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(Some Guy)   Despite jailing his opponents Putin's United Russia party is not polling well before the election so it's been turned into a price draw for those who vote. Apartments and cars for Putin voter, Novichok cocktails for the rest   (today.rtl.lu) divider line
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2021-09-13 9:46:48 AM  
Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.
 
2021-09-13 11:16:37 AM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.


It's not who votes it's who counts the votes. While Putin won't announce that he won the vote by a North Korean percentage let's be honest with one another here. He is going to announce that he won and the people that he put in charge of tallying the votes will not dare to cross him.
 
2021-09-13 11:18:37 AM  
So, United Russia will win by 98% instead of 99%?
 
2021-09-13 12:16:19 PM  
Fake News, comrades. United Russia will win 68.7% of the vote.
 
2021-09-13 12:23:19 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.


Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.
 
2021-09-13 12:23:25 PM  
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2021-09-13 12:30:31 PM  

lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.


The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.
 
2021-09-13 12:39:25 PM  
What's the over/under on Putin winning?
 
2021-09-13 12:42:35 PM  

lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.

The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.

Its 2021. The world has evolved. Russia has always been a shiat influence on the world. Once its gone, the world will be a better place. Same with China. Hell even the US should be broken up.

Break up the US, China and Russia and the world will be better.


The world has not evolved. Or have you not been paying attention to *everywhere* besides Western Europe and North America.

Belt and Road. Islamic Extremism on the March. Iran meddling in the gulf since BC. Egypt, Turkey, Iran, and Saudi meddling in the "Fertile Crescent" France all over (francophone) Africa. China all over Africa and South America. India and Pakistan (since forever).

The Great Game continues, and the sooner you accept that the easier it will be to accept that having a weak leader is a death sentence for a country not completely surrounded by water (see England and US).
 
2021-09-13 12:43:30 PM  
It's a shame these despotic rulers aren't better at their jobs. If they were competent and helped their citizens then they wouldn't need to fraudulently steal elections.

I guess being a good ruler isn't fun enough or something.
 
2021-09-13 12:43:59 PM  

ColonelCathcart: Fake News, comrades. United Russia will win 68.7% of the vote.


For the seventh election in a row!  They are quite consistent!
 
2021-09-13 12:44:39 PM  
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2021-09-13 12:45:47 PM  

ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.

The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.


If you had wished to extol the value of Russia then you should have started with Mendeleev, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Pavlov, etc.

You began with war and forgot peace.
 
2021-09-13 12:48:44 PM  

casual disregard: ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.

The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.

If you had wished to extol the value of Russia then you should have started with Mendeleev, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Pavlov, etc.

You began with war and forgot peace.


Peace is impossible without war or unassailable strength.
 
2021-09-13 12:53:34 PM  

ColonelCathcart: casual disregard: ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.

The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.

If you had wished to extol the value of Russia then you should have started with Mendeleev, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Pavlov, etc.

You began with war and forgot peace.

Peace is impossible without war or unassailable strength.


I thought you would say that. It's untrue. It's unnecessary.

You can keep worshipping Napoleonic ideals if you like.

Don't drag us all to hell in your pursuit of a foolish concept.
 
2021-09-13 12:54:28 PM  
That poster looks like a 15 minute throw-together. come ON Russia, you have a legacy of amazing graphic design.

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2021-09-13 12:57:53 PM  

casual disregard: ColonelCathcart: casual disregard: ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.

The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.

If you had wished to extol the value of Russia then you should have started with Mendeleev, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Pavlov, etc.

You began with war and forgot peace.

Peace is impossible without war or unassailable strength.

I thought you would say that. It's untrue. It's unnecessary.

You can keep worshipping Napoleonic ideals if you like.

Don't drag us all to hell in your pursuit of a foolish concept.


Pax Romana, Mongolica, and Americana were built on the backbone of strength. I would argue that, were China given the chance they would re-impose Pax Mongolica on Central Asia.

The Cold War was, by historical standards, very peaceful because of unassailable strength - MAD.

All major wars were because one side believed it could prevail over equal foes, or because of relationships that dragged in neighbors.
 
