This man is a terrorist and a misogynist. I have no time to waste speculating on his inner turmoil. He's trying to game the system and until we have a better metric than "I'm a woman because I say so" we need to be really careful about putting the claims of violent men over the safety of incarcerated women.


I never said anything about putting Hari's safety above that of other inmates.
 
2021-09-14 9:04:52 AM  

macadamnut: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

I would smart this post but I'm afraid I'd get banned.


The majority see through the bullshiat but are afraid to say anything.
 
2021-09-14 9:09:03 AM  

Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?

I'm just saying you need to take a step back before:
1. Accusing them of making this up.
2. Wishing they were beat up by other inmates.

People were saying the same thing of Chelsea Manning.  It wasn't ok then, and it isn't ok, now.

This being said, did Hari's attorney try to use gender dysphoria as a defence?  Absolutely.  And they rightfully got called on it.

But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.

This man is a terrorist and a misogynist. I have no time to waste speculating on his inner turmoil. He's trying to game the system and until we have a better metric than "I'm a woman because I say so" we need to be really careful about putting the claims of violent men over the safety of incarcerated women.

I never said anything about putting Hari's safety above that of other inmates.


His "gender identity" is nothing but a ploy to go to a women's prison where he imagines he will be safer. Playing along with this puts women at risk.
 
2021-09-14 9:09:17 AM  

Flab: But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.


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2021-09-14 9:10:04 AM  
The Master Race continues to send their best.
 
2021-09-14 9:14:26 AM  
I saw his picture and then saw the word "mastermind" and had a momentary short circuit of my frontal synapses.
 
2021-09-14 9:24:45 AM  

redsquid: Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?

I'm just saying you need to take a step back before:
1. Accusing them of making this up.
2. Wishing they were beat up by other inmates.

People were saying the same thing of Chelsea Manning.  It wasn't ok then, and it isn't ok, now.

This being said, did Hari's attorney try to use gender dysphoria as a defence?  Absolutely.  And they rightfully got called on it.

But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.

This man is a terrorist and a misogynist. I have no time to waste speculating on his inner turmoil. He's trying to game the system and until we have a better metric than "I'm a woman because I say so" we need to be really careful about putting the claims of violent men over the safety of incarcerated women.

I never said anything about putting Hari's safety above that of other inmates.

His "gender identity" is nothing but a ploy to go to a women's prison where he imagines he will be safer. Playing along with this puts women at risk.


I suspect that he or his lawyer was trying for some ridiculous ploy that by declaring transgender status, liberals would be "conflicted" in how to go about punishing him, because in their mind, liberals "like" Muslims and the LGBT community and they'd have a Sophie's choice scenario.
 
2021-09-14 10:07:58 AM  

JAGChem82: I suspect that he or his lawyer was trying for some ridiculous ploy that by declaring transgender status, liberals would be "conflicted" in how to go about punishing him, because in their mind, liberals "like" Muslims and the LGBT community and they'd have a Sophie's choice scenario.


Or they're trying to claim he's insane, because of course it's insane to want a be a woman in this misogynist country, so he shouldn't go to jail.

I think there was a Law and Order episode where some guy asked for the death penalty, and then his lawyer used that as a reason why he shouldn't be in jail at all, because you had to be insane to want to die

/doesn't remember how the episode ended, though
//also leaning towards this being a scam
///but would still approve of tax payer money being used on gender reassignment surgery
 
2021-09-14 10:10:36 AM  
Later whitey.
 
2021-09-14 10:29:39 AM  

JAGChem82: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: Flab: redsquid: This is not a woman and he has no business in a women's prison. This is a scam to avoid getting his ass kicked by Muslims in a men's prison.

Replace the word prison with the word bathroom and reread your statement.

Why? Those are two different things. Are you defending this transparent bullshiat!?

I'm just saying you need to take a step back before:
1. Accusing them of making this up.
2. Wishing they were beat up by other inmates.

People were saying the same thing of Chelsea Manning.  It wasn't ok then, and it isn't ok, now.

This being said, did Hari's attorney try to use gender dysphoria as a defence?  Absolutely.  And they rightfully got called on it.

But personally, I'll wait until I get more info before making a judgment on this.

This man is a terrorist and a misogynist. I have no time to waste speculating on his inner turmoil. He's trying to game the system and until we have a better metric than "I'm a woman because I say so" we need to be really careful about putting the claims of violent men over the safety of incarcerated women.

I never said anything about putting Hari's safety above that of other inmates.

His "gender identity" is nothing but a ploy to go to a women's prison where he imagines he will be safer. Playing along with this puts women at risk.

I suspect that he or his lawyer was trying for some ridiculous ploy that by declaring transgender status, liberals would be "conflicted" in how to go about punishing him, because in their mind, liberals "like" Muslims and the LGBT community and they'd have a Sophie's choice scenario.


Huh? The choice is whether she dies in a women's prison or a men's prison. Calling it a "Sophie's choice" is more than a bit of a stretch.
 
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