2021-09-13 12:59:41 PM  
Why worry with a ballot that looks like this:

- I vote for glorious leader!
- I've always wanted to be a slave laborer in Murmansk
 
2021-09-13 1:09:52 PM  
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2021-09-13 1:17:42 PM  

lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Unlikely. Russians have a deep-seated desire to live with a boot on the back of their necks.

Russians have the deep seated desire to make sure a boot is on the necks of everyone so as to keep a lid on shiat and outsiders from ripping the country apart.

See weak versus strong rulers and how well it worked for the average Joe and the country as a whole.

Citation: Tatar Yoke (caused/enabled by East Slavic perpetual civil war), Time Of Troubles, Peter III, Nicholas II, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorby and Yeltsin

versus

Rurik, Ivan Grozny, the various "Greats" (Peter, Catherine), Elizabeth and basically all the Women, Alexanders I and III, Stalin (see WW2), and of course Putin.

Russians will only have a good life once Russia as a country ain't a thing anymore. Once that happens, real peace could finally happen in eastern europe.

The times that "Russia wasn't a thing" or not defending against conquerors have been terrible for Europe.

Tatar Yoke. Ottoman Conquests. Napoleon. Hitler. The interwar years in Europe.

Its 2021. The world has evolved. Russia has always been a shiat influence on the world. Once its gone, the world will be a better place. Same with China. Hell even the US should be broken up.

Break up the US, China and Russia and the world will be better.


Human beings are pretty much the same as they were in the 1900's.

There are still bad guys around who'd try to take over the world if they were able.

The reason the planet has enjoyed (relative) peace and prosperity since 1945 is mostly due to one thing:  the power and influence of the US.

Go ahead and create a vacuum where that power and influence exists and enjoy the shiat show watching it fill up.
 
2021-09-13 1:41:53 PM  
 
2021-09-13 2:10:16 PM  

lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise:
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Unlikely.  Its 2021. The world has evolved. Russia has always been a shiat influence on the world. Once its gone, the world will be a better place. Same with China. Hell even the US should be broken up.

Break up the US, China and Russia and the world will be better.


The Baltic states are doing fine.  Poland is in the EU and presumably recovering (with internal issues).  Ukraine is, well, still independent (most of it).  Only Belarus is under control of Putin.  How much more should Russia be broken up?  The Russian empire is down to Belarus and the Crimea.  The rest of it is a backwater power propped up by oil and nukes.  Unless you can take away the nukes and oil, Russia's influence will remain.

The last time the US tried to break up, it was to maintain race based slavery.  Is that what you want?  Unchecked Gilead?

Not sure how to break up China, but economically the cold war break between Taiwan and China is pretty significant.  Are there large enough regions of non-Han China that could make a country?  Would it be more viable and make more sense than Yugoslavia?
 
2021-09-13 2:15:12 PM  

lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: Belt and Road. Islamic Extremism on the March. Iran meddling in the gulf since BC. Egypt, Turkey, Iran, and Saudi meddling in the "Fertile Crescent" France all over (francophone) Africa. China all over Africa and South America. India and Pakistan (since forever).

The world could have been fixed if the US had been willing to nuke Moscow back in 1945.


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And people wonder why I have the opinions I do about the Pol Tab.
 
2021-09-13 2:27:23 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: The last time the US tried to break up, it was to maintain race based slavery.  Is that what you want?  Unchecked Gilead?


I mean, kind of. Biden-voting counties represented almost 3/4ths of US GDP. I'm fine with the rest of the country leaving and turning into a backwards theocracy after an appropriate period of free travel and immigration assistance to allow anyone who wants out to get out. If the hillbillies want to live under the Western Taliban, who am I to tell them that it's a bad idea?

Not sure how to break up China, but economically the cold war break between Taiwan and China is pretty significant.  Are there large enough regions of non-Han China that could make a country?  Would it be more viable and make more sense than Yugoslavia?

Breaking up China would probably be the easiest part of the whole deal. Their national identity is still not nearly as cohesive or baked in as a lot of older nations, with many of the outlying provinces having very distinct cultures and norms, and a significant split between the north and south.

Breaking up Russia would be the hardest part, honestly, because something like 60% of the population lives in just the Moscow and St. Petersburg areas. I guess you could split those two cities are, and St. Petersburgers will cheer at finally being unyoked form those backwards provincials in Moscow, but otherwise there's no way to chop it up into functional nations that in any way dilute its power.
 
2021-09-13 2:35:37 PM  

Clutch2013: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: Belt and Road. Islamic Extremism on the March. Iran meddling in the gulf since BC. Egypt, Turkey, Iran, and Saudi meddling in the "Fertile Crescent" France all over (francophone) Africa. China all over Africa and South America. India and Pakistan (since forever).

The world could have been fixed if the US had been willing to nuke Moscow back in 1945.

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And people wonder why I have the opinions I do about the Pol Tab.


lolMao and a certain drunkard ambassador love nuking them some Russians and Chinese untermensch.
 
2021-09-13 4:39:33 PM  

ColonelCathcart: Clutch2013: lolmao500: ColonelCathcart: Belt and Road. Islamic Extremism on the March. Iran meddling in the gulf since BC. Egypt, Turkey, Iran, and Saudi meddling in the "Fertile Crescent" France all over (francophone) Africa. China all over Africa and South America. India and Pakistan (since forever).

The world could have been fixed if the US had been willing to nuke Moscow back in 1945.

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And people wonder why I have the opinions I do about the Pol Tab.

lolMao and a certain drunkard ambassador love nuking them some Russians and Chinese untermensch.


I just want to WEAPONIZE THE CONFUSION BONERS, it's good that you're not concerned about me.
 
2021-09-13 6:53:26 PM  

Lusiphur: Breaking up China would probably be the easiest part of the whole deal. Their national identity is still not nearly as cohesive or baked in as a lot of older nations, with many of the outlying provinces having very distinct cultures and norms, and a significant split between the north and south.

Breaking up Russia would be the hardest part, honestly, because something like 60% of the population lives in just the Moscow and St. Petersburg areas. I guess you could split those two cities are, and St. Petersburgers will cheer at finally being unyoked form those backwards provincials in Moscow, but otherwise there's no way to chop it up into functional nations that in any way dilute its power.


How on earth would breaking China up be "easy?" They're 90+% Han Chinese. Sure, one could hypothetically split off the sprawling, barely-populated non-Han regions, but that doesn't meaningfully change Han power.

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2021-09-13 6:56:41 PM  

BigNumber12: Lusiphur: Breaking up China would probably be the easiest part of the whole deal. Their national identity is still not nearly as cohesive or baked in as a lot of older nations, with many of the outlying provinces having very distinct cultures and norms, and a significant split between the north and south.

Breaking up Russia would be the hardest part, honestly, because something like 60% of the population lives in just the Moscow and St. Petersburg areas. I guess you could split those two cities are, and St. Petersburgers will cheer at finally being unyoked form those backwards provincials in Moscow, but otherwise there's no way to chop it up into functional nations that in any way dilute its power.

How on earth would breaking China up be "easy?" They're 90+% Han Chinese. Sure, one could hypothetically split off the sprawling, barely-populated non-Han regions, but that doesn't meaningfully change Han power.

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You can break China up 28 ways till Sunday. From the "warring states" to whatever the fark was going on on the eve of WW2:

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2021-09-13 7:15:19 PM  
ColonelCathcart:

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2021-09-13 8:15:44 PM  

BigNumber12: ColonelCathcart:

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You know what image I used though, as an astute student of military history.

A unified China is as common as a civil war China throughout history.
 
2021-09-13 11:24:08 PM  
Believe it or not, North Korea is more politically stable than Russia.

In NK, all the people propping up the Un family are people's who's jobs and lives depend on that regime lasting forever.  They know that without Un the resulting revolution would lead to most, if not all, of them being killed.  Thus Kim's keys to power have a vested interest in him living a long, long time.

In Russia, however, all the oligarchs propping up Putin are just waiting for the moment that he shows enough weakness to take him out and claim the throne for themselves.  His own keys to power all want him dead and the only thing that's kept him alive this long has been his ability to play them plotting against each other more than himself.
 
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